THE TM MWS thread

[ash12]

I didn’t know there were Gen 3 mags, do we know the differences?

I’m assuming this is Gen 3 (by the 3) but it was first I heard of it. 

 

[Ashmanbob69]

Hello, got to use my stock rifle for the second time this weekend. I was running .30s and painfully noticed a lack of range even at full hop.

Is there a general consensus on what internal upgrades should be done as a minimum? Barrel, nub, rubber etc

Ive filtered back a few pages on here, saw some mention of a brass nub (six gun smithing i assume).

 

[scar527]

Hello, got to use my stock rifle for the second time this weekend. I was running .30s and painfully noticed a lack of range even at full hop.

Is there a general consensus on what internal upgrades should be done as a minimum? Barrel, nub, rubber etc

Ive filtered back a few pages on here, saw some mention of a brass nub (six gun smithing i assume).

Pretty much just the nub if you want to use .3's! Barrel is a nice to have, I mainly got a longer one to increase fps (USA limits). Can't reccomend the SixG brass nub enough. I tested the Laylax strike arm, as well as some concave nubs but the SixG paired with the stock hopup rubber is amazing. I'd have some spare nozzle return springs on hand, or just install an upgraded one to save you the headache ahead of time. Thats really all you need.

 

[Crome]

When did you last clean and inspect the barrel ? 

Sorted this but have cleaned the barrel multiple times since issues developed and tried multiple other inners. Turned out that the G&P SPR kit I brought was just so poorly made and aligned (came from the factory using shims at the receiver mount, shims on the outer barrel end and an adapter to make their randomly 12mm threaded barrel end to 14mm CCW all that meant that unless the stars aligned I was always gonna be having issues with it not being as accurate as needed. Lesson learned though will avoid G&P as a general rule in future without much more research.

 

[AlphaBear]

Hello, got to use my stock rifle for the second time this weekend. I was running .30s and painfully noticed a lack of range even at full hop.

Is there a general consensus on what internal upgrades should be done as a minimum? Barrel, nub, rubber etc

Ive filtered back a few pages on here, saw some mention of a brass nub (six gun smithing i assume).

On the topic of hop rubbers there are a few GBBR ones you can use but the general consensus is the standard Marui hop rubber works well with the SIX-G nub. This is the combo I run with time and time again...

 

[scar527]

TM MWS, Stock bucking, SixG nub and buffer spacer, 410mm Barrel + Revanchist High Flow Nozzle. Otherwise stock. Tested with .45's:

357.8 (fps)

354.5

355.1

354.3

355.3

355.7

354.9

357.1

1-2 seconds between shots.

Average of 2.65-2.66J

Got an average of 350 with .48's, similar consistency with one deviation of +10 FPS

Non UK user so higher FPS is legal where I'm at, that being said I have the stock nozzle and a Dynamic precision nozzle on hand to help tame that down a bit for DMR uses.

Why am I sharing this? Because I am SUPER impressed with the consistency. Its on par with my SRS using the same ammo.

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[AlphaBear]

TM MWS, Stock bucking, SixG nub and buffer spacer, 410mm Barrel + Revanchist High Flow Nozzle. Otherwise stock. Tested with .45's:

357.8 (fps)

354.5

355.1

354.3

355.3

355.7

354.9

357.1

1-2 seconds between shots.

Average of 2.65-2.66J

Got an average of 350 with .48's, similar consistency with one deviation of +10 FPS

Non UK user so higher FPS is legal where I'm at, that being said I have the stock nozzle and a Dynamic precision nozzle on hand to help tame that down a bit for DMR uses.

Why am I sharing this? Because I am SUPER impressed with the consistency. Its on par with my SRS using the same ammo.

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Crikey! Those FPS figures with 0.48’s are scary high. I would not like to be on the end of one of those that’s for sure lol. By the way, what gas are you using and at what temperature was your test done at? 

 

[MalcyFett]

Took the MWS out today for it's first game since I've fitted the new Brass nub. I found I wasn't able to reach out as far as my MP7 GBBR.

Tried .36 and .32. running predator ultra, at 250 fps with the .36 neither were working well with max hop on.

Is there something I'm missing/not doing to achieve at least the range of my MP7? Everything is stock inside, except for said brass nub.

 

[scar527]

Crikey! Those FPS figures with 0.48’s are scary high. I would not like to be on the end of one of those that’s for sure lol. By the way, what gas are you using and at what temperature was your test done at? 

Propane, 70-80F.

Again this was to see what the setup is capable of, in game MED's apply and power of the rounds drops a lot after it leaves the gun. 

