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THE TM MWS thread

So, today I took the MWS for a spin. I intended to use 3 RIFS today, the MWS, PTW and a NGRS. I ended up using the MWS for the majority of the day bar the last 1hr where the PTW came out for a spin. Needless to say, I had a lot of fun with the MWS and got some cracking shots... One thing though, one of my mags managed to get BB's stuck in them so they wouldn't feed. Has anyone else experienced this? I had to poke a think Allen key to dislodge the stuck BB's. The strange thing is that this happened twice to that one same mag!! Thoughts hive mind?

 
So, today I took the MWS for a spin. I intended to use 3 RIFS today, the MWS, PTW and a NGRS. I ended up using the MWS for the majority of the day bar the last 1hr where the PTW came out for a spin. Needless to say, I had a lot of fun with the MWS and got some cracking shots... One thing though, one of my mags managed to get BB's stuck in them so they wouldn't feed. Has anyone else experienced this? I had to poke a think Allen key to dislodge the stuck BB's. The strange thing is that this happened twice to that one same mag!! Thoughts hive mind?
If it’s the same mag, there is something in the bb channel snagging them or the follower, or it has a weakened spring

 
If it’s the same mag, there is something in the bb channel snagging them or the follower, or it has a weakened spring
Yeah possibly. It’s a newish mag though. Time to google how to take one of these mags apart and clean the spring channel. 

 
Taking that part of the mag apart is easy, just remover the two hex head screws from the base plate and that’s it. Be careful though there is a small plastic piece at the base plate end of the feed spring that likes to shoot it’s self into orbit if you are not careful.

while you have it apart check the bb follower for imperfections. I have had one mag with this problem and it had a small amount of extra plastic on the bb follower I had to carefully polish off.

Be aware putting the feed spring back in is a PITA. The aforementioned small plastic ‘plug’ seems desperate to ping across the room and get lost behind the sofa of embed it’s self in your eyeball. I found a bbq skewer helpful to feed the spring on to before trying to jam it back in the bb channel.

Have fun!!!!!

 
Taking that part of the mag apart is easy, just remover the two hex head screws from the base plate and that’s it. Be careful though there is a small plastic piece at the base plate end of the feed spring that likes to shoot it’s self into orbit if you are not careful.

while you have it apart check the bb follower for imperfections. I have had one mag with this problem and it had a small amount of extra plastic on the bb follower I had to carefully polish off.

Be aware putting the feed spring back in is a PITA. The aforementioned small plastic ‘plug’ seems desperate to ping across the room and get lost behind the sofa of embed it’s self in your eyeball. I found a bbq skewer helpful to feed the spring on to before trying to jam it back in the bb channel.

Have fun!!!!!
Cheers fella, I appreciate the instructions :)  

 
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I'm having a mare trying to find a replacement spring for the hop up adjustment wheel. All the usual outlets are out of stock and I'm getting desperate now. 

Does anyone know where I could pick one up, or perhaps have one themselves they'd be willing to sell me? View attachment 76517

 
Update on #maggate

So I found my dodgy magazine and tried to load bbs again using the Marui XL loader. Same thing happened. Some bbs got stuck. The Marui XL struggles to load the mags so I thought I’d just use the loading rod that comes with the MWS and voila. No sticking bbs. I mean what the actual fcuk! Maybe I hand technique is a little suspect? ?

Anyone else had problems with the Marui  XL loader? I’m thinking of taking the O ring out of the bottom of the loader and trying to load the bbs again. See if that works 

 
How new is the mag? I find the MWS mags all start off a bit stiff at first when speed loading.
 

The extra mechanical advantage of the loading rod really helps for new mags.

 
Well new as in only had 100 to 150 bbs in it if that. In fact, loading them all is a chore with the XL speed loader. I really have to push down on the plunger and the loading isn’t smooth in any of them to be honest. Maybe the rod way will help for a few more games. 

 
Anyone else had problems with the Marui  XL loader? I’m thinking of taking the O ring out of the bottom of the loader and trying to load the bbs again. See if that works 
Same problem here, there is an uneasy cracking from the XL loader itself and filling up my Prowin / SAA mags with bbs is everything but quick and effortless. I was a tad disappointed as the XL loader has a quite revered status in this part of the forum ( and not that cheap ). My conclusion was that it's perfect for OG mags while aftermarket springs are too heavy on it. Your report + an individual from the local field have me doubting on the XL. He had more luck with the small loaders from TM. 

 
Holy Jesus, just finished reading the full 216 pages ?

Here's my newish MWS - started life as a 14 inch M4A1, but just swapped out the barrel for the 10.3.  I'd originally planned for it to be a project gun, with my GHK MK18 remaining my primary, but it's just so good I think the TM has usurped the GHK!

The plan will be an L119A1/C8 CQB inspired build, so if anyone has any suggestions or advice I'm all ears. I'll be keeping the internal stock (except the SixG nub which is already in there).

