THE TM MWS thread

[Uncle Pauly]

I’ve tried two. First failed after a few hundred rounds, second I had feeding issue with.... I haven’t been impressed but it might be my fault....

Hmm, thanks... that fits with some similar experiences I’d read about elsewhere (early failure of this particular rubber). Out of interest, what weight of BB were you using and what type of gas?

In reference to buckings, I will replace my buckings in my rifles every 10/15 at a push game days. I see them as a very consumable part and if you want accuracy you’ve got to pay for a bucking every so often. 

Wow, that’s more frequent than I’d expected! When I first ran a GBB (few years ago) I don’t think I ever changed the hop rubber once... which may explain why my aim was so bad ?

Definitely need to improve on my maintenance regime, it seems...

 

[Davegolf]

The likes of silicone and soft rubber buckings are only really any use in the very cold.

They are not tough enough to put up with the shear mechanical rogering they get from GBBRs

They work best in bolt action rifles due to the gentle seating/insertion of the loading nozzle.

Stock TM buckings and PDI (which do not work in the MWS for the record) are best suited to GBB guns.

The only real benefit of the Modify and some other silicone / soft buckings is better shot consistency through better bucking-to-loading-nozzle sealing, which gives a more consistent FPS.

So that improves shot consistency on the vertical plane.

This can also be achieved by seating the nozzle more firmly into the bucking with a stronger Recoil spring or HSB Spacer.

There is negligible improvement over a stock TM bucking on the horizontal plane.

 

[Jimmeh]

Hmm, thanks... that fits with some similar experiences I’d read about elsewhere (early failure of this particular rubber). Out of interest, what weight of BB were you using and what type of gas?

At the time I was using 0.36g Longbows and ASG Ultrair (might have been Guarder Black if it was cold).

 

[Uncle Pauly]

^ Thanks Dave, that’s a very clear and useful explanation ?

So the best option, in terms of overall durability/longevity, would be to stick with the standard Tokyo Marui bucking in the MWS. I assume your brass Super Nub also works fine with the TM rubber?

 

[Yukarin]

Just recieved the TM XL 470 speedloader, can confirm the gas magazine attachment that flips from the underside works well with the MWS magazines.

Feel really stupid for blowing about £50 on the HURRICANE loader when i got this for £16.

 

[DeltaSniper]

Hey Guys

It is quite hard to find info on this, but would this rail fit a TM MWS without any additional parts?

https://www.evike.com/products/66003/

Carbine Length AEG Rail

I read somewhere that the rail would have to be AEG Spec?

Is this true?

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

 

[Guest]

Nope ^^^

 

[DeltaSniper]

I am guessing I will be needing the Spear Arms Barrel Nut Adapter then, but will I need a new delta ring for it?

 

[Shizbazki]

Has any one had issues with trigger reset? Mainly having issues with getting this Guns Modify flat trigger working. New Dynamic precision trigger trigger springs. Used an air file at work to carefully take some of the surface off either side and the four corners.

The trigger works. But if you reset the sears with the trigger held in, It sticks. And takes a verrrryyy gently push to reset it. Im guessing I need to file off some more, which ill be doing tomorrow.

Oddly, if I put the stock trigger in, it does the same. 

I had this issue as well.

Bought a UAC flat head trigger in gold.

It fitted ok into the ZET trigger box but when test firing it on semi i had to push the trigger forwards by about 1 mm for the sears to properly reset so i could fire off another shot. no matter the filing and lubricating i did i could not sort this out and so reverted back to the stock trigger which worked fine since i didn't modify the stock ZET trigger box.

 

[Whisky1]

So doing some shooting earlier and my nozzle spring snapped...

So I'm thinking order the guns modify complete spring set so have spare springs, or do I go for the guns modify complete nozzle set?

Anyone else had this issue and how did you resolve it?

Cheers guys.

 

[Davegolf]

I'd just get a spring set - "if it ain't broke don't fix it", the TM nozzles etc are all good / don't have a track record of cracking etc and fit perfectly obv

 

[Whisky1]

I'd just get a spring set - "if it ain't broke don't fix it", the TM nozzles etc are all good / don't have a track record of cracking etc and fit perfectly obv

Awesome this was my first thought.

Cheers Dave.

 

[bapexxx]

Nope ^^^

how about the gasblow back version + the adapter ring?

 

[Davegolf]

So the best option, in terms of overall durability/longevity, would be to stick with the standard Tokyo Marui bucking in the MWS. I assume your brass Super Nub also works fine with the TM rubber?

Soz yes the Super Nub performs best with conventional mound buckings like the TM one

 

[Uncle Pauly]

Soz yes the Super Nub performs best with conventional mound buckings like the TM one

Thanks Dave. That's ideal, as I plan to stick with the standard TM hop rubber.

