Second Sniper Rifle....

[sonofsammo]

I've been running an SRS for a while now and am sat bored to tears in lockdown, wondering what to do with myself.
So I'm wondering about building a second sniper, that's predominantly lightweight, but still capable of reaching out and touching someone at a decent range.
I suppose main priorities would be low weight, low noise and decent range.
Any suggestions or pertinent advice would be most welcome.
TIA ? 

 

[Lokai]

My JG Bar 10 is extremely light (less than an arp-9) if you like the vsr design and obviously an ideal base to upgrade.

 

[Asomodai]

Well MB02. Short, but the ideal length to lift some heavy ammo. Fits AP parts and the typical ML Hop stuff. Its the practical choice. 

 

[Steveocee]

Clearly no discussion here. VSR10 and enjoy the long haul project.

 

[PopRocket123]

I've been eyeing up the CYMA Cm700 for a while. Fully VSR compatible apart from a weird dual adjustment hop similar to the SRS

 

[AK47frizzle]

MK23 dmr does wonders. Depends on your site though. Some allow 500 fps for dmrs, others 420, others 400 etc. Overall, I guess a bolt action is more readily usable since they all have the unanimous 500 fps limit. That being said... Ares striker as03  There are also more interesting options like the golden eagle vanquish 

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

Novoritch new  mk23 DMR looks interesting

 

[Impulse]

VSR10, whether that means JG BAR10, CM.701 or TM VSR10. My VSR is incredibly lightweight, performs like a dream and I'm even doing a 2nd one and HPAing it xD

I may be a bit biased...

 

[Skara]

I'd say Mk23 in a carbine kit.

Stupid quiet, stupid range (for the energy output), stupid consistency. Stupid weight too being mostly plastic.

Nov's carbine would've been great if he made a conversion kit for an existing pistol rather than being a standalone gun.

Another option would be the VSR, take a look at Blind Sniper on YouTube, his vsr build is crazy. Avoid Well though, they have some proprietary parts.

I mean, look at this 

Striker: it's quite heavy (even the 02 is) and needs upgrades right off the box unless you go for a 03/Kneecapper, but then you're very limited in power output due to the extremely short barrel. It's fine for a 1J build, but getting the thing to shoot at 2.2J imo is just a waste of money.

Yet another option, Tanaka/KJW gas guns.

 

[Impulse]

Another option would be the VSR, take a look at Blind Sniper on YouTube, his vsr build is crazy.

This is literally what I'm doing. Wolverine bolt looks really nice, and being able to do spring, HPA and CO2 all in one rifle is a really flexible platform. Just need to find a good rifle stock pouch to hold the HPA tank...

 

[Adolf Hamster]

This is literally what I'm doing. Wolverine bolt looks really nice, and being able to do spring, HPA and CO2 all in one rifle is a really flexible platform. Just need to find a good rifle stock pouch to hold the HPA tank...

mate of mine has one of those, if silence is what you're after then that's just the ticket.

if you're running co2 shouldn't be too tricky to get the tank inside the buttstock, otherwise you're probably as well off just running external.

 

[sonofsammo]

MK23 dmr does wonders. Depends on your site though. Some allow 500 fps for dmrs, others 420, others 400 etc. Overall, I guess a bolt action is more readily usable since they all have the unanimous 500 fps limit. That being said... Ares striker as03  There are also more interesting options like the golden eagle vanquish 

I've got an MK23 carbine, but I got bored of it - I prefer using the mk23 as a pistol ? cos peeps faces when they get hit by it at distance is worth it!
Then again, maybe I should revisit it...

I like the m700, but it's too heavy for a lightweight build.

I might check the JG out @Lokai - what's it like for build quality etc? And what are the mags like for fit? I had an A&K M24 and the mags were a bugger in the magwell...

 

 

[sonofsammo]

JG ordered. I already have a 455 pdi barrel I can stick in, somewhere.
Now I just need to look at what else to stick in there ?

 

[Lokai]

JG ordered. I already have a 455 pdi barrel I can stick in, somewhere.
Now I just need to look at what else to stick in there ?

Good choice, the stock has a really nice rubber feel to it, great for the money. 

In mine:

• Action Army 6.01mm Inner barrel for TM VSR-10 (500mm)       
  
• Action Army M150 Spring for TM VSR-10       
  
•  Action Army Smart Hop Up Chamber for Marui VSR-10 
  
• Action Army Spring Guide VSR-10          
  
• Action Army VSR-10 Barrel Spacer Kit
  
• Action Army VSR10 Zero Trigger Upgrade Kit
  
• Madbull VSR-10 Sniper Accelerator Hop Up Bucking (2 Pack)       
  
• Action Army VSR-10 Fluted Outer barrel              
  
• Action Army VSR-10 CNC Steel bolt handle black              
  
• Action Army Extended Scope Rail for VSR10 / M700 Airsoft Sniper Rifles
  
• Maple Leaf VSR-10 Enlarged Magazine Catch      
  
• PDI Ezy Vacuum (VC) Spring Guide for VSR-10    
  
• Action Army Twisted Cylinder Kit for VSR-10 / T10           
  

 

[sonofsammo]

Good choice, the stock has a really nice rubber feel to it, great for the money. 

