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THE TM MWS thread

So guys i should go for the ra tech npas or the angry gun mpa nozzle? 
I have a npas on the way.. after trying the angry gun bolt set, I found that the  FPS was not consistent at all, with joules ranging from 1.5j with full gas to 0.8j around the last few rounds. 

Not sure if I got a dud or that I put the nozzle valve upside down when disassembled to put threadlock on it. 

Anyone else can chime in? 

And if anyone can show which way up the nozzle valve goes would be fantastic !!

 
I have a npas on the way.. after trying the angry gun bolt set, I found that the  FPS was not consistent at all, with joules ranging from 1.5j with full gas to 0.8j around the last few rounds. 

Not sure if I got a dud or that I put the nozzle valve upside down when disassembled to put threadlock on it. 

Anyone else can chime in? 

And if anyone can show which way up the nozzle valve goes would be fantastic !!
That's why I am asking, I read that the mpa had some  problems also with fitting, 

 
Well I have a nice project to work on!!

As per my post a while ago I bought the front end of the Angry Gun John Wick conversion set that @LVOA-D had bought to replace his upper that he broke. Well about a week ago, I received an email from him stating he was giving up Airsoft and did I want to buy the rest of the kit plus the donor MWS. Well I jumped at the chance. For the same price of a new MWS I got an unused MWS, the John Wick/Tarran Tactical kit, Prometheus Barrel, TM Tracer Unit plus extras such as SixG Nub, Modify Tan bucking, tools etc.

I am going to build it into a DMR. As can be seen it is essentially in kit form so I will be l learning a lot about the inner workings of the MWS in intimate detail!! At least I have my other MWS to use as a reference ?

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Well I have a nice project to work on!!

As per my post a while ago I bought the front end of the Angry Gun John Wick conversion set that @LVOA-D had bought to replace his upper that he broke. Well about a week ago, I received an email from him stating he was giving up Airsoft and did I want to buy the rest of the kit plus the donor MWS. Well I jumped at the chance. For the same price of a new MWS I got an unused MWS, the John Wick/Tarran Tactical kit, Prometheus Barrel, TM Tracer Unit plus extras such as SixG Nub, Modify Tan bucking, tools etc.

I am going to build it into a DMR. As can be seen it is essentially in kit form so I will be l learning a lot about the inner workings of the MWS in intimate detail!! At least I have my other MWS to use as a reference ?


That's a great deal! Damn, you're lucky... :D

 
Well I have a nice project to work on!!

As per my post a while ago I bought the front end of the Angry Gun John Wick conversion set that @LVOA-D had bought to replace his upper that he broke. Well about a week ago, I received an email from him stating he was giving up Airsoft and did I want to buy the rest of the kit plus the donor MWS. Well I jumped at the chance. For the same price of a new MWS I got an unused MWS, the John Wick/Tarran Tactical kit, Prometheus Barrel, TM Tracer Unit plus extras such as SixG Nub, Modify Tan bucking, tools etc.

I am going to build it into a DMR. As can be seen it is essentially in kit form so I will be l learning a lot about the inner workings of the MWS in intimate detail!! At least I have my other MWS to use as a reference ?

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Sorry to hear LVOA-D is leaving. I’m jealous of this kit! I love working on GBBs, and you’re right that putting one together like this will help learn the system. Have fun!

 
Might anyone be interested, I am also selling my original Strike Industries Strike Rail (13,5'') and my original Strike Industries SI Link Curved Foregrip. Just sent me a PM for details. Both are unused and basically new.

EDIT: Just to get it out of the way, it is real steel and the MWS upper will have to be re-threaded to fit the SI Barrel Nut. I'm also only selling as a package deal :)

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Played with the MWS on Sunday and when it worked, it was awesome. 
However, on two separate occasions (with two different mags), I'd got the drop on someone and the mag gassed out (I'm assuming that's what it was - pulled the trigger and a shit load of gas came out and no BB).
It was about 4 degrees where I was playing.
So my questions are:
Was it because of the temperature?
Could it be something else?
Does anyone use black gas and if so, at what temperature?

I've got an NPAS fitted , so adjusting the power is no problem if black makes it run a bit hot...

On another note, I'm going to have a play with the hpa set up on Sunday when it's refilled and see if adjusting the PSI much higher, and the NPAS lower sorts the problem.
But I'm really confused - if you try two different sources running at the same PSI, how can they give different FPS/power readings?
Cos the gun doesn't know what it's being fed, surely?

 
HPA isn't a liquid, it's just normal air compressed. It simply expands on release. The green gas (propane etc) being stored under pressure as a liquid gas is effected by temperaure (boiling point). If it's too cold it won't change into a gas quick enough when released. It can freeze the valve and make it stick, more so when spitting out liquid. It'll also make any silicon residue thicken up if frozen in the process further slowing the valve or stopping it... Plus the freezing liquid gas will freeze moisture in the air doing the same.

So temperature is the issue when comparing the two (assuming everything is in good working order in terms of hardware)

In a nutshell. At least that's my 50p's worth. :D

 
Ok, I am back in the game! Guess I can't be helped...I am looking into making either a GHK M4 / MWS into a RIS II FSP or building something with a Geissele Mk8 rail, just for plinking though. Took me about two days before I started missing the stuff haha ✈️(that's the plane taking off with my money, destination Taiwan and Hong Kong).

 
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Hi,

if I could tap into the collective mws hive-mind. Those of you who still have the original bolt carrier could you just whip it out and have a shufti at it and tell me if this is normal wear and tear please.

The gat is standard 'cept an ag MPA nozzle ran on propane chrono'ing around 320fps.

The reason I ask is she's only done a few hundred round's so far, maintenance wise is as wolf outlined earlier.

Cheers

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Hi,

if I could tap into the collective mws hive-mind. Those of you who still have the original bolt carrier could you just whip it out and have a shufti at it and tell me if this is normal wear and tear please.

The gat is standard 'cept an ag MPA nozzle ran on propane chrono'ing around 320fps.

The reason I ask is she's only done a few hundred round's so far, maintenance wise is as wolf outlined earlier.

Cheers

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Yup, both my current MWS and my previous ones looked about the same.

 
Not a probelm, Itll work harden over time, more powerful gas will beat it a little harder mind.

This is prob the worst bit about a lot of 'lightweight' ally bolts, they get mashed to hell.

 
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