The 'How Did Your Airsoft Day Go? Thread

[Colin Allen]

Today was my second visit to Splatoon, near Wickford in Essex.  This is a classic paintball site that also holds regular airsoft days.

The day started very late as there were far more players that the organisers expected, some of whom arrived at the last minute; I would have started the day without them and let them join the second game but I am not a site owner.

We started off with a simple domination game, which did not start until 10:50(!); teams had to turn each of three spinners spread across the site; to their colour to show their dominance of each area.  I spent most of the game in the top field, which has a lot of structures made of containers, old cars and two helicopters at opposite ends of the field.  We were coming from the slightly more difficult end of the field and, despite reaching the spinner on two occasions, did not manager to have it on our colour for long enough.  We lost the game 2-1 as our colleagues in one of the other fields did rather better.

After a spell in the safe zone to mag up, we went out for a game of fallback; the attackers, who regened on a marshal, had to clear three zones in a particular order, being unable to attack the next zone until they had cleared the previous one; once they called clear, a time penalty of 30 seconds was imposed for each surviving defender in that zone.  Defenders had one life in each zone.  After clearing the three zones, they them had to enter the fourth zone and get a player to the grey helicopter.

We were the defenders and did a good job of slowing the enemy's advance; in the second zone, I found a great position on our right flank, where I was able to take out a number of attackers who were trying to outflank us, before eventually getting potted when they broke through the centre.

In the next zone, which contained the black helicopter, our defence held for some time until the enemy eventually punched through, forcing us back into the final zone to defend the grey helicopter.  Again, I found a nice flanking position, just inside the woods, from where I was again able to take out a number of the enemy.  I heard one of them telling his mates exactly where I was, so I changed position and shot them as they attempted to assault my previous position.  Eventually, I was hit but, while starting to walk back to the safe zone, the enemy's attack timed out.

We then broke for lunch (nice veggie burgers!), during which I received a message from the lad telling me that the team of which he was 2i/c and navigator had completed Cambrian Patrol, being awarded silver; I am a very proud father.  Clearly, all those summers on Dartmoor helping him learn to navigate had some impact.

After lunch, we took over the attacking role in the fallback game, clearing the first two zones rather rapidly after deciding that it was better to take a couple of 30 second time penalties rather than waste five minutes searching for a couple of Bush Wookies.  The third stage was a lot slower as just getting into the field and past the black helicopter is quite tough.  Eventually, through teamwork and some great use of pyro, we forced our way into the final zone, getting players to the grey helicopter with about 90 seconds remaining.

After another quick mag up, we played a game where our team, starting in the woods, had to get a VIP to either of the helicopters; if the VIP was hit, the game ended, so we decided to leave him at the rear with a couple of bodyguards while we got on with launching a diversionary attack on the black helicopter and, slightly later, the main attack on the grey helicopter.  We had infinite lives respawning on a marshal while the defenders had three lives in the top field.  I have no idea what the outcome was as I was involved in the diversionary attack on the black helicopter, which was great fun, especially storming one of the building complexes with pyro.

Despite the late start, it was a really good day, with well thought out games and effective marshalling from a professional but friendly team.

Weapons used:
Classic Army HK33
Classic Army HK53
Milbro Classic M1911 (CO2)





 

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[The_Lord_Poncho]

Mixed morning at Driver Wood this past Saturday. I opted to play the first game with the L96 bolt action and upgraded Mk23. Had some great success - achieving around 7 or 8 'eliminations' in equal part with each of the Mk23 and the sniper - whilst only being taken out myself 4 times. Quite pleased with that ratio, and the newly opened up/cleared area of the site really lent itself to the longer range guns. My el-cheapo chinese leaf suit really came into its own - i only wear the jacket, and have modified it by sewing on patches of hessian threads to augment the nylon lines of fake leaves. For something so lightweight and cheap, it remains super effective whilst being breathable and non-snagging enough for a more active/mobile style of play. DTD holster riding on a padded molle belt was great for the MK23, but i need to rethink my storage for the rifle mags - they were a pain to get in and out of the little zip up pouch i had squeezed them into. 

