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THE TM MWS thread

yup, got this one 

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1,5 kilos ... pfff, also flecktarn because, when in Rome...  :)

 
Naw, you wanna get a Rem’s 63-100 cutter. Now that’s a pipe cutter..(it’s a work thing-honest)

 
I have a question, what is a decent low temperature to use a TM, with the green gas mod, and be able to shoot one full mag of BBs properly, in semi auto mode ? Let's say with green gas/propane (I bought ProTech green gas, any experience with it ? Is it propane lvl or below/above ?  ). Would 0-5 degrees (Celsius) be ok ? With let's say mags kept on the chest side of a plate carrier, so hopefully "stealing" some body heat.

And I have a crazy idea that pokes at my brain for a while. Does anybody know if somebody tried a CO2 mod for the TM ? Couldn't find anything with google search ... but I was thinking, how about taking a WE/GHK/others CO2 M4 mag, that has the same or a very close shaped outer shell with the TM one and maybe 3D print the inner top part (nylon or similarly strong plastic), so it still fits the original mag systems/shell but now has the upper part of the TM (gas outtake and BB loader lip). It would be necessary to check somehow the output of the valve on a trigger pull to see if it doesn't release too much pressure for the TM to handle and maybe replace it with a valve that has a lower output, if such a valve even exists but  ... yeah, what do you guys think about this idea ?

P.S.: still waiting for the gun to arrive, hopefully next week....

Later edit: I found this chart for nuprol:

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Comparing Nuprol 2.0 with this chart 

https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/propane-butane-mix-d_1043.html

it seems that it behaves like pure propane.

 
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Going on your nuprol chart (which is good gas to use BTW) you want to maintain around 9 bar operating pressure.

 
Propane has worked for me at 5c. Recoil is a little sluggish, but it emptied 2 mags on one gas fill. Nuprol is good gas through. If you’re going sub zero temps, try MAPP gas

 
incredibly, I can buy MAPP gas from amazon in Germany ... 13 euros for 750 ml can :) good to know. Meanwhile, flecktarn in the bathroom (still waiting for the guns... )

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found this pressure chart for MAPP:

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and comparing this with the Nuprol chart above, it would seem that MAPP is a bit more powerful than Nuprol 3.0 but less powerful than Nuprol 4.0

at 10 C degrees:

MAPP      113 psia (psia is psi absolute, which means 124.7 psi at see level because +14.7 atmospheric pressure)   
Nuprol 3   111  (if it's psi or 125.7 if those figures are in psia)
Nuprol 4    136  (if it's psi or 150.7 if those figures are in psia)

Any thoughts on this ?

 
Ok, I found something extremely interesting:
 




the video is in German but using google generated English subs does a pretty good job. 

In short, the guy fills up a gas pistol magazine, with green gas and then injects only a small amount of CO2, using that charger, maybe half a second to a second. Thing is, the result is very very nice and some people on the German Amazon review page for this product were reporting also good performance in cold weather. Any thoughts on this ? Sounds like a miracle cure for my cold weather anxieties :)

 
 
Hi Guys,

I bought one of these sexy things and tried it for the first time at a skirmish today. Oh ma dayum this thing is the best thing I've owned period. It's damn accurate as well as easily overhops 0.28's which i was surprised with tbh but I've never seen a gbbr as accurate as this thing. The shots really get out there too.

I just ran into a couple of minor problems. When I'm filling mags I felt like to get through a whole mag I would have to "overfill" all the mags until liquid started spewing out of the magazines. Definitely gonna hit up the green gas mod but also, has anyone had any issues with bb's getting stuck in the magazine? I might be overfilling so the spring is snagging at a certain point but it happened a couple of times today and the mags should be clean, being new mags n all.

 
I would not put unregulated co2 inside a mag that wasn’t even designed for green gas. You’ll turn your mag into a pipe bomb. 

TM mags do seem to do that. Takes ages to fill them and they hiss until they spill liquid green gas out. I don’t see it as a problem so I don’t really worry about it. 

What BB’s are you using? I’ve had this issue every now and then, mostly with BB’s  that aren’t Geoff’s. Not sure if it’s the coating inside he channel, but prolonged use should wear the sides smooth. 

 
Have noticed during my last couple of games that my bbs are shooting out of the MWS with a side to side wobble. 

Any ideas?! 

 
Wo1f said:
What BB’s are you using? I’ve had this issue every now and then, mostly with BB’s  that aren’t Geoff’s. Not sure if it’s the coating inside he channel, but prolonged use should wear the sides smooth. 
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I was using devil blaster bb's.Do you think buying silent fill valves will stop the splurting of freezing liquid? ?

 
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