New hpa gun in the pipeline

[joshcowin]

So as I play paintball as well as airsoft I’ve heard the one of the manufacturers has applied for a patent to make a hpa airsoft gun. Now if you haven’t heard of planet Eclipse they make the most reliable paintball guns as well as probably the most efficient.

what does this mean for airsoft? Well if they can make a airsoft gun like they do with paintball guns then they will be onto a winner. I will keep people updated as I find out more 

 

[proffrink]

I'd be surprised if they can make a more competitive or significantly more air efficient than the electric solenoid stuff out there, but let's see

Is this a full gun or a drop-in replacement kit?

 

[Adolf Hamster]

so we're talking a tippmann competitor?

competition is always good for prices, so i'll take those odds.

 

[Lozart]

The Tippmann M4 looks like an actual RIF

 

[joshcowin]

I'd be surprised if they can make a more competitive or significantly more air efficient than the electric solenoid stuff out there, but let's see

Is this a full gun or a drop-in replacement kit?

Well they have been making solenoid markers for a long time now and they keep getting more efficient each time so it will be good to se what they can do. As for full gun or drop in im not sure

 

[E21A]

The Tippmann M4 looks like an actual RIF 

Cos it’ll be designed be people make paintball guns, and paintball guns don’t look like real guns. So there’s potential for them to not feel the need to stick with a realistic looking gun? 

 

[M_P]

Cos it’ll be designed be people make paintball guns, and paintball guns don’t look like real guns. So there’s potential for them to not feel the need to stick with a realistic looking gun? 

It'd surprise me, basic market research would tell them not to do so

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

The Tippmann M4 looks like an actual RIF so why wouldn't it?

Cos it’ll be designed be people make paintball guns, and paintball guns don’t look like real guns. So there’s potential for them to not feel the need to stick with a realistic looking gun? 

Tippman make paintball guns but they still made.a realistic looking gun.

Personally I couldn't care less because if ever I decide to go hpa I will buy the best performing one even if it looks like a nerf gun.

 

[Tommikka]

Not all Paintball guns look like Paintball guns.

Tippman is an obvious one, as they have made guns styled on real guns from the outset.  They recognise that the rental and casual player probably want a gun that looks like a gun.  There are many Tippmanns out on rental sites that are hired out as an ‘upgrade’ to a ‘machine gun’ or ‘sniper’

Paintball guns have evolved to look like Paintball guns because they are not limited by the physics of real ammunition but are free to be ergonomically fine tuned in their size, shape and weight.

There are not only people in airsoft who want realistic guns but they exist in Paintball too. Either because they think that’s what a gun should look like or they are of the magfed/milsim persuasion like airsofters.  There has been a core milsim Paintball community since i began and this has grown with the availability of realistic magfed guns

The classic tippman range is mostly mechanical/pneumatic, and are highly reliable, but are not as efficient as optimised low pressure “speedball” guns

I was on one of the live streams this weekend at Paintfest/airfest when Soho52 interviewed Paul of GI Sports on Tippmann tech support.  He was working on one of our pistols which blew a valve seal while we ran the killhouse which was an easy fix, but having dismantled to do the fix he found the condition inside.  This was an original 2009 TPX pistol which hadn’t had the insides touched in nearly a decade.

This reliability turned a one minute fix into a complete free full service, clean and rebuild 

Planet Eclipse are one of the market leaders and have very reliable electro/pneumatic solenoid guns.  They look like paintball guns but are also the only “speedball” manufacturer to sell a “tactical” body kit for their guns

They are also a British company who have been innovating in Paintball since 1991.  This should be a good thing for airsoft HPA.

There is relatively little to the functioning parts of an electro pneumatic Paintball gun and they can be dropped into virtually any body you can think of.  Make it launch a 6mm ball rather than a 0.68” ball and then it becomes easier.

I’ve even seen a glove/gauntlet paintball gun in use.

 

[Lozart]

Cos it’ll be designed be people make paintball guns, and paintball guns don’t look like real guns. So there’s potential for them to not feel the need to stick with a realistic looking gun? 

That there is a paintball gun. Magfed paintball markers have been going the more "replica" looking route for a while now https://mcsus.com/products/468-ris-m4-carbine-paintball-gun-2017-model

Tippmann (of the aforementioned M4) primarily make paintball guns.

 

[M_P]

It's not a replica it's just 'inspired' by an AR-15 but it's close enough for most to not realise 

 

[Adolf Hamster]

i highly doubt this won't be a proper looking airsoft gun unless they decide to just do a drop-in kit for whatever body you choose.

why would they try and enter a new market with a product that anyone would tell them the market won't want.

 

[E21A]

That there is a paintball gun. Magfed paintball markers have been going the more "replica" looking route for a while now https://mcsus.com/products/468-ris-m4-carbine-paintball-gun-2017-model

Tippmann (of the aforementioned M4) primarily make paintball guns.

Holy mother of magazine! 

maybe they should just just grow a pair and come over to Airsoft if they want a bit more realism! ?

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Holy mother of magazine! 

maybe they should just just grow a pair and come over to Airsoft if they want a bit more realism! ?

Airsoft and realism are two very different things.

Airsoft is just hide and seek for manchilds with a bb gun.

As for grow a pair, paintball hurts way more. Airsofters who think airsoft is even close are living in a bubble. 

Much better game but also much gentler on the body.

 

[E21A]

Airsoft and realism are two very different things.

Airsoft is just hide and seek for manchilds with a bb gun.

As for grow a pair, paintball hurts way more. Airsofters who think airsoft is even close are living in a bubble. 

Much better game but also much gentler on the body.

Its called banter, maybe give it a try sometime? 

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Its called banter, maybe give it a try sometime? 

I do constantly.

 

[Gtech]

Tippmann & Valken and perfect examples of companies who are already well down this route.

I thought it was interesting that Tippmann went with AEG's this year, well - slapping their logo on some lonex kit ? But it's been good to me so far (I'm a fan of lonex)

So, I'm not surprised seeing more paintball marker creators dabble in airsoft since apart from the caliber size, we're doing the same thing.

Not sure if any of you went to/saw paintfest/airfest this weekend, but most the stalls I saw were all promoting RIF-like magfed paintball markers. It's definitely closing the differences.

 

[E21A]

I do constantly.

Well keep plugging away, you’ll get the hang of it eventually 

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Well keep plugging away, you’ll get the hang of it eventually 

I think I already have which is why I can spot the difference between banter and an uninformed comment that someone just thinks is funny.

If people want to take the piss out of paintball then there is lots of things to pick on but growing a pair is not one. Ever been shot with a paintball? Hurts far worse than a bb. 

Lots of experience in both and find it really dumb when people from either side try to one up each other, especially when they have no real experience of either.

 

[Aengus]

Let's hope it looks like an actual RIF and not a heroin fuelled water pistol!?!?

I'm guessing I'm the only one who hopes its a paintball gun that fires bbs ?

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