Unrelated… and a question for anyone here… but what’s the deal with the reinforced nozzles? I see them cropping up in people’s “look at all this stuff I’m going to install!” photos. But they don’t seem to get a mention anywhere in the discussion. Are they a worthwhile upgrade, maybe for running red gas? Or are people just installing them for ‘completeness’?

Speaking of which, here’s how I plan to modify the internals of my own MWS. I’m going to be running it on green gas (with modded mags) and want a good balance between performance and durability. If any of these parts seem redundant / not worth installing - or if any useful parts are missing from the list (?) - then please let me know. Thanks guys ?

Angry Gun Super Recoil Buffer kit (High Speed)
DP Aluminium Lightweight Bolt Carrier
Angry Gun Steel Bolt Stop Plate
DP Enhanced Nozzle Spring Set
UAC Enhanced Sealing Buffer
UAC Match Trigger

WIITECH Hardened Steel Trigger Disconnector

SixG Super Nub (with standard TM hop-up rubber)

 

[Sm00thH0und]

FYI one mag left in stock:

https://wolfarmouries.co.uk/tokyo-marui-m4a1-mws-gbb-magazine-35rd.html

Soon to be a member of the club....

 

[Sm00thH0und]

FYI one mag left in stock:

https://wolfarmouries.co.uk/tokyo-marui-m4a1-mws-gbb-magazine-35rd.html

Soon to be a member of the club.... Finally finished the thread, great info and sold me on the MWS.

Thx all!

 

[DopeYourScope]

FYI one mag left in stock:

https://wolfarmouries.co.uk/tokyo-marui-m4a1-mws-gbb-magazine-35rd.html

Soon to be a member of the club.... Finally finished the thread, great info and sold me on the MWS.

Thx all!

Just checked they’ll only sell the last mag with a rifle... so when you buy your new MWS you can carry a total of 70rnds ?

on the note of mags, I’ve got 3 on backorder with defcon hopefully they get them back in by the end of September I’ve got a 48hr game coming up.

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Just checked they’ll only sell the last mag with a rifle... so when you buy your new MWS you can carry a total of 70rnds ?

on the note of mags, I’ve got 3 on backorder with defcon hopefully they get them back in by the end of September I’ve got a 48hr game coming up.

Rainbow 8 have them in stock

 

[LEGXGPF]

Hello everyone,

I want to share some MWS progress with you. After multiple reading of whole thread i decided to do some upgrades. 

First upgrade was ORGA LEX05 BARREL (371mm, 6,05mm)SixG nub and Modify tan Bucking - No so much FPS boost, but I was able to shoot heavier BB - Basic and most important upgrade.

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After that I decided to do some externals upgrades. I chose Magpul because I totally love it! This is result. I am so satisfied.

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Now it is performance boost time ? Thanks to @Kayzeroth and his great performance post. I followed his experience and install folowing parts:

G&P CNC Enhanced Nozzle Valve for Marui MWS ( 5.0 ) https://shop.jkarmy.com/g-p-cnc-enhanced-nozzle-valve-for-marui-mws-4-8.html

Dynamic Precision Enhanced Sealing Buffer For TM M4A1 MWS https://shop.jkarmy.com/dynamic-precision-enhanced-sealing-buffer-for-tm-m4a1-mws.html

Dynamic Precision Enhanced Nozzle Spring Set For TM M4A1 MWS https://shop.jkarmy.com/dynamic-precision-enhanced-nozzle-spring-set-for-tm-m4a1-mws.html

This is results for me with green gas:

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The last upgrade was Airsoft Innovations GunGas propane Adaptor and with propane I get interesting FPS boost (but I lost by mistake photo with FPS and have only one with m/s but it is around 490 FPS

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Now I have a dream. Dreams name is mk12 MOD1. Its soooo beautiful. I want types used in Iraq and Afganistan by US forces... Something like that...

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So I need longer inner barrel, Scope, Harris Bipod, silencer and of course mk12 MOD1 kit.

I discover graet copy of Leupold M3 scope and now its the first part that I have home. Its super cool.

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Mk12 kit is on the way I find some Monster MK12 MOD1 Kit for TM M4 MWS GBB with Fixed Stock from ModelWork Airsoft

Bipod is easy to find. Many Harris style bipods are available.

But I have some troubles with barrel. I have Orga and its great. Now I need at least 410mm. I want to try Prometheus but I dont find any longer than 370mm. Have you any advices which one should I use?

I know that @Wo1f had his own mk12 project. Do you have some advices for me? I will update my progress and problems with building this dream build.

In the end I want again thank to all great people in this thread who share their experiences and advices!