THE TM MWS thread

[quango2k]

I managed to get a RS Magpul QD plate to fit on my MWS with no mods.

The only issue is that it is slightly larger than the TM buffer tube so it rotates slightly as you tighten it up.

Just requires patience turning it in the right place to set it in the right position. 

Here's an older photo of my URGI build that shows it fitted.

Works perfectly with Ferro Concepts QD loops. ?

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i got the same one. A little bit of dremel work on the inside and it fits perfect and holds the buffer tube properly. 

 

[AlphaBear]

Tempted to order the L119A2 RAS and barrel. Never opened up this end before anyone know if it is simple? Worried I will fuck up performance if I don't put the inner barrel in just right or something.

Taking the barrel off is quite easy... Just follow the Eagle6 video and you can't go wrong.. Which L119A2 RAS and barrel are you getting? Make sure the barrel is a MWS compatible barrel, You'll know what I mean when you see the video.

 

[gunbod007]

Taking the barrel off is quite easy... Just follow the Eagle6 video and you can't go wrong.. Which L119A2 RAS and barrel are you getting? Make sure the barrel is a MWS compatible barrel, You'll know what I mean when you see the video.

So I was looking at the Angry Gun rail and then read the whole load of disclaimers under it from fire support https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/angry-gun-l119a2-rail--925-inch-short-version

Was going to buy the Angry gun 10 inch barrel https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/angry-gun-l119a2-10-inch--157-inch-outer-barrel-set-for-marui-mws-version

Not sure if that comes with a barrel nut though or if I will need an adapter. Will give them a ring on Monday.

EDIT: If it is as simple as buy these two part and follow the eagle 6 video then great. Otherwise not sure I will bother.

 

[Whereismyhammer]

Anyone got any experience with the pro win mag or the g&p 45 round mag. Looking for something with a bit more capacity. 
 

how is the gas efficiency. How’s the sealing.

Cheers 

 

[Captain Darling]

I’ve been thinking about ordering a couple of the G&P mags to try out, but I’m not sure if 10 extra bb’s are worth it for all that cost. And in my opinion they do look a bit daft,  like cumbersome dongs.

I was surprised to find that skirmishing with 35 bb mags was fine, 5/6 mags really lasted.  I tried my nice AEG MP7 the other day for a couple of 100 bb mags and I didn’t  know what to do with all the extra shots.  It felt boring and lifeless. 

 

[Crazy_Crystal]

I’ve been thinking about ordering a couple of the G&P mags to try out, but I’m not sure if 10 extra bb’s are worth it for all that cost. And in my opinion they do look a bit daft,  like cumbersome dongs.

I was surprised to find that skirmishing with 35 bb mags was fine, 5/6 mags really lasted.  I tried my nice AEG MP7 the other day for a couple of 100 bb mags and I didn’t  know what to do with all the extra shots.  It felt boring and lifeless. 

I've asked firesupport to order some in and they've said they'll be with them within a few weeks. Personally I'm after them as part of my impression build as they seem to be the first good P-mags and they have been used by SF guys.

The round count is the same as my TM mp7 so not a massive difference really, but the much larger gas chamber *may* help with cool down if you like full auto. I'll probably stick a full review up when I get my hands on some.

 

[Whereismyhammer]

I’ve been thinking about ordering a couple of the G&P mags to try out, but I’m not sure if 10 extra bb’s are worth it for all that cost. And in my opinion they do look a bit daft,  like cumbersome dongs.

I was surprised to find that skirmishing with 35 bb mags was fine, 5/6 mags really lasted.  I tried my nice AEG MP7 the other day for a couple of 100 bb mags and I didn’t  know what to do with all the extra shots.  It felt boring and lifeless. 

Yeah I currently run 4 normal and 1 short mags. Ammo usage isn’t really the concern just thought they looked a bit different. I like the pmag look so I got a couple of iron airsoft pmags but they were shit so I switched to standard tm. Used the iron airsoft ones one summer and they struggled to finish one mag even if it was 25+ degrees. The normal tm mags a great but airsoft is a fashion show so pmags it is. 
 

also full auto is banned on the site I go too so I’m not too fussed about it. However the extra gas capacity as has been pointed out by crazy crystal may be helpful preventing cool down in winter. Won’t know about that until I try it or someone reviews it. 

