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THE TM MWS thread

So first of all I'd just like to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread, I have bought a cqbr variant because of Bada Bing's videos and the wealth of knowledge on here.  I'm relatively knew to forums as a whole so please feel free to put me right - I'm ex UK Armed forces - I can take it.

I haven't asked any questions before or after purchasing because it is all laid out here and as such I've already done my first mod which is an Angry Gun MPA nozzle which works well so far as I can tell on Nuprol 2, I plan to green gas mod my only mag so far but I've not had the minerals yet. I haven't chrono'd it yet as I'm waiting for a cheap Chinese propane adapter to arrive and I plan to run it on Coleman or rothenberger gas with a view to refilling them from my local calor gas depot.

As for the externals all I've done is add a vortex crossfire, a surefire m720v wm light and a cheap afg.

I also have had fun trying to fill the mag with a nuprol pistol speedloader and have found the tubeloader although inconvenient effective in as much as stopping me overloading the mag.

I plan on getting a Marui XL loader - anybody tried that? I have tried changing angles and pulling the follower down a bit for the first round and that has ended in an avalanche of bb's allez Uber Der platz. My Kwa mp9 was better to 'bomb up'.

Any hoo thanks again - top work people.

Weasel, out.

 
Wild Weasel said:
So first of all I'd just like to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread, I have bought a cqbr variant because of Bada Bing's videos and the wealth of knowledge on here.  I'm relatively knew to forums as a whole so please feel free to put me right - I'm ex UK Armed forces - I can take it.

I haven't asked any questions before or after purchasing because it is all laid out here and as such I've already done my first mod which is an Angry Gun MPA nozzle which works well so far as I can tell on Nuprol 2, I plan to green gas mod my only mag so far but I've not had the minerals yet. I haven't chrono'd it yet as I'm waiting for a cheap Chinese propane adapter to arrive and I plan to run it on Coleman or rothenberger gas with a view to refilling them from my local calor gas depot.

As for the externals all I've done is add a vortex crossfire, a surefire m720v wm light and a cheap afg.

I also have had fun trying to fill the mag with a nuprol pistol speedloader and have found the tubeloader although inconvenient effective in as much as stopping me overloading the mag.

I plan on getting a Marui XL loader - anybody tried that? I have tried changing angles and pulling the follower down a bit for the first round and that has ended in an avalanche of bb's allez Uber Der platz. My Kwa mp9 was better to 'bomb up'.

Any hoo thanks again - top work people.

Weasel, out.
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Hey weasel, good to have you on board.

First off the green gas mod is super easy and quick to do.

Secondly the TM XL speedloader works perfectly with the mws magazines, I recently moved over to it and wish I had sooner! 

Can I ask were you purchased your MPA from? And how is it as there as been mixed reviews of it so far? 

Cheers Whisky.

 
Whisky1 said:
Hey weasel, good to have you on board.

First off the green gas mod is super easy and quick to do.

Secondly the TM XL speedloader works perfectly with the mws magazines, I recently moved over to it and wish I had sooner! 

Can I ask were you purchased your MPA from? And how is it as there as been mixed reviews of it so far? 

Cheers Whisky.
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Hi Whisky,

I bought mine from Defcon Airsoft and they seem decent to deal with - they gave me 5% off for ex forces, as for the rifle it seems spot on, like I said I've only got one mag so far so I haven't skirmished it yet but it has had 2-300 round's through it and accuracy at 16m is around 75mm/3" groups shot from a supported prone position with stock internals ( about the same as my Kwa mp9 SMG)  and I'm wondering if some silicone oil has found its way to the bucking even though I clean and lube each sesh despite my best efforts to keep it away from anything that touches the BB - I need to buy the wurth "cleaning kit" recommend by wo1f!

As far as cycling I can report zero stoppages as should be expected.

I'm planning to run it on propane so my plan is to get all my kit - mags, fill adapter together then chrono it, adjust the mwa nozzle and hop then try and get some range time in if I can drop a fig.11 target at 50m reliably, I'm good for now till I can get some tools and a six g nub.