Second game, i opted to bring ditch the leaf suit and rely on the rather effective Partizan/SS Leto camo suit and run the Cyma M14. Unfortunately it seems to be suffering a bit of an intermittent wiring fault, so cue some rather comical moments when i should have got the drop on handfulls of enemy players only for the rifle to refuse to fire, with inevitable consequences. I also tried running .28 bbs in it for the first time (not bringing any .25s to the site with me), and it was stubbornly refusing to lift them. A bit of a strip down, re-wire, and a upgrade with a macaron is in store i think! Might also try to pop in a ZCI tightbore at the same time to make use of the 20fps headroom that i have before hitting the 350fps site limit....

 

[JinxDuh]

Today was my second visit to Splatoon, near Wickford in Essex.  This is a classic paintball site that also holds regular airsoft days.

The day started very late as there were far more players that the organisers expected, some of whom arrived at the last minute; I would have started the day without them and let them join the second game but I am not a site owner.

We started off with a simple domination game, which did not start until 10:50(!); teams had to turn each of three spinners spread across the site; to their colour to show their dominance of each area.  I spent most of the game in the top field, which has a lot of structures made of containers, old cars and two helicopters at opposite ends of the field.  We were coming from the slightly more difficult end of the field and, despite reaching the spinner on two occasions, did not manager to have it on our colour for long enough.  We lost the game 2-1 as our colleagues in one of the other fields did rather better.

After a spell in the safe zone to mag up, we went out for a game of fallback; the attackers, who regened on a marshal, had to clear three zones in a particular order, being unable to attack the next zone until they had cleared the previous one; once they called clear, a time penalty of 30 seconds was imposed for each surviving defender in that zone.  Defenders had one life in each zone.  After clearing the three zones, they them had to enter the fourth zone and get a player to the grey helicopter.

We were the defenders and did a good job of slowing the enemy's advance; in the second zone, I found a great position on our right flank, where I was able to take out a number of attackers who were trying to outflank us, before eventually getting potted when they broke through the centre.

In the next zone, which contained the black helicopter, our defence held for some time until the enemy eventually punched through, forcing us back into the final zone to defend the grey helicopter.  Again, I found a nice flanking position, just inside the woods, from where I was again able to take out a number of the enemy.  I heard one of them telling his mates exactly where I was, so I changed position and shot them as they attempted to assault my previous position.  Eventually, I was hit but, while starting to walk back to the safe zone, the enemy's attack timed out.

We then broke for lunch (nice veggie burgers!), during which I received a message from the lad telling me that the team of which he was 2i/c and navigator had completed Cambrian Patrol, being awarded silver; I am a very proud father.  Clearly, all those summers on Dartmoor helping him learn to navigate had some impact.

After lunch, we took over the attacking role in the fallback game, clearing the first two zones rather rapidly after deciding that it was better to take a couple of 30 second time penalties rather than waste five minutes searching for a couple of Bush Wookies.  The third stage was a lot slower as just getting into the field and past the black helicopter is quite tough.  Eventually, through teamwork and some great use of pyro, we forced our way into the final zone, getting players to the grey helicopter with about 90 seconds remaining.

After another quick mag up, we played a game where our team, starting in the woods, had to get a VIP to either of the helicopters; if the VIP was hit, the game ended, so we decided to leave him at the rear with a couple of bodyguards while we got on with launching a diversionary attack on the black helicopter and, slightly later, the main attack on the grey helicopter.  We had infinite lives respawning on a marshal while the defenders had three lives in the top field.  I have no idea what the outcome was as I was involved in the diversionary attack on the black helicopter, which was great fun, especially storming one of the building complexes with pyro.