 

[Wo1f]

I appear to have some reading to do..

 

[AlphaBear]

I appear to have some reading to do..

Well you did start this thread way back then ?

I’ve been thinking about ordering a couple of the G&P mags to try out, but I’m not sure if 10 extra bb’s are worth it for all that cost. And in my opinion they do look a bit daft,  like cumbersome dongs.

I was surprised to find that skirmishing with 35 bb mags was fine, 5/6 mags really lasted.  I tried my nice AEG MP7 the other day for a couple of 100 bb mags and I didn’t  know what to do with all the extra shots.  It felt boring and lifeless. 

I’d stick with the Marui MWS ones. Just carry an extra couple if needs must. Plus they are coming back into stock all over the place now. I carry six but have two spare in case of erm emergencies (whatever that may be lol)

 

[AlphaBear]

Impulse101 has the nozzles back in stock.....

http://impulse101.jp/en/m4-mws-parts/tokyo-marui-spare-parts-m4-mws-mgg2-115-piston-nozzle-3619?search_query=mws&results=149

Get them whilst you can

 

[gunbod007]

Anyone know about mixing iron sights. I have the 14.5" Standard MWS but getting an L119A2 Rail and need to pick up some sights. thinking of saving some money by buying a front post only

 

[Davegolf]

I appear to have some reading to do..

Not really, mostly lazy ppl asking the same questions over and over, magazine stock notifications, shit nozzles and broken return springs

 

[AlphaBear]

Not really, mostly lazy ppl asking the same questions over and over, magazine stock notifications, shit nozzles and broken return springs

I’m sure everyone who participates reads through all the said pages? Ain’t that right peeps? ?

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Talking about nozzles I bought an extra two coz knowing me I’m just gonna break the MWS again ?

 

[GothicGhost]

Looking into buying an MWS soon CQBBR version maybe , I wanted to make a short barrel version around 9inches, but I am not sure what I would need to get?

I know there are kits out there for lots of money, but I am happy with just a M-Lok handguard plus the shorter outer barrel to go with it.


Could anyone point me in the right direction that on what parts would work with the MWS, I was looking and it seems g&p parts fit?

Thank you for any help.

 

[AlphaBear]

Looking into buying an MWS soon CQBBR version maybe , I wanted to make a short barrel version around 9inches, but I am not sure what I would need to get?

I know there are kits out there for lots of money, but I am happy with just a M-Lok handguard plus the shorter outer barrel to go with it.

Could anyone point me in the right direction that on what parts would work with the MWS, I was looking and it seems g&p parts fit?

Thank you for any help.

Oh that's easy.... get the CQBR version..... then buy a Madbull Daniel MK18 rail (9.5 inch version in tan/dark bronze/or whatever the colour is) and the Mk18 Marui flip up iron sights and boom! Job done... Oh of course you'll need the correct wrench at a PTS GBBR spacer and some shims..... piece of cake!

 

[alxndrhll]

Oh that's easy.... get the CQBR version..... then buy a Madbull Daniel MK18 rail (9.5 inch version in tan/dark bronze/or whatever the colour is) and the Mk18 Marui flip up iron sights and boom! Job done... Oh of course you'll need the correct wrench at a PTS GBBR spacer and soe shims..... piece of cake!

'I know there are kits out there for lots of money, but I am happy with just a M-Lok handguard plus the shorter outer barrel to go with it.'

There are a variety of clone rails of both the BCM MCMR and various Geissele rails out there. Ultimately depends on how much you want you outer barrel protruding out of the handguard, once you've picked your ideal length then you'll have a better idea of what's available to you.