 

[Crome]

Outside of kits does anyone currently make an M16A1 length barrel for the MWS? Other than a seemingly long finished production run from 5KU I've turned up very little.

 

[Whodat]

Hi All,

Long time lurker, first time poster. Am joining your proud band some time tomorrow when the postman comes and I have a couple questions. Should be getting a run out with it at Gunman in a couple weeks.

First, should I expect to be able to lift 36s with either stock nub or the biro trick? Second, if not I don't suppose anyone has a spare supernub they'd be willing to lend me and I'll get it you back as soon as the next run comes online??

Thanks!

Chris

 

[Nicayu]

Buying soon.

As you may have seen, there is a lack of TM m4 mws gbbr's for sale at UK retailers.

Does anyone have any experience of buying from Patrolbase?

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/tokyo-marui-m4a1-mws-zet-gas-blowback-rifle

Also, can anyone think of anything I should be asking Patrolbase before purchase?

Is there anything (particular version for example) that I should looking out for? Any pitfalls so to speak?

Many thanks 

 

[EDcase]

Patrolbase are one of the best ?

 

[Ashmanbob69]

On the topic of hop rubbers there are a few GBBR ones you can use but the general consensus is the standard Marui hop rubber works well with the SIX-G nub. This is the combo I run with time and time again...

Thanks. Sadly it seems the are OOS for the now.

Did email them but no reply as yet.

 

[Captain Darling]

Hi All,

Long time lurker, first time poster. Am joining your proud band some time tomorrow when the postman comes and I have a couple questions. Should be getting a run out with it at Gunman in a couple weeks.

First, should I expect to be able to lift 36s with either stock nub or the biro trick? Second, if not I don't suppose anyone has a spare supernub they'd be willing to lend me and I'll get it you back as soon as the next run comes online??

Thanks!

Chris

Which Gunman Chris, Descent?

.36's I always found to be a bit too heavy, in terms of cost, joule efficiency at 1J, availability and also time to target from pulling the trigger.  SixG nub is the one to go for, or the laylax arm from somewhere like Firesupport if Dave doesn't have any nubs ready to go/has missed the emails or whatever:

https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/first-factory-strike-hop-arm-for-marui-m4a1-mws

Biro trick might work, give it a try.

 

[Crazy_Crystal]

Gunman Chris, Descent?

If you're at descent I'll be there with my mws...

As far as weight goes, mine is stock bar a modify bucking and a six g nub and I like 0.36's but equally my mws is only ever really used in semi really.

 

[C-Diddy]

Buying soon.

As you may have seen, there is a lack of TM m4 mws gbbr's for sale at UK retailers.

Does anyone have any experience of buying from Patrolbase?

https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/tokyo-marui-m4a1-mws-zet-gas-blowback-rifle

Also, can anyone think of anything I should be asking Patrolbase before purchase?

Is there anything (particular version for example) that I should looking out for? Any pitfalls so to speak?

Many thanks 

Eagle 6 have them in stock, and Fire Support have the CQBR deal with 3 extra mags available. Had excellent service from both of then. MWS from FS and MP7 from E6.

 

[Whodat]

Yep mine is the CQBR coming from Firesupport. Was torn between it and the MWS but plumped for it in the end. Had good service from all the named names in the past, so sure you'll be fine.

Gunman I'm going to is Camp Bravo just for a skirmish. Have a three month old so every day is a 24 hour milsim right now.

Thanks for the advice on the 36s, I'll give them a go and see how i get on.

 

[Whodat]

Right, she's arrived.

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Having a few issues off the bat!

Firstly, the finish on some of the parts is really bad, should it be? E.g. fire selector, castle nut...

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Next up, the mag release is seemingly getting stuck on the mags and is a two finger job to actuate.

Finally, has anyone managed to get the mags to load with a vanguard speedloader? Is there a technique I'm missing?

 

[AlphaBear]

Right, she's arrived.

View attachment 80202

Having a few issues off the bat!

Firstly, the finish on some of the parts is really bad, should it be? E.g. fire selector, castle nut...

View attachment 80203

View attachment 80205

Next up, the mag release is seemingly getting stuck on the mags and is a two finger job to actuate.

Finally, has anyone managed to get the mags to load with a vanguard speedloader? Is there a technique I'm missing?

or switch 

Congrats on the purchase and welcome to the club..... The fire selector switch finish is pants on them all... Mine was kinda the same and I'm sure other peoples are too... The castle nut is hit and miss though.. I suspect your's just got tightened with a tad more vigour... believe you me if you need to tighten it with s Marui spanner it will mark anyway.... it's just the nature of the pot metal that Marui use,..