Despite the late start, it was a really good day, with well thought out games and effective marshalling from a professional but friendly team.

Weapons used:
Classic Army HK33
Classic Army HK53
Milbro Classic M1911 (CO2)





 

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I was shocked at the amount of people there yesterday, I don't think I've ever seen it so busy!

Always enjoy the day at Splatoon though, and you hit the nail on the head with your description.

 

[Colin Allen]

I was shocked at the amount of people there yesterday, I don't think I've ever seen it so busy!

Always enjoy the day at Splatoon though, and you hit the nail on the head with your description.

Thanks, I have enjoyed both of my visits there; the lad did as well when he came the first time.  It will be a regular part of my rotation of sites now; it offers something very different from AP and Tower.

 

[Cannonfodder]

I've only been to splatoon once but would definitely go back

 

[Spartan09]

finally managed to get out to play again after a couple of months due to various circumstances, and booked in at RIFT REDCON-2.

got to site and got booked in early made sure i was at chrono early in order to set up my VFC M249 (having fitted an adjustable velocity valve in the nozzle, it needed dialling in... due to the cold temperatures i was only able to get 0.7J out of the gun, but once the temperatures rose, i rechronoed and was getting 1.1J) then off for a cup of tea to warm up, chat with friends i haven't seen for a while and then load up for briefing and team assignment. i ended up on red team

first half of the day was a 2 hour total war, with red team having to secure "data recorders" and the blue team needing to capture laptops and each team having use of a "snatch" Land Rover driven by a marshall that we could direct where we wanted it to go.  i decided i would board the land rover and after conferring with the marshall/driver and the others who decided to board as well, we decided the best option was to use the land rover to take our fireteam to the opposite side of the land in a snatch and grab before the enemy team could reach the data recorders and lock them down.  we were successful in seizing the objectives and returning them to our respawn before heading off for a second set of data recorders at the top of the land which were captured, but i got shot out before the objectives were secured and had to walk back to respawn, where i realised my red dot had been shot out.  on our way out to both objectives i had been operating as top gunner and managed to keep the enemy's heads down,  and i believe i managed to get 2 or 3 kills on our way out to the second objective (having not seen a soul to and from the first objective) before being hit and had to be replaced as top gunner while i got mediced by one of the rest of the fireteam.   definitely a fun experience, though next time i will probably run smaller weapons, as the M249 with the box mag gas tank coupled with the high roof of the land rover meant i had to stand on the front pair of seats to get a decent aim and not appear to be blind firing out the roof hatch

the rest of the morning was spent moving between different firefights trying to provide support as best as i could, before needing to duck out for 20 mins to reload mags and grab a drink from my car and then returning for the last 30 mins of game time, where i also decided to drop down to my GBB Skorpion to enable me to move through one of the CQB areas much easier.

lunch break was spent tinkering with my guns, reloading mags, chatting and browsing the onsite shop before back out for the afternoon which consisted of two 50 min games where attackers had to activate beacons at set locations then defend them for as long as possible while defenders had to turn them off.

first game red team was attacking and i joined the attack on one location, got shot out and by the time i returned we had captured the location,  so a group of us headed to the next location thinking it was going to be a tough nut to crack.  the location was a fenced compound with only one gate as entry and the inside of the fence had an earth bank with tall bushes running around the inside edge which made getting a look inside impossible. this, combined with the fact it was close to the blue team respawn meant that a group of us spent almost 10 mins sneaking around the fence line and ducking down whenever we saw movement ahead and praying we didnt get spotted all while listening to the voices of the players inside the objective compound.  we finally reached the gate and were about to launch a massive assault, only for one of the group to take a peek and realise that the voices from the compound belonged to a group of fellow red team who had already captured the objective and were holding it.  having seen a large group of blues heading back to their spawn half of us decided to hang around with the other defenders in case blues should try and swarm us,  but no one appeared

after a quick break to rearm, the game was reversed and blue team became the attackers.  this game i definately felt i was spending more time walking back to respawn compared to the other games,  but i was able to set a good ambush on a group of enemies.

