VFC H&K P7M13 GBB

[Ronin0033]

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Just seen this pop up on Twitter, VFC P7M13 GBB!
I’ve always had a hankering for one of these since I had the old TM springer version. Was never lucky enough to get a MGC version either.

The Hop is based on the PPK one apparently.

Please please please don’t be shite

 

[EvilMonkee]

Sorry all VFC pistols are shite.

 

[Lyndication]

Mine have been pretty solid so far

 

[hitmanNo2]

There are some decent VFC pistols but VFC did a lot of damage to their reputation releasing absolute crap a while ago. And the occasional recent releases have their problems but some people are just stuck in the past with their opinion.

 

[BigStew]

Their Glocks seem to be descent but yeah a lot of their other pistol ranges are sub par at best.

 

[DerDer]

Perfect for that Hans Gruber loadout.

 

[Anonymoose]

There are some decent VFC pistols but VFC did a lot of damage to their reputation releasing absolute crap a while ago. And the occasional recent releases have their problems but some people are just stuck in the past with their opinion.

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Which were bad? I have a load of VFC Glocks and aside from the 42 they're all good.

 

[Lyndication]

I think some people had poor impressions of the PPQ and PDP based on a couple of Youtubers.

Both of those are quite good after some maintenance.

 

[Anonymoose]

I think some people had poor impressions of the PPQ and PDP based on a couple of Youtubers.

Both of those are quite good after some maintenance.

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I see. I only have VFC Glocks and a Strike SMP. All the Glocks are great except the 42 which is a bit.. meh. I want to like it but it's just not great.

My others are great though, and i often run them on CO2. My 18 and 45 take abuse and are great.

 

[EvilMonkee]

P320, PPQ, VP9, PPS, M17 are all hot garbage OOB

 

[Cannonfodder]

Both of those are quite good after some maintenance.

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The trouble is that VFC/Umarex pistols are priced towards the higher end of the market. Personally at those prices I'd want them to not need any maintenance straight out of the box

 

[rj1986]

Perfect for that Hans Gruber loadout.

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"You always were an asshole, Gorman"

 

[ButcherBill]

Perfect for that Hans Gruber loadout.

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i'm ashamed I had to google that, I only watched Die Hard last week... I'm tired.

 

[Lyndication]

The trouble is that VFC/Umarex pistols are priced towards the higher end of the market. Personally at those prices I'd want them to not need any maintenance straight out of the box

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Everything needs maintenance out of the box

 

[BigStew]

Everything needs maintenance out of the box

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You don't need to mod a TM pistol to work out the box.

 

[Cannonfodder]

Everything needs maintenance out of the box

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Not in my experience. The majority of my guns are completely stock and those which do have upgrades were done as a matter of want rather than needing to do them

 

[Lyndication]

I think you're both confusing modification, with maintenance.

I was deep in a flu so probably my fault for not being clear. I meant that you just field strip, clean the factory grease off, relube with Superlube, then reassemble.

Guns run much better afterwards, yes including my TMs.

 

[BigStew]

Fair enough but multiple VFC models require modification to work and still will never be good guns. For the money they charge they should be better performing guns than TM (if they were officially exported TM would be significantly cheaper than VFC).

 

[Lyndication]

Tbh I import everything so it's much cheaper. You save a lot by buying the unbranded versions, since you're mostly paying the Umarex tax for brand licenses there.