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The 'What have you just bought' Thread

A visual point of reference means fuck all of its not pointing where it’s meant to be…but you must be right I’m so old and your so operator. 
 

Go back to your teenage bitching about the MWS system being crap cause you broke it.
 


Who shit in your cereal today?

  • But it IS pointed to where it needs to be.......... "bro". I love how you mentioned "Operator" after the "tac laser comment" kinda makes it seem like we're in the same age demographic. I see what you did there lol.
  • So that's why you came at me so hostile just now... The MWS system is crap? When did I ever say that..."bro". Didn't I also state what was causing the problem and a solution too. Did you miss those or are you too much of a geriatric dunce to interpret that info correctly?



There's nothing more repulsive than some old, jamoke trying to be edgy on the internet infront of his virtual pals. Cut that shit out and chill the fuck out too.

 
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A visual point of reference means fuck all if its not pointing where it’s meant to be…but you must be right because I’m so old and your so operator.


for lasers you do have a point, but i'd disagree that irons/dots/reticles need to be exactly on, as long as it's a repeatable point of reference (ie not moving relative to where the rounds are going) you can kentucky windage your way into getting good hits.

 
for lasers you do have a point, but i'd disagree that irons/dots/reticles need to be exactly on, as long as it's a repeatable point of reference (ie not moving relative to where the rounds are going) you can kentucky windage your way into getting good hits.


But at that point, why wouldn't you just crank the turrets so that point of reference is zero'd? Regarding holding zero, a lot of the clone shite out there struggles with it on GBBRs thus rendering the 'repeatable' part in the point of reference moot. Which is why the question marks around not caring about holding zero on something that was specifically put on a RIF for aiming with are coming from.

 
Friends and myself used irons for 3+ years without an issue, both in CQB and large open areas. Only reason we really got optics was to help in the really dark areas of our local cqb. We've done some  home made 'drills' (in quotes because they were more for cheap fun than to get more opscherater) with one very similar to the presidente one (going from google description) and didn't really have any issues with hitting a5 targets. But then I'll always advocate iron sights because I think they look very cool indeed 

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But at that point, why wouldn't you just crank the turrets so that point of reference is zero'd? 


depends on the setup, setting windage on an ak for example, or for the mini rmr style dots you need a screwdriver to adjust.

not saying you shouldn't do it if you have the chance, just that it's not the end of the world if you don't have the time to get it properly dialed in.

Regarding holding zero, a lot of the clone shite out there struggles with it on GBBRs thus rendering the 'repeatable' part in the point of reference moot.


yes, this is a valid point, hence why i caveated the "repeatable" part :P

 
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Friends and myself used irons for 3+ years without an issue, both in CQB and large open areas. Only reason we really got optics was to help in the really dark areas of our local cqb. We've done some  home made 'drills' (in quotes because they were more for cheap fun than to get more opscherater) with one very similar to the presidente one (going from google description) and didn't really have any issues with hitting a5 targets. But then I'll always advocate iron sights because I think they look very cool indeed 

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If you're talking AEG then even a monkey could competently run a AEG and fire 200 shots to hit a target. those are some good odds.

I'd have absolutely no problem running an AEG with no attachments since I'd have the endless stream of bbs to use as a point of reference no different from a laser.

But at that point, why wouldn't you just crank the turrets so that point of reference is zero'd? Regarding holding zero, a lot of the clone shite out there struggles with it on GBBRs thus rendering the 'repeatable' part in the point of reference moot. Which is why the question marks around not caring about holding zero on something that was specifically put on a RIF for aiming with are coming from.
 Because one of the key emphasis is on speed. I do not even need to fully shoulder my weapon from any key positions, low, high ready, (on the move) when using that as a point of reference.

 
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If you're talking AEG than even a monkey could competently run a AEG and fire 200 shots to hit a target. those are some good odds.

I'd have absolutely no problem running an AEG with no attachments since I'd have the endless stream of bbs to use as a point of reference no different from a laser.
If we fired streams of bb's in the garden I wouldnt be alive to type this to you :P  

 
If we fired streams of bb's in the garden I wouldnt be alive to type this to you :P  


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There's nothing more repulsive than some old, jamoke trying to be edgy on the internet infront of his virtual pals.


I'd say some teenager holster-juggling his Glock in front of his mum's mirror for hours on end might give it a close run.

 
I'd say some teenager holster-juggling his Glock in front of his mum's mirror for hours on end might give it a close run.


Teens are expected to behave like wazzocks. There's no excuse for someone over 40 years old.

 
I'd say some teenager holster-juggling his Glock in front of his mum's mirror for hours on end might give it a close run.
You.... you were watching??

Anyway, my tuppenys worth is as follows; I ran mainly iron sights for years with the occasional 'investment' in chinesium aimpoint or eotech clones which I never got on with. Iron sights are fine for short to mid range, certainly when firing streams of BB's, but even with semi auto on a gbbr.

However, since picking up a legit XPS-2 for a great price, I'd never go back to irons, even for toys as fundamentally inaccurate as our bb guns, a good optic definitely makes a difference.

It's just a question of how much one is prepared to spend for that subjective improvement.

 
You.... you were watching??


Kid Glock there?  No, I was barely aware of his existence, and now he's on the "shush" list.  Lucky guess, I guess.

However, since picking up a legit XPS-2 for a great price, I'd never go back to irons, even for toys as fundamentally inaccurate as our bb guns, a good optic definitely makes a difference.

It's just a question of how much one is prepared to spend for that subjective improvement.


Truth to tell, I actually agree.  I run irons (or foam) on sniper sidearms and for LARPing, but reticules all the way if I actually want to hit something.  Even in CQB I run a cheap reflex on my MP5K.

Just not... this cheap.



I saw those come up on "cheapest first" (it's a cultural imperative) and was wondering if they really were what they looked like: a cross painted on a bit of perspex.  I do like that they've gone to the bother of faking a battery compartment and laser tail end on it.

It occurs that you could make something exactly as useful from a sight protector and a felt tip pen. :D

 
Kid Glock there?  No, I was barely aware of his existence, and now he's on the "shush" list.  Lucky guess, I guess.

Truth to tell, I actually agree.  I run irons (or foam) on sniper sidearms and for LARPing, but reticules all the way if I actually want to hit something.  Even in CQB I run a cheap reflex on my MP5K.

Just not... this cheap.

I saw those come up on "cheapest first" (it's a cultural imperative) and was wondering if they really were what they looked like: a cross painted on a bit of perspex.  I do like that they've gone to the bother of faking a battery compartment and laser tail end on it.

It occurs that you could make something exactly as useful from a sight protector and a felt tip pen. :D
I think this might be one that still lights up, obviously not that that'll make it any less useless

 
It certainly does light up.  Not necessarily on the POI though...

I'll fit it to something and see how far out it is at some point.  

 
I practice a number of drills in my house with and without irons such as "EL PRESIDENTE" and I have missed torso sized targets from 10 yards. In fact,  often. Shooting whilst moving and transitioning from draw, low ready or high ready is not easy without a visual guide. Try
Whaaaaaat?

 
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