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Holy Jesus, just finished reading the full 216 pages ?

Here's my newish MWS - started life as a 14 inch M4A1, but just swapped out the barrel for the 10.3.  I'd originally planned for it to be a project gun, with my GHK MK18 remaining my primary, but it's just so good I think the TM has usurped the GHK!

The plan will be an L119A1/C8 CQB inspired build, so if anyone has any suggestions or advice I'm all ears. I'll be keeping the internal stock (except the SixG nub which is already in there).

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Nice, how far down the L119 path do you want to go ? Very minimum i would say is , Storm pistol grip, correct stock and barrel shortened to 10"  Then you can get realy into it and have the correct machining done on the upper reciever and on the buffer tube ! ? 

 
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Nice, how far down the L119 path do you want to go ? Very minimum i would say is , Storm pistol grip and stock, barrel shortened to 10"  Then you can get realy into it and have the correct machining done on the upper reciever and on the buffer tube ! ? 


I know, it's a very deep rabbit hole to go down! I'll probably draw the line at the correct trades - I'm aiming for a ten foot build (i.e., from 10 feet away you probably can't tell... ?). Planning to get the barrel shortened and the FSP lug ground down, and got my eye on a CAR-15 stock from Brownells.  The pistol grip might end up as something more modern though - I can't stand grips with the nub, because I have small child-like hands ?

 
I know, it's a very deep rabbit hole to go down! I'll probably draw the line at the correct trades - I'm aiming for a ten foot build (i.e., from 10 feet away you probably can't tell... ?). Planning to get the barrel shortened and the FSP lug ground down, and got my eye on a CAR-15 stock from Brownells.  The pistol grip might end up as something more modern though - I can't stand grips with the nub, because I have small child-like hands ?
Lol The storm grip is very comfy to use , black ergo grip as seen on the A2 would work. That build should look pretty damn good. Had an interesting moment at the local site a few weeks back when I was up there testing my 119 on their chrono . Chap walked out of the game zone strolled past and did a classic cartoon type double take from 10 or 12 feet away 'whose is the C8 ? where did you get a C8 ?' every one else at the sight thinks its a bloody M4 ? TBF I have gone a looong way down the path with it though .

 
Same problem here, there is an uneasy cracking from the XL loader itself and filling up my Prowin / SAA mags with bbs is everything but quick and effortless. I was a tad disappointed as the XL loader has a quite revered status in this part of the forum ( and not that cheap ). My conclusion was that it's perfect for OG mags while aftermarket springs are too heavy on it. Your report + an individual from the local field have me doubting on the XL. He had more luck with the small loaders from TM. 


I second using the smaller pistol loader!! It actually loads the mags much better. I think what it is that it's easier to grip and the plunger mechanism just feels a tad more robust than the XL. I'll use my other XL (the one without the O ring) and see what happens... Otherwise just call me Mr ROD :D

I know, it's a very deep rabbit hole to go down! I'll probably draw the line at the correct trades - I'm aiming for a ten foot build (i.e., from 10 feet away you probably can't tell... ?). Planning to get the barrel shortened and the FSP lug ground down, and got my eye on a CAR-15 stock from Brownells.  The pistol grip might end up as something more modern though - I can't stand grips with the nub, because I have small child-like hands ?


The Magpul grips work well. They are slimmer too so will help with your erm small child like hands :D

 
Lol The storm grip is very comfy to use , black ergo grip as seen on the A2 would work. That build should look pretty damn good. Had an interesting moment at the local site a few weeks back when I was up there testing my 119 on their chrono . Chap walked out of the game zone strolled past and did a classic cartoon type double take from 10 or 12 feet away 'whose is the C8 ? where did you get a C8 ?' every one else at the sight thinks its a bloody M4 ? TBF I have gone a looong way down the path with it though .


Yeah considering the Ergo - mate has one coming for his GHK URGI, so I'll see if I like it.

Would love to see some pics of your L119A1 if you've got any!

The Magpul grips work well. They are slimmer too so will help with your erm small child like hands :D


Was also considering the MOE+! Similar in profile to the A2 I think, but without the nub.  I've got a BCM Gunfighter on the GHK, which is lovely, but not correct enough for this build.

 
Yeah considering the Ergo - mate has one coming for his GHK URGI, so I'll see if I like it.

Would love to see some pics of your L119A1 if you've got any!

Was also considering the MOE+! Similar in profile to the A2 I think, but without the nub.  I've got a BCM Gunfighter on the GHK, which is lovely, but not correct enough for this build.
MOE would probably work.

Pic from the last game day, must look for the others I've got of it. Mine is actually WE based , has trades, all the correct milling on the upper (front edge , extra slot and cut away over charging handle) and on the buffer tube (threads removed). Barrel shortened and lug removed. Buffer tube, stock, mag catch and fore grip are all R/S and I have a correct DIS for it. I also modded the lower KAC rail section so it appears to have the second securing system to match the one on the top section. View attachment 76585

 
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