Someone doesn't like UKARA, or here we go again

[Adolf Hamster]

I have to wonder why sites would not be UKARA registered

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Best i can make out, either being too new/small or apathy. A common case is [generic outdoor activity centre] hosts an airsoft game, then gradually becomes more and more an airsoft focused site until finally getting around to registering.

As for the “normie” border agents, I suspect that airsoft imports are a relatively tiny part of their workload, so it is not surprising that they focus on what is by far the most common way of providing a defence.

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Absolutely, tbh its testament to ukara that its successful enough to be known in those circles at all.

Feels like its something border agents get one bullet point in an orientation presentation with the rest of the slide being rules for actual guns.

 

[GiantKiwi]

I have to wonder why sites would not be UKARA registered.

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Concerningly the most common I've seen is lack of appropriate PLI. Which given the nature of things, is a baseline minimum for running anything involving the public, but it seems people running them think they can do without.

 

[novioman]

Border Force accept Sportsman Association membership as well as UKARA for importation of RIF’s.

 

[Anonymoose]

Concerningly the most common I've seen is lack of appropriate PLI. Which given the nature of things, is a baseline minimum for running anything involving the public, but it seems people running them think they can do without.

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I had to have PLI for a (very) small transport company. In case some randomer stepped onto one of my vans and then fell off. Running an airsoft site without it is a huge risk.

 

[Colin Allen]

Concerningly the most common I've seen is lack of appropriate PLI. Which given the nature of things, is a baseline minimum for running anything involving the public, but it seems people running them think they can do without.

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Which reflects my view of some (many?) people who run airsoft sites.

 

[Lyndication]

Yeah a local site here had no UKARA for ages. They said UKARA was actually down for a bit. Went to other sites and found out it was a lie.

Later they end up shutting their doors. Shame, the land was great with some decent built up areas and it was right near me. It was just mishandled and ran out of money.

But yeah looking at German F marks, Dutch NABV, or Norwegian players clubs makes me happy UKARA is so hands off. The NABV in particular has an annual fee and dictates national rules for what BB weight you're allowed to use and even what models of gun can be a DMR.

I'm no fan of "yeah it's a short M4 but it's got a scope so DMR m8" but I'm also glad we don't have a central committee making the choice for us all lmao.

 

[LMKipper]

Yeah a local site here had no UKARA for ages. They said UKARA was actually down for a bit. Went to other sites and found out it was a lie.

Later they end up shutting their doors. Shame, the land was great with some decent built up areas and it was right near me. It was just mishandled and ran out of money.

But yeah looking at German F marks, Dutch NABV, or Norwegian players clubs makes me happy UKARA is so hands off. The NABV in particular has an annual fee and dictates national rules for what BB weight you're allowed to use and even what models of gun can be a DMR.

I'm no fan of "yeah it's a short M4 but it's got a scope so DMR m8" but I'm also glad we don't have a central committee making the choice for us all lmao.

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Wait, in Norway I can join a committee to regulate what other players get to use? SIGN ME UP

All jokes aside, I was around when UKARA was being formulated (during the war...). Honestly I think it's an absolute miracle it got as far as it did and we all owe a huge debt of gratitude to the people who managed it. We could all be stuck with two-tones.

However... competition breeds innovation. I'm all for it. Good luck to them I say.