THE TM MWS thread

[AlphaBear]

Stop worrying about things. It’s fine. It’s a GBBR. You are gonna drive yourself crazy over things you don’t need to worry about. Lol. When it breaks then worry. In the meantime just enjoy it. Not that we can play at the moment. Meh! 
 

And did you buy it from new? If so nothing to worry about. The MWS is awesome out of the box. Simple. 

 

[Cyberlawyer]

I hope you got a good price for the MWS and I'd recommend an epoxy with steel fibers for the filling of the cavities

It was a complete lower receiver only, as I already have a spare upper. I got a decent price. If you count what I paid for the upper when I bought it (minus the new rail etc I put on it) it was still a decent chunk cheeper than I could have bought a second hand MWS for.

I thought about using epoxy but I’m too impatient to wait for it to dry properly so I spoke to a mate who specialises in welding aluminium and filled it with a spot of weld. Some careful grinding back with a dremel and it’s virtually invisible.

I will reinstate the rotation pins as the damage to the upper has been done and this lower Is for my 2/3 gun competition rifle so it suits that civilian AR look, but I wouldn’t have bothered otherwise. It just reduces the resale value.

 

[gunbod007]

Stop worrying about things. It’s fine. It’s a GBBR. You are gonna drive yourself crazy over things you don’t need to worry about. Lol. When it breaks then worry. In the meantime just enjoy it. Not that we can play at the moment. Meh! 
 

And did you buy it from new? If so nothing to worry about. The MWS is awesome out of the box. Simple. 

Yeah bought it brand new was just thinking the movement on the nozzle could mean it doesn't sit flat on the mag but thanks for the reassurance. I ran it on some stronger gas today and wow!

 

[Hypokondrikern]

I will reinstate the rotation pins as the damage to the upper has been done and this lower Is for my 2/3 gun competition rifle so it suits that civilian AR look, but I wouldn’t have bothered otherwise. It just reduces the resale value.

Looking forward to see some pics!

 

[AlphaBear]

Yeah bought it brand new was just thinking the movement on the nozzle could mean it doesn't sit flat on the mag but thanks for the reassurance. I ran it on some stronger gas today and wow!

The tolerances are there coz of the nature of the platform. Also don’t use crappy quality bbs. And yes with a much powerful gas the MWS really is something else! 

 

[gunbod007]

The tolerances are there coz of the nature of the platform. Also don’t use crappy quality bbs. And yes with a much powerful gas the MWS really is something else! 

Always used ASG Blaster. Used to be an AEG guy years a go so comfortable with them. Never use the bbs that come with the gun. I have heard TM is the exception but still will probably leave them alone

 

[AlphaBear]

The forces within a GBBR are pretty brutal and so you need good quality BB aamo.  I was using Nuprol RZR 0.28 on my last game and I had a catastrophic failure which caused BB's to shatter consequently ripping my hop rubber and buggering up the nozzle. The only reason I used Nuprols was because I was changing between my AEG and MWS during the day and I couldn't be asked to run 2 sets of BB's and stick Geoff's into the MWS.... lesson learned! 

From my perspective use either Geoff's, G&G, BLS and I believe LongBow too.. Fire support recommend G&G over the others as their quality is top notch... these are my views of course... other members may have a different opinion

 

[Kerberos]

yes it’s counterclockwise to loosen, where did you get the tool from? I have the heat gun, but I want a tool that fits all 4 teeth so that the pressure is applied evenly, at the moment I’m leaning towards making one myself with a bit of grinding and welding.

I had bought a G&P URX tool with 4 teeth and had to grind down the teeth a bit until they fit the barrel nut. It probably would have been cheaper to make it, but I don't have the tools or knowhow to do it myself.

 

[gunbod007]

I am sure it's already somewhere in this thread but I just gotta say. I really think it's cute how they put this little foam thing on, to protect the cerakote from the dust cover. it's coming off none the less but nice. 

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[quango2k]

has anyone changed the gash monkey metal selector switch for a steel one or an ambi one ? if so, what is the best brand. I read the angry gun one is floppy and shite, I see there is a G&P one too. Any idea which is the best? 

 

[jsmithski]

has anyone changed the gash monkey metal selector switch for a steel one or an ambi one ? if so, what is the best brand. I read the angry gun one is floppy and shite, I see there is a G&P one too. Any idea which is the best? 

What’s wrong with the one you got?

 

[Hypokondrikern]

Always used ASG Blaster. Used to be an AEG guy years a go so comfortable with them. Never use the bbs that come with the gun. I have heard TM is the exception but still will probably leave them alone

I have been running ASG blaster 0.32s with no problems.  But I play semi only and don’t shoot too much. It’s my favorite bio bb after Geoffs 

 

[quango2k]

What’s wrong with the one you got?

The stock ones are nasty..I like steel. 

 

[jsmithski]

The stock ones are nasty..I like steel. 

It’s not a huge difference.

 

[quango2k]

It’s not a huge difference.

between steel and monkey metal?? The stock selector, bolt catch, forward assist and mag release are pot metal which is cack. even after minor use the coatings start wearing. I've already replaced everything apart from the selector as if they are not machined right, they can flop about (like the angry gun one) I'm wondering if the G&P or Gunsmodify are better made. 

 

[jsmithski]

between steel and monkey metal?? The stock selector, bolt catch, forward assist and mag release are pot metal which is cack. even after minor use the coatings start wearing. I've already replaced everything apart from the selector as if they are not machined right, they can flop about (like the angry gun one) I'm wondering if the G&P or Gunsmodify are better made. 

The coating wears out on steel as well. GP, Angry Gun etc. are all replicas, toy parts. Have you seen real steel fire selector and how it is made? 

 

[quango2k]

The coating wears out on steel as well. GP, Angry Gun etc. are all replicas, toy parts. Have you seen real steel fire selector and how it is made? 

My PTW (a toy) has steel parts, and still looks good after 13 years! My MWS has shit pot metal parts and is wearing after less than 7 days....

There is a reason other companies are making them out of steel. I want them in steel, also AMBI as I mentioned before. Are you just here to argue with me or can you comment if the G&P or Gunsmodify parts are any better? 

 

[gunbod007]

My PTW (a toy) has steel parts, and still looks good after 13 years! My MWS has shit pot metal parts and is wearing after less than 7 days....

There is a reason other companies are making them out of steel. I want them in steel, also AMBI as I mentioned before. Are you just here to argue with me or can you comment if the G&P or Gunsmodify parts are any better? 

What charging handle are you running. It is the only metal part I've considered replacing but heard bad things about angry gun. probably gonna leave it stock.

 

[quango2k]

What charging handle are you running. It is the only metal part I've considered replacing but heard bad things about angry gun. probably gonna leave it stock.

I got the Angry gun Geiselle one, fits just fine

 

[gunbod007]

For those who want to know what power you get from using Abbey Ultra Predator gas (the one that comes in a red can) see the attached pic. I did some testing using 0.3 Geoffs and 0.2 Excels at a temperature of 20c (I do believe). The left side shows a virgin G&P bolt carrier group. On the right is the standard Marui bolt. The max figure for the G&P bolt was 387fps!! With the Marui bolt it was 329fps on 0.2s. Interesting results eh? The mag was filled up each time fresh of course which explains the initial high power.

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Looks like I need to buy that G&P bolt