THE TM MWS thread

[Madhouse]

Took delivery of my MK18 today so am looking for accessories and mags.

MWS mags seem to a rare thing nowadays, what’s the hive’s thoughts on the 46 round G&P mags? Or should I just be patient and wait for the TM ones.

Also (and more generally) anyone used a red dot / flip-to-side magnifier combo? Only used dots so far but thinking of expanding my horizons. 

 

[Wavey_Gravey]

The G&P GMAGS are ok but stock TM or Guns modify PMAGs are top tier.

Surprised you can find the G&P ones to be honest, where have you seen those?

 

[Madhouse]

Fire Support have 40 of them.

Might hold fire for some TM ones as I’ve got 4 already and if I have different types it might annoy me.

Next MWS noob question … the stock tube is milspec right? Gonna get a Magpul CTR for it.

 

[Shizbazki]

Next MWS noob question … the stock tube is milspec right? Gonna get a Magpul CTR for it.

Yes they are MilSpec

 

[PhilT]

Fire Support have 40 of them.

Might hold fire for some TM ones as I’ve got 4 already and if I have different types it might annoy me.

Next MWS noob question … the stock tube is milspec right? Gonna get a Magpul CTR for it.

CTR fits lovely! 

 

[zizivert]

Yes they are MilSpec

Sorry but no. Most of the time you can install a milspec stock but the size of the buffer tube is specific. Not milspec/civilian size. It depend of the stock you want but an adjustement with tape could be necessary.

Necessary in my case with TM buffer tube and the Magpul MOE carbine stock.

 

[Frank Castle]

Sorry if this has been covered but what's the inner barrel length of the M4A1? Is it 370?

 

[PhilT]

Sorry if this has been covered but what's the inner barrel length of the M4A1? Is it 370?

I believe the stock length is 250mm. 

 

[Impulse]

Yeah, but 250mm won't go all the way through on the regular M4A1. TM don't put barrels longer than 250mm in their GBBRs because Japanese laws and joule creep. Not sure how long you'd need to go all the way through the outer barrel on a M4A1 carbine as I don't have one to measure. In the CQBR the 250mm goes almost to the end of the outer barrel.

 

[PhilT]

Yeah, but 250mm won't go all the way through on the regular M4A1. TM don't put barrels longer than 250mm in their GBBRs because Japanese laws and joule creep. Not sure how long you'd need to go all the way through the outer barrel on a M4A1 carbine as I don't have one to measure. In the CQBR the 250mm goes almost to the end of the outer barrel.

I’ve put a 310mm in mine and that fits but not sure what length is left. 

 

[Madhouse]

oops

 

[Frank Castle]

I’ve put a 310mm in mine and that fits but not sure what length is left. 

Interesting, your in the UK too aren't you. What fps are you getting with that barrel in mate, are you sticking to under 350fps or have you gone for a DMR build?

 

[Impulse]

Interesting, your in the UK too aren't you. What fps are you getting with that barrel in mate, are you sticking to under 350fps or have you gone for a DMR build?

I have a 510mm in my mk12 build. Needs an NPAS to keep it under 1.14J, though I have also semi-locked it and run it as a DMR if I like the site's DMR rules (tends to be if it's 1.88J limit). During the summer I still need the NPAS to keep it under 1.88J though as I think it goes to about 2.4J with the NPAS fully open on a warm summer's day on a .4

 

[PhilT]

Interesting, your in the UK too aren't you. What fps are you getting with that barrel in mate, are you sticking to under 350fps or have you gone for a DMR build?

Yes UK. No my DMR has a 410 inner in it and I do have a spare 370 if I need to drop fps in the warmer months. 
 

The M4 with the 310mm inner barrel + a few other minor mods is clocking around 330-340 fps during the winter on Nuprol 3.0 and black. 
 

My MWS DMR build with 410mm inner barrel and ice pick is doing 410-420 fps. 
 

all above based on 0.2g bb. 

I have a 510mm in my mk12 build. Needs an NPAS to keep it under 1.14J, though I have also semi-locked it and run it as a DMR if I like the site's DMR rules (tends to be if it's 1.88J limit). During the summer I still need the NPAS to keep it under 1.88J though as I think it goes to about 2.4J with the NPAS fully open on a warm summer's day on a .4

What range are you getting with that?
 

with my 410mm inner and ice pick I’m getting 60m accurate 0.36 (haven’t got a longer range to test on on yet). But for some reason I get the odd bb fly off. Annoying that really. Using a 60deg MR HOP, stock Hop Unit and SixG nub. 

 

[Madhouse]

MK18 arrived last week and I love it already!

NPAS fitted over the weekend and she's reliably doing around 335fps on 0.2s at room temperature, which is a shade over 1J and about where I want it to be. Was surprised how easy it was to fit, what took the time was adjusting it to get the power I wanted - was it clockwise or anti-clockwise to reduce the power? most of the time I did the opposite of what I wanted ? 

Ordered mags from Japan on Friday, just had a notification they'll be delivered on Thursday, if that happens I'll be massively impressed!

 

[Impulse]

What range are you getting with that?
 

with my 410mm inner and ice pick I’m getting 60m accurate 0.36 (haven’t got a longer range to test on on yet). But for some reason I get the odd bb fly off. Annoying that really. Using a 60deg MR HOP, stock Hop Unit and SixG nub. 

Similar results and I'm using a 50 degree MR hop and an omega nub in the stock hop unit. I'd say 60m is easy to get accurately at 1.88J on a .4 with mine, and I can fairly reliably hit 75m without having to angle the gun. It's not as consistently good as my HPA DMR, but it's more fun! I get the same thing though where the odd BB just seems to have a will of its own, but it's not TOO often. At 1.1J on a .32 I would say 50m accurately, 60m consistently.

 

[StoveCap]

Heyo, getting a DE MWS on the 23rd, Already got an extra MWS Stanag and Typ89 Stanag in the meanwhile, Just wanted to check that abbey Maintenance Gas is fine to leave in there and slowly purge / shoot out. I know that purging magazines too fast can damage them, so I was thinking of shooting but I dont know if shooting it out of the magazine would be any less or more damaging than just being careful and slowly purging them.
 

Also thinking of getting a  60 degree Flamingo bucking and M.H.N asap, and getting a replacement GM bcg when the DE nozzle breaks (I've heard its not great). Anything there sound like it wont work?

 

[zizivert]

Hi,

on my PTW i'm totally in love about my Orga magnus flat hop up. Do you have recommendation for the same systeme for my MWS with Guns Modify Hop Up Tensioner? Is the SP8 flat hop up good?

 

[Regamuffin]

Anyone got any tips of trying to remove a mws fire selector, stupidly went ahead removed the old one , started installing the angry gun ambi pushed the pin back so it would fit then realised the selector won’t move now and apprently you need to take the trigger box out to sintall the new pin, typical man , went straight in without metrications now can’t remove the fire selector

 

[itsme]

Hey guys,

I've been out of the loop for some time, was browsing the forums a bit but i see a lot of talk to the MWS discord. Can't seem to find an invite link though, could anyone share it?