THE TM MWS thread

[MAX DICKER]

I was looking at those handguards, it’s literally out of stock everywhere, or simply I’m not able to Google it somehow.

9.3” and FDE colour is what I need.

About the barrel nut, do you use an adapter to fit the thing to the MWS or is it just machined right to fit to the MWS? Is there a common name for MWS barrel nut?

https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/angrygun-mk16-m-lok-rail-93-inch---gen-2-version-desert-dirt-color

Angry Gun do one, I have the 13.5" version that's going on my upper build

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[werkzeug]

https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/angrygun-mk16-m-lok-rail-93-inch---gen-2-version-desert-dirt-color

Angry Gun do one, I have the 13.5" version that's going on my upper build

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I’ll be ordering one from HAO since Angry Gun is deemed to lack QC lately.

Will post a picture when it arrives ?.

 

[MAX DICKER]

Right, here's the deal, I *could* trawl through all 247 pages in this thread to hopefully find the info I need, but I figure I'll be lazy and just ask.

Basically,  I've built a DMR upper.

It has:

6.05mm x 410mm Orga inner

Angry gun complete cnc hop adjuster set

Angrygun hop chamber with unicorn bucking

Angry Gun high speed bolt carrier with mpa nozzle.

At home I chrono'd at 1.77 joules. However, it was failing to hop .30g BB's and had cycling issues. The bolt carrier seemed sluggish when cycling and would occasionally fail to cycle and end up venting the gas form the mag.

I have acquired a Laylax hop chamber and nine ball rubber and have ordered a flat hop tensioner.... am I on the right track here?

Just looking for general advice on how to get this upper working well. Cost of parts isn't an issue. To keep the power around the 1.8j mark and be able to hop 0.3g - 0.4g bb's and cycle smoothly.

Any advice would be much appreciated

 

[Davegolf]

Ditch Angry Gun parts

Use stock BCG or Mitch better quality.

Npas of sorts

Use 60d bucking

SixG Super Nub or

Laylax hop arm

You really want a HSB or similar to stop the back end of the gun eating itself running high power.

If you end up running a heavy bolt (which is pointless IMO) you will need a heavier recoil spring.

 

[quango2k]

Right, here's the deal, I *could* trawl through all 247 pages in this thread to hopefully find the info I need, but I figure I'll be lazy and just ask.

Basically,  I've built a DMR upper.

It has:

6.05mm x 410mm Orga inner

Angry gun complete cnc hop adjuster set

Angrygun hop chamber with unicorn bucking

Angry Gun high speed bolt carrier with mpa nozzle.

At home I chrono'd at 1.77 joules. However, it was failing to hop .30g BB's and had cycling issues. The bolt carrier seemed sluggish when cycling and would occasionally fail to cycle and end up venting the gas form the mag.

I have acquired a Laylax hop chamber and nine ball rubber and have ordered a flat hop tensioner.... am I on the right track here?

Just looking for general advice on how to get this upper working well. Cost of parts isn't an issue. To keep the power around the 1.8j mark and be able to hop 0.3g - 0.4g bb's and cycle smoothly.

Any advice would be much appreciated

Put it back to stock, get a supernub and an npas then leave it alone! 

You basically gave your mws cancer.

 

[MAX DICKER]

I still have my original upper which is all stock internally and works flawlessly. Hops perfectly for CQB which is what I mostly play. Just fancied building an extra upper to use as a DMR.

 

[Davegolf]

I totally get having a different upper for DMR role, save a lot of messing about.

But ultimately all that entails is;

Longer barrel for FPS (I’m surprised you didn’t get the Prommy 6.03).

Npas to control fps.

Harder bucking to suit fps.

Better nub.

Aesthetics.

 

[MAX DICKER]

I totally get having a different upper for DMR role, save a lot of messing about.

But ultimately all that entails is;

Longer barrel for FPS (I’m surprised you didn’t get the Prommy 6.03).

Npas to control fps.

Harder bucking to suit fps.

Better nub.

Aesthetics.

To be honest I've been playing 15 years and other than a high ROF jg G3sas in about 2012, I've never internally upgraded any of my RIF's.

I have a spare Marui bolt carrier... I'll look out for a Prometheus 6.03.

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[Davegolf]

The 6.05 will work, its just as a DMR maximising the FPS a 6.03 will be better.

 

[Bulldoger]

I was wandering: does anyone have some cool 3d models for mws system that i can print? Like basic dust cover or something? I just got my 3d printer and i am having a blast trying different attachments and such.

 

[blazin23]

So I spent a few hours yesterday dialing in my hop (got the Laylax hop arm, everything else stock) on my MTR-16. It was shooting .36s fine.

Then today at a skirmish in typical airsoft fashion it decided to start playing up - it looked and sounded like it was firing correctly, but only 1 in 5 shots would actually come out of the barrel. It seemed that about 4 or 5 bbs would get stuck in the barrel before they all rolled out.

I tried turning the hop off all the way - didn’t change anything. Tried putting it back on - again no difference.

Also tried some different gas (144a, green, red) and the issue persisted with them all.

Any idea what has gone wrong? The barrel is clear and the hop rubber looks intact 

 

[Davegolf]

Check nozzle for damage, check bucking is correctly installed, and not some retarded make.

Make sure the piston seal is lubricated.

 

[blazin23]

Nozzle looks fine, hop rubber is the stock TM one and looks in tact (no tearing or anything).

Any recommendation on what gun grease/lube to use? I need to get some anyway 

 

[alxndrhll]

Open to being wrong but 0.36s seems a bit heavy for that stock bucking? I dare say you're hop is cranked too high for the stock bucking to lift that weight, hence the blockages.

 

[blazin23]

With the Laylax hop arm (replaces the original nub with a solid surface) it has hopped .4s reasonably well at a previous skirmish. But I did try it with the hop all the way down and the issue persisted (plus it worked fine in this configuration previously).

Just annoying it was shooting the .36s like a laser yesterday at home and then today it has been troublesome

 

[Davegolf]

The stock bucking is fine whatever weight, i didn’t think the Laylax arm gave trouble but may be wrong.

TechT GunSav and Parker Hale Express gun oil.

Just another check - old swollen or generally duff BBs will give loads of jams.

The MWS is a fussy eater.

 

[SSPKali]

Mine had wound off the hop for some reason so I had to reset between games. Accuracy out beyond 30m was a bit lacking so I might have to check the barrel is clean and the hop rubber not torn or something daft like that.

Other than that I was hitting peoples hands as they gesticulated to their team mates ?
 

EDIT: cleaned barrel and still struggling to get sub 4” groups at 15m. Took out inner barrel, hop unit, inspected and reinstalled. Now sub 2” groups with Amoeba Precision 0.30g  (and even better with the Guarder 0.36g!)

meh

 

[GStevo80]

Cancel that, all good

 

[werkzeug]

Gonna buy a used TM MWS from the classifieds, not sure the right topic but might be good to ask the experienced ones here. I'm gonna buy the bundle with PayPal Buyer's Protection, should I be worried about any sort of scamming? Is it enough to do a good trade?

 

[Shamal]

Hi ?

Yeah paypal goods and services is best for buyer protection.

Have you looked at sellers reputation? Have they got good feedback?

Does the pictured item contain the sellers forum name and date?

Is the pictured item the actual item or a stock photo from a mag or online seller(you can generally tell)and this is the reason that the sellers forum name and date are included In pic.

Trust your judgment and ask seller questions and judge by their answers. You can tell a lot by how they respond.

Nothing is garenteed but with goods and services you have some protection.

Good luck( they are a pretty honest bunch on here)?

Regards