Quick Questions & Simple Answers.

[ImTriggerHappy]

I got the A1 because it was listed as the balence motor, I'll recheck when I get a chance.

- Ant

Yeah I got caught out with that before a1 balanced/a2 high torque/a3 high speed but its actually the tpa that counts not the description. Although the a1 is listed as high speed & high torque on some websites.
I use this list

http://ewairsoft.com/index.php/forum/47-aeg-aep/9337-motor-tpa-information-and-estimated-tpa

According to that the a1 has lower tpa so is faster than the a3 that is listed as high speed. I found it after having overspin problems with an A1 I bought.

Of course that list could be wrong as well but I generally just use the a2 I only tried the a1 and a3 once but wasn't overly impressed by either.

Its a bit confusing with lonex but I prefer the asg motors over lonex lately.

Edit; Just found this

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[Trisnpod]

me personally - get a £30 or so green gas non-blow-back pistol and tear his ar$e up with quick bursts

(please wear good eye-pro ffs)

What kind of range would that get? And why gas not electric?

 

[Samurai]

What kind of range would that get? And why gas not electric?

A good, upgraded TM MK23 can shoot a human target multiple times at 80m. This was on a range built in a hangar for airsoft accuracy and range testing.

 

[Sico]

Does anyone have a discount code for specwarefare ?

 

[Sitting Duck]

don't get co2 pistol, often too hot to use

electric pistol like a cyma glock aep is popular but often only 200fps

gas guns are normally what most use work well except in really really cold conditions

mags hold about 20-25 bb's, no need to buy £75+ blowback when there are some decent non-blowbacks about

often popular models are MK23 @ about £45 or GG-104 or GG-105 m92 type for around £30

(green gas req, can use propane if people really use their pistols a lot but reckon you will be ok with can of Green Gas)

think you will be quite happy with its performance for a low price

 

[Sitting Duck]

Its a bit confusing with lonex but I prefer the asg motors over lonex lately.

Edit; Just found this

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Often wondered if any sad bastid techy - don't look at me as I don't think of myself as a techy.....

if anybody took a bunch of neodym motors, set them up into a drill for example running at xxxx rpm

then checked out the juice being generated.....

compile a list of various motors out there and might give a rough indication of the perfect so called balance of speed/torque ???

Faster motors will generate more heat and draw more juice

Torquey motors pull trains but run slower

Saddo's look into the tpa more but this alone - output can vary quite a bit depending on wire thickness used, build quality and strength of magnets

So even unwinding a dead motor to check all tpa n crap it can still vary a considerable bit

Hence just wondering by conducting some tests in effect using half a dozen neo motors as generators - what the output would be for a decent balance ???

Faster motors would in "theory" generate lower volts than torque motors running as generators at same rpm speed

(well you would tend to think this sounds about right)

Then "maybe" it might be possible to make a quick comparison out of the (gear)box of other motors

Obviously real test is just to "suck it & see" but might give a rough ball-park guide to a new motor to test

But you might be identify motor performance a little by how it functions in reverse operation

thus arriving at a good all round figure of X volts being produced at X rpm - but this is just free running with no load but all the same could produce a variety of results depending on the range of motors tested

Think I need to get out a little bit more though

(or start up an Open University course of OTT Airsoft Engineering)

 

[Trisnpod]

don't get co2 pistol, often too hot to use

electric pistol like a cyma glock aep is popular but often only 200fps

gas guns are normally what most use work well except in really really cold conditions

mags hold about 20-25 bb's, no need to buy £75+ blowback when there are some decent non-blowbacks about

often popular models are MK23 @ about £45 or GG-104 or GG-105 m92 type for around £30

(green gas req, can use propane if people really use their pistols a lot but reckon you will be ok with can of Green Gas)

think you will be quite happy with its performance for a low price

Ok I'll look at getting a gas pistol then as all the £30-40 shotguns I can find seem to be only single shot. How much does a gas gun cost to run - how many mag reloads would you get out of a can of green gas? And however much I'd like that tm mk23 it's a little out of my budget at £120 so what kind of range can you get out of a £30-40 pistol?

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

so what kind of range can you get out of a £30-40 pistol?

Depends how good your throwing arm is.

 

[Trojan]

Ok I'll look at getting a gas pistol then as all the £30-40 shotguns I can find seem to be only single shot. How much does a gas gun cost to run - how many mag reloads would you get out of a can of green gas? And however much I'd like that tm mk23 it's a little out of my budget at £120 so what kind of range can you get out of a £30-40 pistol?

You could pick up a used TM pistol for £50-80 depending on how good your haggling skills are.

 

[Trisnpod]

often popular models are MK23 @ about £45 or GG-104 or GG-105 m92 type for around £30(green gas req, can use propane if people really use their pistols a lot but reckon you will be ok with can of Green Gas)

Would this https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/y-p-ggh0303b-heckler-and-koch-usp-replica-gas-powered-airsoft-pistol.html not be better with the adjustable hop Up?I know it's bbguns for less in that link I wouldn't necessarily get it from them, that's just where I've found it first.

