This is wild they allowed mags in pistols if holsterd this was bound to happen

[Colin Allen]

Hopefully he will be ok - but 2ft distance with normal pistol power is bad news. Hopefully he is very lucky. The site should be liable for this in some way? I have never heard of a site allowing any kind of mags in RIFS in safezone. I think the post has been taken down now too or was it in a private group?

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It was taken down.

 

[Tommikka]

BuT tEh DiScLaImEr......

Which I suspect will do fuck all if its ever trialled especially given the (spicy) test case a few decades back where it transpired that consenting to having ones testicles nailed to a wooden board does not actually prevent the person doing the nailing from being up in front of a judge.

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That’s quite a few decades back, either you’re as old as me or you have niche interests to keep an eye on the reievant case history …. If so you I can refer you to my eBay

Disclaimers are not worth the paper they are written on or the pixels they use; event organisers are still liable for injuries or accidents that occur if they have not taken adequate precautions to prevent them.

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One thing a bad disclaimer can do is document what they thought of but failed to act upon and aid a negligence claim

 

[Tommikka]

Back to the serious topic in hand …. This should make everyone rethink safety

Anything brought out of the game zone must be “made safe”
If you can pull it out of a holster then it is not safe, even if still in the holster it is not safe if the barrel is not blocked

Battery disconnection is an unnecessary excessive step - unless it’s impossible to make safe otherwise

Barrel condoms are great - if fitted securely, and if the pistol is holstered then that adds the issue of being able to holster with it already fitted or ending up with the condom over the holster and having to be removed to pull out of the holster

Before exit, lose the magazine and prove it’s clear by shooting off
Then ideally still cover the barrel


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I hate the idea of glasses style eye protection, but the real benefit here is they can be kept on

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As mentioned above paintball sites have gun racks before you exit the game zone - but that is only really practical for rental players. Own gunners don’t want to leave their gear out for any idiot to fiddle with
Back in the day when at a rental day we would put ours into the Marshalls shed. But for own gunners there must be a ‘make safe’ process, such as safety on/power off/ASA purge etc - and all accompanied by a barrel condom

 

[Bwian_eh?]

Back to the serious topic in hand …. This should make everyone rethink safety

Anything brought out of the game zone must be “made safe”
If you can pull it out of a holster then it is not safe, even if still in the holster it is not safe if the barrel is not blocked

Battery disconnection is an unnecessary excessive step - unless it’s impossible to make safe otherwise

Barrel condoms are great - if fitted securely, and if the pistol is holstered then that adds the issue of being able to holster with it already fitted or ending up with the condom over the holster and having to be removed to pull out of the holster

Before exit, lose the magazine and prove it’s clear by shooting off
Then ideally still cover the barrel


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I hate the idea of glasses style eye protection, but the real benefit here is they can be kept on

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As mentioned above paintball sites have gun racks before you exit the game zone - but that is only really practical for rental players. Own gunners don’t want to leave their gear out for any idiot to fiddle with
Back in the day when at a rental day we would put ours into the Marshalls shed. But for own gunners there must be a ‘make safe’ process, such as safety on/power off/ASA purge etc - and all accompanied by a barrel condom

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A rack in the safe zone behind some perspex would do, they're visible but people aren't fucking with them.
You will not convince me that de energising stuff isn't the best way to sort this.