Second hand aeg

[Jez_Armstrong]

At 40+ per year, how many have been used for more than (or even as much as) a day's play? ?

What does that matter? I obviously don't have a 800+ gun collection in my shed, they things I purchase I service and flip 

You're thinking longevity, not second hand sale condition 

 

[Impulse]

This is why I don't tend to sell my guns on forums, even though I would like to slim my collection down a whole lot since I don't use most of them and generally stick to the same handful; including my pistols (I tend towards MED guns so they're important!) across both regular play and Vietnam filmsim, I use 16 of my 41 guns, and of those I only use about 10 of them regularly. I spend a lot of time and money tweaking my guns to as near to perfection as I can, but people online don't know for sure that it works well, nor should they take the word of an internet stranger at face value. I think I'd sell face to face where the person can take it to the range and see how it performs.

That said, all of the guns I've bought 2nd hand from here have been fantastic or exactly as advertised, however I've generally only bought near stock, stock, or boneyard stuff that I then take away and tweak and fiddle with myself, as I don't trust most people's teching abilities. I've seen far too many horror stories of people buying "fully upgraded" guns that shoot about 40m and then die half way through the first game day of usage.

 

[Rogerborg]

You're thinking longevity, not second hand sale condition 

Er... yes. Yes, that's my point. That if you buy a "just tried in garden once" used gun, it could have had 30 rounds through it, or 30,000. It might work without trouble for another 30,000, or fail after 30.

Not a problem for those of us who accrue more than we use, rotate through them, and/or tinker. But for someone looking get a first gun, my assumption is that they'd want to maximise the chances of it lasting long enough to break it themselves while uPgRaDiNg it.

 

[Jez_Armstrong]

So you count the amount of rounds your gun uses before you sell it on? 

I've seen brand new guns fail out of the box, you can't guarantee when a gun will break even after a service, we're literally relying on parts build by the manufacturer with sometimes shocking QC levels 

As for someone buying their first gun, the obvious answer is buy from a UK store new and have a warranty ?

 

[Cannonfodder]

Yeah that's you, I would buy it because I know how to fix stuff, but personally, of the 800+ second hand guns I've purchased over 20 years, I can't think of a single issue I've had with a second hand sale, maybe one less mag or an optic wasn't included when there is a photo of one but it wasn't in the description is the most I can think of but the horror stories that pop up, like I say, 800+ second hand sales purchased, can't think of an issue 

Maybe I can fix stuff, I just don't want the extra hassle of fixing faults on a supposedly working gun as I buy them to use not just hang on a wall or sell on. I've had this more than once (fortunately not here) so I suppose it's a case of once bitten twice shy

 

[Anonymoose]

As for someone buying their first gun, the obvious answer is buy from a UK store new and have a warranty ?

I'd agree with this. It's why i bought 3 new TM NGRSs, changed the barrels and hop rubbers and called it good.

They have accessories on the outside, nothing else changed inside. The guns' performance far exceeds my shooting ability.

Maybe I can fix stuff, I just don't want the extra hassle of fixing faults on a supposedly working gun as I buy them to use.

I agree with this too. And if you're buying your first gun i'd say it's safe to assume you're not going to be well-versed in teching so really you want something pretty reliable. Yes, brand new guns can fail too, but that's probably less likely than one that's been messed with.

 

[Galvatron]

What new AEG would you recommend? For around the same price range.

Assuming that you're still looking at the AR-15 platform, may we ask what you think you'll get at £400 on an AEG that you won't get at £300, £250 or £200 for argument's sake?

It's your money to spend of course though Rogerborg brought up a really good point about certain feature sets coming down to the masses. I got back into airsoft just as saw the market really being disrupted with programmable MOSFETs/ETUs and <=6.03mm inner barrels coming as standard with AEGs well below £250 (and even below £200 for that matter). I would argue the point of diminishing returns has become more apparent since then.

 

[Rogerborg]

certain feature sets coming down to the masses

Yup. Specna Arms CORE HAL gets you a well featured fire control system, rotary hop and QC spring and an aluminium handguard, starting at just £130.   I'd suggest analysing the reasons why you'd need or want to spend more than that, e.g. to get a pot-metal receiver, or a stainless barrel, or spinnier motor (both of which are simple swaps).

You can drag a gun through the SHS parts catalogue, but the extra performance you'll get over a modern stock gun starts to tail off pretty rapidly.