while moving through the bushes between respawn and one of the heavily contested areas i heard voices approaching and i ducked behind a bush on top of a small ridge and waited for the voices to get nearer, and they turned out to be a blue patrol trying to flank the red team attacking from their rear. from my position i was mostly hidden and able to fire through a small gap in the bushes, and took out all 5 of the enemy players with a few bursts from the 249, while the few shots in return all missed wildly or were caught by the branches of the bush.  staying in the position i was then able to take out two more enemies that came out to try and medic the patrol before i heard my team mates moving up again and i decided to join the assault, where i got shot out.  by the time i had respawned and begun heading back to the fight, the game was over.

definitely enjoyed myself, and i hope to be able to get out more regularly in the near future

 

[Impulse]

Another weekend, another game day at Worthing Airsoft and it was a bit of good and a bit of bad, all things considered. We turned up and I had not one, not two, but three m14s with me! All of them were different in almost every way. My TM m14 is full length and HPA, my Cyma m14 was a socom with an EBR outer barrel (so I can run a suppressor and still have a front iron sight) and the G&P was a relic in the DMR stock. Anyway, I knew I needed to test them all and at least one would work, surely... Surely, right? Well, fortunately the first one I took up did. The TM m14 was set to 80psi, passed chrono at 1.11 - 1.13J, but it's still doing the weird jamming thing, but not as much and not as bad. It is still a bit weird when I take the mag out and clear it, but it doesn't jam itself open to the point where I need an unjamming rod to fix it, and when the mag is in and it runs out of BBs it's generally fine. Was hopping the .32s out to a lovely distance, so that was good. Then I took the two AEG m14s up to get them through chrono as well, then I could decide which one to use. I picked up the Cyma, put the hop on and... the power took an absolute nosedive from 0.9J to 0.2J. I picked up the G&P m14, put the hop on and... same thing. Dropped from 1J to 0.3J. Fortunately, one of the local techs that I trust was around, so I spoke to him and have now given him both to have a look at. It's probably just tired o-rings or something, since the G&P is a relic and still has stock internals, and the Cyma was only available from a European warehouse so it's likely been sitting around for a while. I don't do AEG gearboxes though, so off they went to the tech. Now I need to buy another rifle bag, as that only left me with my smaller rifle bag (still fits the m14s in, but I can only bring 1 gun at the moment and no way am I turning up without a backup).

First issue I noticed was at the brief. There were a lot of regulars and they almost all went on the yellow team, so me and my friend made a point to go on blue. A few regulars also went on blue, but it wasn't a very even split. Sure, we had some experienced players on our team, but not site regulars, so while they know how to play, there were a lot who didn't know where anything was. We also lost the rental lottery, with yellow getting the hard-pushing aggressive rentals and we got the passive hide behind barricades out of the fight rentals  

Anyway, I had the HPA m14 mostly behaving, so I took that out along with my new £60 ghillie cape that I put together. It worked an absolute treat! First game we had 3 flip cans in the Tower / village area, one in the tower itself, one in front of the church structure and one in front of the stables. However, they started with 5 on each team already in a building, but here was the issue. Other team put 5 regulars in, our team had 5 rentals in and they got annihilated as soon as game was on, giving the other team a very firm foothold in the village. Moreover, we were on the rubbish side, so pushing in was an absolute pain. I managed to crawl up and take a position that I like and it happened to have an angle on the stable building where a bunch of the regulars were and I completely shut them down... Until I got shot in the back by someone on my team while I was clearly firing at the enemy. Ugh! Anyway, I went back to respawn and came back, but this time I pushed up even further, taking another spot that had vision on the back of the stables, but also had line of sight down a long path and to a few other barricades and caused some havoc from there, shutting down the back of the stables again, but also screwing with their reinforcements coming in. Game eventually ended and we lost 2 cans to 1. I have yet to see a team win from that side! Anyway, we swapped ends and it was largely uneventful for me. I managed to push to a position to cover the church can (which was enemy controlled and no way I was going to get up there to flip it) as well as the stables flip can which was controlled by us. Just sat there, plinked a few people trying to push for the stables can and the game ended with 2 cans to 1 in our favour this time. I have yet to see a team, even with the teams not amazingly balanced, win from the other side!