In mine:

• Action Army 6.01mm Inner barrel for TM VSR-10 (500mm)       
  
• Action Army M150 Spring for TM VSR-10       
  
•  Action Army Smart Hop Up Chamber for Marui VSR-10 
  
• Action Army Spring Guide VSR-10          
  
• Action Army VSR-10 Barrel Spacer Kit
  
• Action Army VSR10 Zero Trigger Upgrade Kit
  
• Madbull VSR-10 Sniper Accelerator Hop Up Bucking (2 Pack)       
  
• Action Army VSR-10 Fluted Outer barrel              
  
• Action Army VSR-10 CNC Steel bolt handle black              
  
• Action Army Extended Scope Rail for VSR10 / M700 Airsoft Sniper Rifles
  
• Maple Leaf VSR-10 Enlarged Magazine Catch      
  
• PDI Ezy Vacuum (VC) Spring Guide for VSR-10    
  
• Action Army Twisted Cylinder Kit for VSR-10 / T10           
  

Holy shitballs Batman!
That's a lot of upgrades!
What range are you getting from that little lot?

 

[Impulse]

mate of mine has one of those, if silence is what you're after then that's just the ticket.

if you're running co2 shouldn't be too tricky to get the tank inside the buttstock, otherwise you're probably as well off just running external.

Yeah, that's the plan. Might just go CO2 because fitting it all in the stock will be the best outcome and I'm sure CO2 will work in the cold, just need to adjust the power on the regulator. (I'm assuming. I'm new to gas outside of pistols)

Good choice, the stock has a really nice rubber feel to it, great for the money. 

In mine:

• Action Army 6.01mm Inner barrel for TM VSR-10 (500mm)       
  
• Action Army M150 Spring for TM VSR-10       
  
•  Action Army Smart Hop Up Chamber for Marui VSR-10 
  
• Action Army Spring Guide VSR-10          
  
• Action Army VSR-10 Barrel Spacer Kit
  
• Action Army VSR10 Zero Trigger Upgrade Kit
  
• Madbull VSR-10 Sniper Accelerator Hop Up Bucking (2 Pack)       
  
• Action Army VSR-10 Fluted Outer barrel              
  
• Action Army VSR-10 CNC Steel bolt handle black              
  
• Action Army Extended Scope Rail for VSR10 / M700 Airsoft Sniper Rifles
  
• Maple Leaf VSR-10 Enlarged Magazine Catch      
  
• PDI Ezy Vacuum (VC) Spring Guide for VSR-10    
  
• Action Army Twisted Cylinder Kit for VSR-10 / T10           
  

JG is, I will admit, better than the TM overall. TM sling mounts feel more solid, but JG stock is better and I'd go as far as saying the cylinder is better because you don't have to drill it to open it. Action Army is one way to go. Personally, I went Laylax in my spring one (edgi barrel), because I wanted the Springer Custom Works S-trigger, piston and spring guide in mine and I know that's compatible with Laylax. Plus, I'm a long time airsofter and back in my day the only choices were PDI or Laylax, so I'm biased. Also, I went Maple Leaf in my new one I will HPA because I wanted to experiment with different makes. However, I can't praise the Action Army hop up chamber enough. Quality upgrade part and I will never have a VSR without one now.

 

[Lokai]

Holy shitballs Batman!
That's a lot of upgrades!
What range are you getting from that little lot?

Only as far as my garden at the moment got it just as lockdown kicked in!

Using the action army 50 round mags btw, fit and feed perfectly, the jg ones seemed a bit ropey. 

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Yeah, that's the plan. Might just go CO2 because fitting it all in the stock will be the best outcome and I'm sure CO2 will work in the cold, just need to adjust the power on the regulator. (I'm assuming. I'm new to gas outside of pistols)

co2 isn't normally the kind of thing i'd look into, but then my main focus is assault guns and you just can't get the shot volume. however sniping has no such problem.

it'll work just fine in the cold, think a co2 mk23 and you aint far off.

theres kits like this: https://www.powair6.com/en/hpa-stock/4978-wolverine-wraith-co2-adapter.html

which attach to a normal regulator, mancraft would specialise in bolt gun kits so might be worth looking at their stuff.