 

[Trisnpod]

Forgot to add this to last post:

You could pick up a used TM pistol for £50-80 depending on how good your haggling skills are.

Where can you get guns second hand? I've looked on eBay but it doesn't look like people can sell them there.

 

[Sitting Duck]

this might be better:

https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/y-p-gg-105-beretta-92-replica-gas-pistol-in-blue.html

mags are gg-104 - gun pictured is in fact a 104
the 105 has a small rail underneath
they are SRC's rebranded as Stti, HFC or others like Y&P

The important thing before buying stuff is check availability of spare mags...
No point buying a gun and can't get another mag if you lose/break the mag, seals can leak but can be repaired (o-ring)

mags are gg-104 and go in both the gg-104 & 105
there is a co2 version - gc-105, exact same gun just comes with a co2 bulb mag instead of green gas mag
all interchangeable so in effect you can buy gc-105 & gg-104 and swap the mags about blah blah blah blah blah blah

but spare gg-104 mags can be bought reasonably cheap and do exist - rare for cheap guns but they do crop up now n then:

http://www.taiwangun.com/en/gas-pistol-magazines/m9-magazine-stti

if you had ukara:

http://www.taiwangun.com/en/gas-4/m92f-m9-heavy-weight-gas-pistol-replica-stti?from=listing&campaign-id=19
or
http://www.taiwangun.com/en/gas-4/m92f-m9-vertical-heavy-weight-gas-pistol-stti?from=listing&campaign-id=19
or mk23:
http://www.taiwangun.com/en/gas-4/mk23-heavy-weight-gas-pistol-stti?from=listing&campaign-id=19

or go nutz and get a WE Glock full auto for £75:

http://www.landwarriorairsoft.com/airsoft-rifles-c38/pistols-c42/we-airsoft-europe-eu18-gen-3-tan-p3602

get what you want or can afford, check out if you can get a spare mag if possible
but end of day £30 for a cheapy pistol is fine, heck I wasted a lot more at JBBG / BBGuns4Less and got little use out of it before it broke to pieces - so even a £30 pistol and bin it if it goes pear shape - it is hardly getting mugged over like many of us have been from BB sites

 

[Trojan]

Do you think you could shave drill motor brushes to fit into AEG motors?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-Drill-Motor-15-x-10-x-5mm-Carbon-Brushes-20-Pcs-/290961128182?hash=item43bea27af6:g:GgsAAOSwT5tWF3Q2

 

[Sitting Duck]

Do you think you could shave drill motor brushes to fit into AEG motors?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electric-Drill-Motor-15-x-10-x-5mm-Carbon-Brushes-20-Pcs-/290961128182?hash=item43bea27af6:g:GgsAAOSwT5tWF3Q2

Hmmmm uhmmm erghhh yeah I guess it can be done

but tbh if when/brushes wear out - that is when you raid the old lame stock ferrite motors

(always wondered why brushes had such thin copper strands carrying the current to them but truth be told the whole of the motor's terminal is live anyway but did wonder if a thicker copper lead/strand would help conduct more juice to actual brushes - after running the wires in 16awg with as few joins as possible to reduce any possible resistance)

if people wanna go nutz they can recut the communator after a couple of brush replacements

rebuild frankentorque motors with neodym magnets:

http://www.firestormsystems.com/shop/gearbox-parts/custom-n52-aeg-motor-magnets.html

nice basic non-ab mosfets btw:

http://www.firestormsystems.com/shop/electronics/mosfet-switch.html

anyway back on track - yes suppose you could rebuild and customise/repair motors

but tbh - often I'd just buy another £20 to £30 neodym and be done with it

I spend way too much time tinkering than getting out and playing

 

[Josh95]

anyone used ASG Midcaps?

they're very cheap so I'm a bit dubious

 

[Sitting Duck]

ASG / Armalite's 85 or 120rnd mid caps:

They are very popular midcaps and work in most guns

(M4's I mean - taking the pi$$ if you expect them to work in AK's)

10 x 120/140 rnd mags for about £50 is worth a shot

easy to flogg on in case your gun doesn't like them

Ok grey or tan plastic mags but wtf do ya expect for the price

do work very well for most people - but like many mags there is always a few guns that may not like them

though think in general most M4's will love them

 

[Sacarathe]

anyone used ASG Midcaps?

they're very cheap so I'm a bit dubious

140rd M4? Work great!

 

[Josh95]

ok ill get some 5.99... bargain

 

[Sacarathe]

ok ill get some 5.99... bargain

Where do they cost that much?

 

[djben9]

was going to ask the same!....oh and if ok for ICS aegs as well??

Edit..

ok ive found them