Next game was the sands of pain. The box was set up in the open on a table and both teams had to get to it and press down their coloured button. I was going to take a position to cover it, but basically our entire team went in that direction and me being a sneakybeaky ghillie boi today, I didn't want any of that, so I took a flank with my friend. We pushed down into a thick part of the site and my friend heard two of the regulars on the other team. He took one out, then ran out of ammo on his pp2k and got taken out by the other. I took a wide angle and... got a bit annoyed. The player he hit walked off without calling dead man, so me thinking he was either cheating or being mediced, I shot him in the back and got taken out by the same guy who took my friend out. He then told me to "watch my full auto"... on a gun that is locked to semi-auto and can't spam the trigger because the Hydra engine doesn't seem to like it and throws a tantrum at me if I do. That sweetened the sourness of the encounter a little as I always enjoy a bit of salt, especially since I knew who it was (and his gun is incredibly spammy and has a very fast full auto that he runs .36s through). Anyway, I went back to respawn and the guy who hit me got taken out when he tried to make a play, but I had a devious plan. We would go all the way around the bottom of the site and come up behind the enemy team, making sure not to spawn-camp, but shooting them in the back after they pushed down a path a bit further from their base. Unfortunately the game wasn't long enough and we couldn't get to our intended positions as the flank was long and for the last part we had to move slowly and carefully to avoid being seen. No idea what the time on the clocks were, but we swapped it around and again I intended to cover the box but everyone went that way so I went the other way. It worked out phenomenally as I pushed around to the side and lay down by a tree as I saw the bushes in the Clearing moving, so I knew someone was coming that way (ironically named now. It used to be clear, now it's a woodland killhouse). Turns out a ghillie on the other team was pushing through, but I didn't have a great shot on him. I knew he would push out because nobody on our team was watching, but he stayed for a bit. Eventually he pushed out and I got him with the mk23 and I found out at lunch time that he was literally having a piss when I saw his head moving about when he wasn't pushing out, which I found mildly hilarious ?. Fortunately, didn't see anything indecent! Anyway, after I took him out, I heard more voices from that way, so after telling some young'uns on my team who had pushed up to where I was, I crawled through a ditch to get under a holly bush and I got spotted by another regular. Fortunately there was a tiny defilade, so I managed to get low enough and crawl behind this tiny tree to the point where they couldn't hit me. I waited for a bit, then I saw my team making a big push just in front of me, so I took the opportunity to slowly raise up and shoot between the V shape in the bottom of the tree to hit the guy who was still there (the regular who had spotted me had moved on). With that taken care of, I managed to crawl a bit further and get properly under the holly bush with a line of sight down the path. I hit so many people playing around that path, including getting a few shots underneath the holly bush on the other side of the path and hitting peoples ankles. There were a good 7 or 8 people looking for me, but none of them could find me and I kept taking them out with the silent HPA m14, which had no MED, and mk23 pistol. Ah, it's moments like this that make sniping so much fun!