Angry Gun MCMR clones come in 8", 10" and 13" if memory serves correctly. The clone Geissele rails run from 7" up to 13.5" (I think) from a whole host of brands in a variety of flavours. HAO seem to be regarded as having the best MK16 (9.3" and 13.5") rails out there for a decent price. Though I don't believe HAO are currently shipping to the UK due to COVID. I'm sure there are plenty of others, theese are largely just what are 'hot' right now.

No idea on outer barrels for the MWS specifcally I'm afraid, and depending on which rail you go for as mentioned by @AlphaBearyou'll possibly need an adapter to get a rail made for AEGs to fit it (the adapters are essentially just a shim which keep everything locked in place).

 

[AlphaBear]

'I know there are kits out there for lots of money, but I am happy with just a M-Lok handguard plus the shorter outer barrel to go with it.'

There are a variety of clone rails of both the BCM MCMR and various Geissele rails out there. Ultimately depends on how much you want you outer barrel protruding out of the hand guard, once you've picked your ideal length then you'll have a better idea of what's available to you.

Angry Gun MCMR clones come in 8", 10" and 13" if memory serves correctly. The clone Geissele rails run from 7" up to 13.5" (I think) from a whole host of brands in a variety of flavours. HAO seem to be regarded as having the best MK16 (9.3" and 13.5") rails out there for a decent price. Though I don't believe HAO are currently shipping to the UK due to COVID. I'm sure there are plenty of others, theese are largely just what are 'hot' right now.

No idea on outer barrels for the MWS specifcally I'm afraid, and depending on which rail you go for as mentioned by @AlphaBearyou'll possibly need an adapter to get a rail made for AEGs to fit it (the adapters are essentially just a shim which keep everything locked in place).

Yup, HAO ain’t shipping to Blighty yet coz of COVID here. Can’t figure out why that would stop them shipping here but who are we to debate the problems that COVID has caused the global supply chain. One thing is certain, they do make the best clone  rails and kits whether it’s for a MWS, AEG or the infamous PTW. 

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I have the HAO SMR 10.5” Geissele rail on my NGRS HK416. The quality and machining is second to none. Even the QD points are milspec! 

 

[alxndrhll]

Yup, HAO ain’t shipping to Blighty yet coz of COVID here. Can’t figure out why that would stop them shipping here but who are we to debate the problems that COVID has caused the global supply chain. One thing is certain, they do make the best clone  rails and kits whether it’s for a MWS, AEG or the infamous PTW. 

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I have the HAO SMR 10.5” Geissele rail on my NGRS HK416. The quality and machining is second to none. Even the QD points are milspec! 

My best guess would be they can't be bothered dealing with the customer service aggro of having things stuck in the mess currently left on global logistics. I imagine constantly replying to impatient folks wears thing after a while, to the point it's not actually worth taking orders requiring shipping to those locations. At least that'd be my suspicion, not so much something they have to do, simply something they're choosing to do until things normalise a bit.

 

[ajumma]

I second the HAO MK16 rail. It slides over the barrel nut with ridiculous precision and once locked in place, has 0 wobble in any direction. I can’t say the same for my MTW lower and upper though. 
 

I personally use the Angrygun 8” MCMR however I’m not entirely happy with it as it has some small wobble even when fixed in the perfect position (I used C&C outer barrel shims to get it just right. The adapter ring Camoraids used was way too big and they had to grind down the barrel nut to fit it, which was kind of dumb, they should have outer barrel shims on hand, I used two 0.2mm outer barrel shims and now it’s perfect with 0 gap between handguard and upper receiver with a good amount of torque on on the nut. 
 

If I knew about HAO I would have the same handguard on my MWS as I do on my MTW (9.3” MK16) as it’s both cheaper and in my opinion more high quality. 
 

I have the G&P outer barrel system (base + extension) which is perfect for my needs and matches my handguard with perfection which was mostly luck. It was cheap and drop in so I’m happy with it! 

 

[AlphaBear]

Look look look. It’s pure mind blowing gun porn is this kit. Sadly so is the price. But you have to pay for quality. Yeah? Then again it’s just a toy pew pew. Right? Or is it? Hmmm

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