THE TM MWS thread

[gunbod007]

I really want the HAO L119A2 monolithic upper, a thing of beauty but also the price!

Got the Angry Gun rail on the way instead.

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[SSPKali]

Look look look. It’s pure mind blowing gun porn is this kit. Sadly so is the price. But you have to pay for quality. Yeah? Then again it’s just a toy pew pew. Right? Or is it? Hmmm

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The Hao stuff is amazing quality and built to proper tollerences rather than the "may fit, but then again who knows" that other manufacturers seem to use. Plus the time to develop, test and make these limited runs mean that the % of the costs that need recouping from each one is pretty high. If they could shift thousands of them the price would come down ?

TBH it is just a toy gun and no one needs anything better than a CM16 but if you have the means why not get something that floats your boat?

 

[Hypokondrikern]

They seem to be doing a superb job at HAO, at least from the pictures I have seen. And to be fair, buying something that works, having the right tolerances and looks the part - is far from regular in airsoft. I can just not legitimise the price for it though, or should I say, I'd buy a GBLS for that money. Also, I think HAO could be a fun place to work at on a zero hour contract. Measure RS equipment and sometimes from images lay out CAD sketches and run the CNC to a finished product. Small batches and semi creative...

Hey... I just logged in to ask: 

Did someone green gas mod a SAA 35 pmag? Do you think it would be safe with the split construction? D60 project is moving...

 

 

[Wo1f]

Not really, mostly lazy ppl asking the same questions over and over, magazine stock notifications, shit nozzles and broken return springs

Some things change, some stay the same lol. I really need to buy another

 

[gunbod007]

So I noticed the O ring and spacer on the flash hider are very oiled up. I am have just got a 10 inch L119A2 angry gun barrel with its own spacer and o ring. Should I soak the o ring in silicon oil?

 

[gunbod007]

So I have the Angry gun L119A2 10 inch outer barrel. Doesn't seem to fit the standard TM inner? What have I done!?

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[AlphaBear]

So I have the Angry gun L119A2 10 inch outer barrel. Doesn't seem to fit the standard TM inner? What have I done!?

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Let me loop in @Uncle Paulyhe may be able to advise as I believe he had some interesting episodes with Angry Gun barrels  ?

 

[gunbod007]

I am this close to just using a small hand file to make it fit, but I don't know how tight this seal has to be for performance etc. Clearly not that important according to angry gun

 

[AlphaBear]

Just hold ya horses till you hear back from a few peeps on here. Have a beer or something in the meantime. 

 

[Davegolf]

Assuming you mean the O ring holding the two halves of the hop unit together, it’s primary function is just that, and stability.

No O rings should be soaked in silicone with the sole exception of gas magazines.

I would just tickle the outer barrel window larger, so it has the same fit as the TM outer.

 

[gunbod007]

Assuming you mean the O ring holding the two halves of the hop unit together, it’s primary function is just that, and stability.

No O rings should be soaked in silicone with the sole exception of gas magazines.

I would just tickle the outer barrel window larger, so it has the same fit as the TM outer.

The TM one is actually quite loose tbh and easily slides the inner barrel out.

Tried widening slightly using a screw driver but the metal is so soft. 

 

[AlphaBear]

For the who don't know here is the Eagle6 MWS barrel assembly video....

@gunbod007at around timestamp 3.09min onwards you can see the inner barrel being inserted into the marui outer barrel. If the hop unit doesn't slide in then I suspect the tolerance of the Angry Gun outer barrel aperture is too tight and needs a tad filing out to accommodate the Marui hop unit.. Maybe the angry gun barrel is made specifically for an angry gun hop unit to fit? There's a thought eh? 

 

[Softcore]

Anyone know where one could buy a stock marui cqbr outer barrel? Or any aftermarket 10.3 inch outer barrel that would fit with the stock barrel nut and front sight post?

 

[quango2k]

Anyone know where one could buy a stock marui cqbr outer barrel? Or any aftermarket 10.3 inch outer barrel that would fit with the stock barrel nut and front sight post?

I have one, pm me

 

[gunbod007]

Update on the Angry Gun L119A2 outer barrel:

Got it machined down and inner now fits in.

All assembled. But should The BB just slide out the barrel when loaded if the Hop Up is turned all the way off? I am pretty sure this didn't happen before with the standard outer barrel but I rarely have hop fully off.

I still won't have to hop fully off but could this be a warning sign that something is wrong or misaligned?

To be clear. If I cock the weapon and the Hop is fully off. The BBs will literally just roll out the barrel without even being fired. And it's not like it even needs to face straight down. Just the nozzle moving forwards sends the bbs rolling out. So this is making me think I have fucked up the air seal and something isnt sitting right

 

[Uncle Pauly]

Let me loop in @Uncle Paulyhe may be able to advise as I believe he had some interesting episodes with Angry Gun barrels  ?

...I would just tickle the outer barrel window larger, so it has the same fit as the TM outer.

^ This ?

I had to take a file to mine and open up the barrel window as Dave suggests. Very easy to do. Just go slow and check the fit frequently.

 

[gunbod007]

^ This ?

I had to take a file to mine and open up the barrel window as Dave suggests. Very easy to do. Just go slow and check the fit frequently.

Yep I had someone help me machine it down slightly.

Any experience with the BBs just rolling out? Very concerned I may have a bad seal or misaligned something now. Going to buy a chronological just to double check.

 

[alxndrhll]

Yep I had someone help me machine it down slightly.

Any experience with the BBs just rolling out? Very concerned I may have a bad seal or misaligned something now. Going to buy a chronological just to double check.

Certainly not something I’m an expert with when it comes to GBBRs, but as far as I’m aware mechanically there is very little difference between GBB, HPA and AEGs when it comes to loading/loading nozzles.

A BB running down a barrel with the hop off is entirely normal in many cases. It’s not so much to do with the ‘air seal’ as it is the lip tension in your hop unit. Some hop rubbers will have more tension, some will have less. I could be entirely misremembering but I believe Maple Leaf buckings have more lip tension than most stock buckings... but I’ve been through so many different brands of bucking on so many different RIFs at this point I get lost. If the rubber has a lower amount of tension on the lips it’s often the contact patch alone being depressed into the chamber that prevents them rolling down of their own free will. Conversely, too much lip tension can wear out/break a loading nozzle prematurely.

You have all the tools available to you to verify your results. Rather than speculate ‘I don’t think this happens with the stock components in place’, check them. Don’t be lazy, reinstall the original parts and see how it’s performing.

 

[quango2k]

Angry gun are the worst. They test nothing! I have a never ending list of shit with problems from them. They clearly never test any of their parts. 

 

[gunbod007]

Certainly not something I’m an expert with when it comes to GBBRs, but as far as I’m aware mechanically there is very little difference between GBB, HPA and AEGs when it comes to loading/loading nozzles.

A BB running down a barrel with the hop off is entirely normal in many cases. It’s not so much to do with the ‘air seal’ as it is the lip tension in your hop unit. Some hop rubbers will have more tension, some will have less. I could be entirely misremembering but I believe Maple Leaf buckings have more lip tension than most stock buckings... but I’ve been through so many different brands of bucking on so many different RIFs at this point I get lost. If the rubber has a lower amount of tension on the lips it’s often the contact patch alone being depressed into the chamber that prevents them rolling down of their own free will. Conversely, too much lip tension can wear out/break a loading nozzle prematurely.

You have all the tools available to you to verify your results. Rather than speculate ‘I don’t think this happens with the stock components in place’, check them. Don’t be lazy, reinstall the original parts and see how it’s performing.

Yeah I have checked, it doesn't occur with the standard outer barrel.