I decided to call it at lunch time. Don't want to push it with my heart issues still around and decided to do some testing with the HPA m14 on the range. First I tested it at 1.88J, putting it to 120psi and getting a nice 1.84 - 1.87J with every shot. I also upped the weight to .4s and set the hop and... it was sooooooooooooo good. I was aiming at the head of the 75m target and hitting just below it on where the torso would be (it's a man-sized target), and as it wasn't very windy today I was hitting that almost every shot. I was genuinely impressed; I didn't expect it to perform that well! I then put it to 1.64J (Worthing Airsoft's DMR power limit), getting 1.61 - 1.63J at about 105psi and... the difference was noticeable. I could hit the 75m target, but I was struggling a lot more. Aiming at the head of the target I was generally hitting the bottom of the tree, hearing the distinctive sound of impacting on wood compared to impacting on the metal of the target. Managed to get a few on target, but had to aim above it and arc them down. Considering on 1.1J I was hitting the 60m target with pretty much every shot, taking a 30m MED for 1.64J just isn't worth it at all. 1.88J is a different story, so that HPA m14 is going to be a Driver Wood gun as they use 1.88J as their DMR limit, but 1.64J was just lacklustre. I was super impressed with the 1.88J performance though, and the weird jamming on empty issue, while it was still present, was less of an issue with the higher psi.

I think next game day I'll bring the m40a5 with the SR-25 as a backup. With autumn well and truly here, the leaves are starting to fall and sight lines are opening up slowly. Yes, I think the staff are actively trying to dissuade snipers with how they're building up the site (one of the site owners was on one today about ghillie snipers), but heading into winter my m40a5 is going to start coming into its own.

 

[Dan Robinson]

Low turn out today at Spec Ops - less than 40 with a fair few rentals.  The blue team ended up with a lot of newbies (to the site) and skins ended up with more regulars.  The first timers were evenly split, but the end result was a little embarrassing for the blues.   They moved a few of us regulars over at lunch which made a big difference to the outcomes and made the day more fun.  Overall the smaller numbers were a benefit because it allowed the more experienced player help the first timers.  Weather and conditions  were also perfect with zero wind, gorgeous sunshine and a nice 12 degrees.

Muggins here was responsible for a fair few friendly on friendly kills - but i put that down to having teammates appearing from places I had recently spotted enemies advancing from.

I only took 4 pews - Glock 17, DE Honey Badger, ICS L85 and SVU.   The latter  of which chrono'd too low, and was pewing in a weird arc.

L85, when  powered by an 11.1 was pretty much an LMG.  But didn't like firing on semi.  Stick a 7.4 in there and it was fine, if not a little lethargic.  Either way the fecker was laser accurate up to 45 metres and with .28s was cutting through the foliage nicely halting the advances of those thinking they were hidden.  

During a stint for the blues after lunch, I was holding one of the barrels that formed the bridge.  Skins made a big push just as I suffered a dead battery.  With no time to run to the spawn where my spare was, I switched to semi and pulled out my Glock.  Problem being I knew I hadn't had a chance to gas them up at lunch; so it was a case of very carefully selected shots from the AEG and my three glock mags to cover the skins' advanced long enough for backup to come to my calls.

End result was a victory for us thanks to the backup from teammates.

Which meant too that I had great pleasure in getting the site's resident "runner" three times as he tried to push the objectives - there are a couple of regular teenagers renowned for rushing objectives so quickly that a defending team not prepared has no chance. - hence the marshalls moving me from team to team.  

LMG mode:

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Mando (regular mad sprinter) and I getting ready to extract the pilot:

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[son of dan]

Low turn out today at Spec Ops - less than 40 with a fair few rentals.  The blue team ended up with a lot of newbies (to the site) and skins ended up with more regulars.  The first timers were evenly split, but the end result was a little embarrassing for the blues.   They moved a few of us regulars over at lunch which made a big difference to the outcomes and made the day more fun.  Overall the smaller numbers were a benefit because it allowed the more experienced player help the first timers.  Weather and conditions  were also perfect with zero wind, gorgeous sunshine and a nice 12 degrees.

Muggins here was responsible for a fair few friendly on friendly kills - but i put that down to having teammates appearing from places I had recently spotted enemies advancing from.

