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The most Advanced Airsoft Grenade in the World!

I have decided, as soon as it changes from flexible to fixed funding you will find me on your indigogo order sheet!

 
You'll be getting my funding soon as well.

edit: posted links to this thread and the fundraiser's page onto a Facebook airsoft buy/sell group, seems to be working- 4 more donators!

 
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"Flexible Funding: This campaign will receive all funds raised even if it does not reach its goal."

No offence but this puts me off
8% funded and 60 days still to go... Lets just assume it will reach 100% in 60 days :D

 
This ^^^^
That is one benefit of a new radical design attempting to push away a product champion... The possibility of lower costs, but with more market appeal leading to everyone being happy...

Sorry, I have my IB Design Technology exams next week; and this is the kinda thing we study a lot...

 
8% funded and 60 days still to go... Lets just assume it will reach 100% in 60 days :D
The flexible thing puts me off, my head keeps asking "what guarantee are there that I would get the grenade that I ordered? "

Like I said in my reply to your message, I don't know you, you could be a true honourable gent or not. Can anyone (existing member on here) vouch for you? Or has at leased played on the se site as you?

Sorry if this sounds like I am having a go, or being negative, I do not mean it to come across that way. This is something I want, but like 90% of people I work too dam hard to give away what little I earn.

 
When it gets to 100% they'de release the funds in either case. The only difference is it can can fall short of 100% in flexible and they still release funds.. Image it's 98% and then they don't release it when actually I could make 80 grenades and it's still viable.

The point is, even with Fixed, I get the funds and don't have to supply anything. But of course the whole point here is to make this product even better than it already is and make this a desirable product so that all the resellers want to stock it!

 
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I have to accept that they might not be able to change it, if this is the case (and they haven't got back to me yet) then when it gets to 100% then it doesn't make any difference which it is. Fixed or Flexible as past that point they release funds at the 60 day point.

So just wait until it gets to 100% if you are concerned, if it falls short then wait until the product released. 11% already at day 1.

 
this concerns me as well, guess I will wait and see if it looks like getting funded. I love the idea though

 
[SIZE=9pt]Michele, May 5, 16:38:[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Hi MOLYNEUX ADVANCED SYSTEMS,[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Thanks for reaching out to us. Unfortunately, once a campaign has gone live and raised any amount of funds, we're not able to change the campaign's funding structure. This is because we use different payment processing systems for contributions made via flexible funding versus those made via fixed funding.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]However, if you'd like to launch a new campaign with the Flexible Funding structure, you are welcome to do so. You can change the text in your Fixed campaign to indicate you are no longer raising funds, and once your campaign hits its deadline all of your contributors will be refunded.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Thanks for your understanding, and please let me know if you have any further questions.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Cheers,[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]Michele
Customer Happiness
Indiegogo (www.indiegogo.com)
[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]I'm sure they mean Fixed but never mind, it's not able to be changed and it's been shared so many times that I don't want to loose the link.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=10.5pt]20% funded already guys! Just over 24 hours... Do you still think you need to wait?[/SIZE]

 
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Not sure if youve seen the arnies thread mate so ill post the questions here and can relay them if you like.

http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/214949-the-most-advanced-airsoft-grenade-in-the-world/

1. The following applies to the Kickstarter page, since although some of the questions are answered elsewhere the Kickstarter page will be your primary sales pitch. It looks promising, but you don't talk at all about how the firing portion of the grenade actually works. Is it blank-firing? Reloadable cartridges? How about the battery - is it a LiPo, a NiMH? Is it a standard size, or proprietary? Is that the final design - and if so, why have you got exposed cap-head machine screws at one end that concentrate force and could injure someone, when you could recess them? How do the automatic updates work - do they work on Mac and PC? Is there software we need to install, and if so, how is that supported?

I want something like this very much, but your draft is a way off ready - hell, even the design of the grenade itself could use some work IMO, especially concerning those bolt heads. If it doesn't use blanks - the UK standard, and rightly so given how affordable they are, why not? Can you guarantee a supply of these presumably proprietary explosives?

I think this is a great idea, but it needs polish.

2. It would nice if it was a bit more....grenadey. Like the Cyalume which I appreciate is a hell of a lot more.

http://www.lumisafe.co.uk/CTS/HG1.shtml

 
This seems like a really cool project, I especially like the recovery features... maybe they could also have recovery homepage instructions engraved, so that site owners can recover them without having to know about it in advance?