Cheers

Matt

 
Nice one fella, hadn’t thought of the electricians pole will look into it.

all I’ll say about the Chinese propane adaptors is I found the mad bull type (silver and red collar) the actual nozzle is a tad short to engage the angle fill valve on the MWS magazines. 
 

By the sounds of it we have exactly the same setup on our CQBRs except I’m running an element PEQ on the top rail instead of a torch. 
 

I found my CQBR using 0.28 and nuprol 2.0 gas was shooting 60m comfortably and able to hit a target 10/10 at 50m, I’ve now changed to a biro nub (it’s free) and 0.30bbs and I’m now able to fling them 70m quite happily. 
 

The green Gas mod is really easy and quick once if you’ve got a mag valve key (element one is £7) and a tool to cut the tube. I used a 4” angle grinder because it was quickest.

 
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DopeYourScope said:
Nice one fella, hadn’t thought of the electricians pole will look into it.

all I’ll say about the Chinese propane adaptors is I found the mad bull type (silver and red collar) the actual nozzle is a tad short to engage the angle fill valve on the MWS magazines. 
 

By the sounds of it we have exactly the same setup on our CQBRs except I’m running an element PEQ on the top rail instead of a torch. 
 

I found my CQBR using 0.28 and nuprol 2.0 gas was shooting 60m comfortably and able to hit a target 10/10 at 50m, I’ve now changed to a biro nub (it’s free) and 0.30bbs and I’m now able to fling them 70m quite happily. 
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What do you recommend for a propane adapter then?.

Cheers

 
Wild Weasel said:
What do you recommend for a propane adapter then?.

Cheers
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Others have recommended the Airsoft innovations one however I haven’t got one to test. I’ve got two of the madbull style that I use for pistols and my sniper rifle because I can’t use them with the MWS I even ordered and extender from Abbey which has the same issue. 

 
The only one you need is the airsoft innovation propane adaptor.  Don't use the ones made of metal as they wreck fill valves.  The plastic on the AI one is sturdy and I've been using it for 2+ years no-issue.

 
As above. I’m on 3+ years and 30+ gbbrs on the same Airsoft innovation propane adapter 

 
Wo1f said:
Sounds like a sealing issue. Either nozzle to bcg or nozzle to bucking. 

Have you checked the nozzle return spring and that the float valve isn’t sticking ?
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I will look on it. Thank you for advice. I am almost sure that is related to low temperatures (enviroment + gas freezing), because have that problem after shooting so many BBs (100-200 minimal) and teperatures goes down these days. Maybe frozen one of sealing parts?

Now I waiting for new buffer parts. I focus on that nozzle thing when MWS will be ready.

 
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Thanks for the info guys, mostly set up with the two loadouts. One long and one short. Gotta be ready for all scenarios !!

Hearing talk about the angry gun nozzle I might give that a try. The dmr is running 1.3J at 0.28g. Both with Dave's brass nub installed.

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chrislocho said:
Thanks for the info guys, mostly set up with the two loadouts. One long and one short. Gotta be ready for all scenarios !!

Hearing talk about the angry gun nozzle I might give that a try. The dmr is running 1.3J at 0.28g. Both with Dave's brass nub installed.

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What bipod is that? I’ve been trying to find an m-lok bipod for mine but don’t like any of the three options that I seem to have found.

 
I’m fairly new to the MWS world but slowly finding my feet. 
 

Yesterday I saw a YouTube video of the TAG Innovations stand at AirsoftCon 2019 in California.   TAG are releasing a new lower receiver which allows an HPA in to the MWS and also allows the use of regular AEG mags.  All whilst keeping the standard layout upper and bolt etc.  
 

in addition the lower also has an hpa take off for their own ML36 under barrel Grenade launcher.  
 

just wondering if anybody knew anymore about this proposed system at all?  I’ve not been able to find much info elsewhere at present. 
 

thanks. 

 
Just seen that video... hopefully it flops. Speedsofters shouldn’t have the option of running the mighty mws. It’s not even about consistency, it’s just about stupid round counts. 

 
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