VFC M249 Thread

[Nick G]

Just had a play in the garden with .30's. Looks like they are indeed the way to go. Still some adjustment left in the hop too. 

 

[Spartan09]

What weight BB's are we all using ?  Did a bit of experimenting with the hop yesterday in a mate's orchard. Hop fully on sent .25's heading for the moon , so plenty of ability to handle heavier BB's. I'm thinking of switching to .28's next game as a compromise between weight and cost. The .30's that I generally run in all my GBBR's and pistols will start getting expensive in the 249 although I could be tempted to try 'em .

Currently using .28s, but will probably try switching to .30 or .32 when they run out.

I also load my mags to give 5 tracer BBs to every 20 normal BBs, loading each mag to the 175 mark.  Hoping someone can make a 3d printed adapter to fit on a my G&G speed loader, as the supplies speedloader is a pain to use, and the adapter won't fit without a lot of messing about.

 

[Nick G]

Like the mix with the tracers, very cool ! Oddly I find the loader ok to use, but wouldn't want to try to reload with it in a game . An adapter for a more compact loader would be good.

 

[Spartan09]

Oh yeah,  it's fine to use in the safe zone on a table,  but out on the field between games,  it's a pain...   so an adapter is definately needed

 

[1st commando]

I actually only load to either 100 or 120 as I don't think the mags will be as reliable filled to 175 given that VFC refer to them as 100 round mags with only a side note saying "they can be made to fit 175 with a mechanical loader"

 

[Nick G]

I actually only load to either 100 or 120 as I don't think the mags will be as reliable filled to 175 given that VFC refer to them as 100 round mags with only a side note saying "they can be made to fit 175 with a mechanical loader"

120 is probably the sweet spot tbh, although I dont have any issues getting 160 in with the supplied loader. But putting less stress on the spring can't be a bad thing.

 

[Hatchet]

This video might be worth a watch if you haven't already seen it, covering some of the potential weaknesses/upgrade options (easy HPA and box mag conversion as well as hop mods).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxwj6QbtjU4

 

[Nick G]

That's a handy video. well spotted 

 

[Spartan09]

This video might be worth a watch if you haven't already seen it, covering some of the potential weaknesses/upgrade options (easy HPA and box mag conversion as well as hop mods).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxwj6QbtjU4

damn, beat me to it..

I saw this video last night, but didn't get round to posting it here.

I will probably only do the nozzle spring mod to my one, as improved accuracy is never a bad thing, and i may also add the washers in the bolt carrier. i definitely wont be HPAing my one though, nor will i be doing the AEG box mag conversion.

still need to get out to a site and set up the adjustable nozzle valve i fitted last month (only been to one game since then and it was a CQB site, so i dont think an M249 would be very welcome there XD)

 

[Nick G]

I will probably only do the nozzle spring mod to my one, as improved accuracy is never a bad thing, and i may also add the washers in the bolt carrier. i definitely wont be HPAing my one though, nor will i be doing the AEG box mag conversion.

 

I'm thinking the same, I would considder hpa, but the bottle would have to fit in a box mag, Cant be doing with the whole ghostbusters look.

 

[Spartan09]

I'm thinking the same, I would considder hpa, but the bottle would have to fit in a box mag, Cant be doing with the whole ghostbusters look.

agreed.

though having said that i do have an HPA rifle (Tippmann M4V2) but having snagged airlines so many times, among other issues, i am in no rush to add any more HPA guns to my armoury any time soon

 

[Nick G]

God these things are so much fun to game ! Ran mine today , mags filled to 120 using .30's . Despite it being 'chilly' this morning , it had no issues at all . Got some great kills with it, funniest thing though was watching players run away when you open up ? One chap came and found me after the game and sain 'bloody hell that thing sounds terifying' The para stock was a definite improvement in the woods  running it short .

Love this beast ! 

 

[Spartan09]

Ran mine today too.   Got the adjustable valve sorted and it is now firing 1.1j on .28 and VORSK V8 gas (chronoed 0.7j this morning when it was cold, rechronoed at lunch when it warmed up.)

Definately need to get some small hand warmers to put in with the tank to help keep it warmer.