I only took 4 pews - Glock 17, DE Honey Badger, ICS L85 and SVU.   The latter  of which chrono'd too low, and was pewing in a weird arc.

L85, when  powered by an 11.1 was pretty much an LMG.  But didn't like firing on semi.  Stick a 7.4 in there and it was fine, if not a little lethargic.  Either way the fecker was laser accurate up to 45 metres and with .28s was cutting through the foliage nicely halting the advances of those thinking they were hidden.  

During a stint for the blues after lunch, I was holding one of the barrels that formed the bridge.  Skins made a big push just as I suffered a dead battery.  With no time to run to the spawn where my spare was, I switched to semi and pulled out my Glock.  Problem being I knew I hadn't had a chance to gas them up at lunch; so it was a case of very carefully selected shots from the AEG and my three glock mags to cover the skins' advanced long enough for backup to come to my calls.

End result was a victory for us thanks to the backup from teammates.

Which meant too that I had great pleasure in getting the site's resident "runner" three times as he tried to push the objectives - there are a couple of regular teenagers renowned for rushing objectives so quickly that a defending team not prepared has no chance. - hence the marshalls moving me from team to team.  

LMG mode:

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Mando (regular mad sprinter) and I getting ready to extract the pilot:

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is that foregrip any good?

looks uncomfortable asf. 

 

[Dan Robinson]

It is surprisingly comfortable - still undecided about the looks.

Did you manage to get that Elcan for me?  It is no longer available from you linky.

 

[MrTea]

Another quality session at District 23. Went to try out my L85A2 to find that my Sotac EXPS3 wouldn't adjust low enough for the BBs to actually land within the reticule. While trying to adjust it, it seems I turned the adjustment screw way past where it should have went and broke something and it's stuck all the way down. I didn't feel any resistance or a stop... it's like it just unscrewed from whatever adjusts the reticule. Didn't want to risk it with my HW S1. That was annoying.

The issue with the height over bore being so big is that i'm literally not looking at the target when firing. To make things worse, because G&G are special, they made their version of the L85A2 outer barrel unthreaded so I can't fit a tracer to just walk my BBs onto the target and I have to use the optic. I have a smaller, and slightly lower, RMR styled 20mm RIS red dot that i'll try next time but in the mean time if any L85 owners have any suggestions, i'm all ears.

Once I realised the L85 wasn't going to be an option I changed out to my MP9 as I had such fun with it last time and this time was no different. Quality bit of kit, I think i'll be using sub-guns at indoors sites from now on as it's just so much easier to move through the tighter spaces. Trying to move around doorways with my Mk18 with the 12" handguard is a pain.

Many grenades were thrown during a game of 'main street' and the enemy team apparently had some cases of brown trousers.

 

[The Waco Kid]

 Trying to move around doorways with my Mk18 with the 12" handguard is a pain.

Eh? 
 

But isn’t 9.55 inches enough? ?

 

[Lozart]

Trying to move around doorways with my Mk18 with the 12" handguard is a pain.

But....a MK18 doesn't have a 12" handguard.

I've not played where you are but at The Mall I managed to use a 14.5" M4, a SCAR-L and even an M249 Para. Must be REALLY tight at District 23!

 

[Khyber]

Many grenades were thrown during a game of 'main street' and the enemy team apparently had some cases of brown trousers.

Love this site. My regular spot. Don't come across many forum members who play there. I too have come to conclusion that sun guns are better here. The reason I want to shorten my MWS to a CQBR length barrel. I love using the gun but its tight in there. Always a good laugh and great staff. 

I wiped out the last half of the enemy team using a frag on main street madness. Got told after that that grenades weren't allowed on that game but we still took the win with an agreed rematch then still won that too.

 

[MrTea]

But....a MK18 doesn't have a 12" handguard.

I've not played where you are but at The Mall I managed to use a 14.5" M4, a SCAR-L and even an M249 Para. Must be REALLY tight at District 23!

Eh? 
 