Two things that comes to my mind as far as competition goes thou:
1. I, and I guess others too, trust electronic a lot less than mechanic, no matter how robust they are claimed to be. So a no-questions-asked guarantee for maybe 10 years(?) would probably help your sales.

2. There is a blank out there now where you can load 6(?) blanks, the n just click and twist in between use. I'd say that's your biggest competition, if a similar feature would be integrated I think that would also win over a lot of customers.

anyway, great to see something new and innovative, keep it up!

 
Not sure if youve seen the arnies thread mate so ill post the questions here and can relay them if you like.

http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/214949-the-most-advanced-airsoft-grenade-in-the-world/

1. The following applies to the Kickstarter page, since although some of the questions are answered elsewhere the Kickstarter page will be your primary sales pitch. It looks promising, but you don't talk at all about how the firing portion of the grenade actually works. Is it blank-firing? Reloadable cartridges? How about the battery - is it a LiPo, a NiMH? Is it a standard size, or proprietary? Is that the final design - and if so, why have you got exposed cap-head machine screws at one end that concentrate force and could injure someone, when you could recess them? How do the automatic updates work - do they work on Mac and PC? Is there software we need to install, and if so, how is that supported?

I want something like this very much, but your draft is a way off ready - hell, even the design of the grenade itself could use some work IMO, especially concerning those bolt heads. If it doesn't use blanks - the UK standard, and rightly so given how affordable they are, why not? Can you guarantee a supply of these presumably proprietary explosives?

I think this is a great idea, but it needs polish.

2. It would nice if it was a bit more....grenadey. Like the Cyalume which I appreciate is a hell of a lot more.

http://www.lumisafe.co.uk/CTS/HG1.shtml
1.

The battery is LiPo and not serviceable due to the soldered connection required for reliability and the high current required for igniting the fuse at such a low voltage.

The grenade currently uses proprietary pre-loads but due to demand we are currently designing a solenoid actuated sprung hammer blank / primer base which will be supplied with the IGG order.

The bolt heads are there to help prevent the button being pressed so they serve two purposes.. Basically, don't throw it at someone's head! We can do a boot at a later date.

2.

We'll paint it green ;)

 
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I should add...

The diameter and length can be reduced somewhat it's 106mm tall by 67mm wide.. Perhaps someone could tell me if that fits most pouches you have?

 
I should add...

The diameter and length can be reduced somewhat it's 106mm tall by 67mm wide.. Perhaps someone could tell me if that fits most pouches you have?
That would fit my Viper grenade pouch, quite well actually. However, that won't fit 40mm grenade pouches; too wide.

 
Fab concept, looking forward demo. Will be backing ASAP.

We'll paint it green ;)
Noo. Will make them a nightmare to find in vegetation. And let's be realistic, it's still going to look funky.

My personal preference would to go all out with the neon pink for visibility, but that may be a little extreme.

Would you be able to machine out a through hole, offset to the side of the main body? Currently there's not a whole lot to anchor too, and would be nice to be able to run a wire loop through it to clip to. I'm only thinking a 3/4mm diameter.

I also second the blank situation, primers are simply too good a value for money. (Those Cheddites especially)

I'm of the opinion that the matched charger is more faff than it's worth. Theft really isn't an issue, and anyone scummy enough to do so probably won't know about it's existence in the first place.

Loosing the ability to power from 12v(?) straight up, obviously still with the proprietary connector, and use shared/site chargers, far offsets the benefits.

 
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Fab concept, looking forward demo. Will be backing ASAP.

Noo. Will make them a nightmare to find in vegetation. And let's be realistic, it's still going to look funky.

My personal preference would to go all out with the neon pink for visibility, but that may be a little extreme.

Would you be able to machine out a through hole, offset to the side of the main body? Currently there's not a whole lot to anchor too, and would be nice to be able to run a wire loop through it to clip to. I'm only thinking a 3/4mm diameter.

I also second the blank situation, primers are simply too good a value for money. (Those Cheddites especially)

I'm of the opinion that the matched charger is more faff than it's worth. Theft really isn't an issue, and anyone scummy enough to do so probably won't know about it's existence in the first place.

Loosing the ability to power from 12v(?) straight up, obviously still with the proprietary connector, and use shared/site chargers, far offsets the benefits.
The charger needs to be smart anyway because it's got to handle the updates, we can make this security feature and option to turn off.

Of course I was joking about painting it green!

We won't put a hole in the body but we can make a part that goes on one of the bolts with a hole so you can clip it to something. This was something we'd already planned to do so hopefully it should do what you need.
 
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