I did have a few issues with mine today.

First I had my red dot shot out 10 mins into the first game. Then throughout the day I found the gas tank connector kept popping out the reciever as I was firing.  I was able to pop it back in, but it was really annoying

I also broke one of the screws in the clamp for the gas tank (easily fixable)

 On the plus side though, I got a lot of good kills with it.  I managed to take out several enemy players as top gunner on a snatch land rover as it picked its way across the land from our respawn point to one of the objectives on the far side of the land (a bumpy ride, and not very easy to get a decent aim with the fixed stock...  I definately need the Para stock)

Later I also managed to lay ambush to a small enemy patrol. I heard their voices, so I ducked into a hedgerow to wait for them to approach.  When they moved into view, I was able to get all four members of the patrol in one long burst.

I had several people complimenting the smoke generator suppressor I have fitted,  and had one of the members of the patrol that I ambushed speak to me after the game saying he suspected it was me who got them due to the unique sound of the gun firing and admitted to spending the rest of the game hoping to hunt me down and shoot me with his MOSCART launcher.  We had a good laugh, shook hands and I allowed him to have a try with the gun before I unloaded it.

 

[Nick G]

First I had my red dot shot out 10 mins into the first game. Then throughout the day I found the gas tank connector kept popping out the reciever as I was firing.  I was able to pop it back in, but it was really annoying

Exactly what mine has done from day 1, The stanag is very secure , but the box mag connector has always popped out. I've dealt with it by drilling and tapping a hole under the feed plate for an M3 bolt. This presses down on the mag catch and secures it. Not had the issue since. Not having the feed tray bolted down hasn't caused any issues.

 

[1st commando]

What often causes the adapter to come loose is the movement of the fake belt catching on the magazine release as it rattles . I

I sorted this by A using inert rounds with only the top VFC one with the hole in it and B by making sure there is plenty of slack above the mag catch so that the belt doesn't pull taught when it's being moved by the shaker

 

[Nick G]

What often causes the adapter to come loose is the movement of the fake belt catching on the magazine release as it rattles . I

I sorted this by A using inert rounds with only the top VFC one with the hole in it and B by making sure there is plenty of slack above the mag catch so that the belt doesn't pull taught when it's being moved by the shaker

Mine came loose even without the fake rounds . But I suspect the recoil shakes the catch just enough to release it. A stronger spring on the catch may solve the issue.

 

[Nick G]

Spent a while fettling the fit of the box mag today. Shortened the air line more and filed out a slot for it on the top of the mag. Nicer fit and the bullet belt is much easier to fit now too. Also removed one round from the belt as it was a bit too long. Mine is made up of deac rounds with the top one from the vfc belt so it fits the 'wiggler' 

 

[1st commando]

Spent a while fettling the fit of the box mag today. Shortened the air line more and filed out a slot for it on the top of the mag. Nicer fit and the bullet belt is much easier to fit now too. Also removed one round from the belt as it was a bit too long. Mine is made up of deac rounds with the top one from the vfc belt so it fits the 'wiggler' 

I removed about an inch of tube and cut the space for it in my real 200 rnd bag too . However I fitted a longer belt as it sits in place better and doesn't fall out when elevated

 

[Nick G]

I removed about an inch of tube and cut the space for it in my real 200 rnd bag too . However I fitted a longer belt as it sits in place better and doesn't fall out when elevated

Yep, my belt is still longer than the VFC one by a roundor two.

She'll be getting another outing on Sunday ?

 

[Spartan09]

i was debating fitting a real bullet belt, but im worried that its extra weight may cause further issues with the box mag gas connector popping out, or break the "wiggler"

Exactly what mine has done from day 1, The stanag is very secure , but the box mag connector has always popped out. I've dealt with it by drilling and tapping a hole under the feed plate for an M3 bolt. This presses down on the mag catch and secures it. Not had the issue since. Not having the feed tray bolted down hasn't caused any issues.

do you have pics of this mod? i may need to do the same to mine, but i am also reluctant to do anything too invasive

She'll be getting another outing on Sunday ?

where abouts are you playing?