But isn’t 9.55 inches enough? ?

The AEG I built using the Mk18 style handguard uses the 12" handguard because I couldn't get the 10" (or 7") version at the time for love nor money so I had to use a 12". With it, I can't lean through a doorway and aim at a 90 degree angle where with the MP9 I can. Like I said sub-guns are definitely looking like the best way forward for indoors play. It doesn't bother me that much as the AEG is unbelievably good when I use it outdoors so I don't plan on changing it.

Love this site. My regular spot. Don't come across many forum members who play there. I too have come to conclusion that sun guns are better here. The reason I want to shorten my MWS to a CQBR length barrel. I love using the gun but its tight in there. Always a good laugh and great staff. 

I wiped out the last half of the enemy team using a frag on main street madness. Got told after that that grenades weren't allowed on that game but we still took the win with an agreed rematch then still won that too.

It's tight but not so much that you'd notice at first, but the doorways feel slightly thinner than they should be but without measuring it, I couldn't say

They've rethought that 'no grenades' rule on main street because it just turns into a grind fest of two people constantly tagging each other back in behind cover with no way to clear them out.

 

[The_Lord_Poncho]

To be fair, I used to exclusively use an MP5 or DE UTR smg on indoor CQB, but even then found the length of those restrictive. These days i almost exclusively use a pistol indoors - enabling getting onto target around door frames/walls etc much quicker whilst presenting less of the body for the enemy to target. And supremely satisfying at the same time!

 

[Khyber]

It's tight but not so much that you'd notice at first, but the doorways feel slightly thinner than they should be but without measuring it, I couldn't say

They've rethought that 'no grenades' rule on main street because it just turns into a grind fest of two people constantly tagging each other back in behind cover with no way to clear them out.

Yeah I agree, lots of places a long gun is fine but also lots where you're severely restricted. Good to hear about the grenade rule. Will make for a much more intense game but also more manageable. Do you ever do Sundays there? That's the day I usually play.

 

[Lozart]

With it, I can't lean through a doorway and aim at a 90 degree angle where with the MP9 I can.

That made my back hurt just reading it. Forgive me but what do you mean by lean through a doorway and shoot at 90 degrees?  90 degrees to what?

 

[Cannonfodder]

That made my back hurt just reading it. Forgive me but what do you mean by lean through a doorway and shoot at 90 degrees?  90 degrees to what?

I think he means that if someone is against the wall next to a doorway it's easier to learn through the doorway and get a shot off at them with a pistol or SMG than with a longer rifle/carbine. For example in the picture below (yes, I know I've got no artistic ability) the green is the shooter and red is the target. Here as green leans through the doorway they can have the pistol up and ready to fire as they move rather than having to manoeuvre the muzzle round the door frameView attachment 117943

 

[MrTea]

Yeah I agree, lots of places a long gun is fine but also lots where you're severely restricted. Good to hear about the grenade rule. Will make for a much more intense game but also more manageable. Do you ever do Sundays there? That's the day I usually play.

Sometimes when my shift rota allows. Recently it's been the Wednesday or Friday nights. I've only been to one or two Sunday sessions.

That made my back hurt just reading it. Forgive me but what do you mean by lean through a doorway and shoot at 90 degrees?  90 degrees to what?

I worded it poorly, let me try again. I walk to a doorway and I know there's another player to my right hugging the wall on the outside of the building. He's on my right at a 90 degree angle from me. With the AEG I built, it's so long I cannot have it shouldered and aimed forward and move through the doorway at the same time while aiming at the player, even when putting the stock over my shoulder (or under my arm) to reduce the length. I have to change to a high or low ready which takes the gun off target. With the MP9 I can keep it aimed forward and move through the doorway already aiming where the player is.

Basically rifle too long, wont fit through doorway while horizontal. MP9 short, fits fine.

It would appear that cannonfodders impressive artistic interpretation has got it covered.