my first experience of cheaters with hpa guns

[Alex34]

HPA will not be used as an arguement against airsoft because just as easily an arguement can be made to just ban HPA systems from the sport.

HPA systems wont be banned because it's a frivolous act to anyone outside the sport. If the gov has issues with airsoft guns it will be because they are RIFs... not because they shoot plastic bbs at 40+rps lol.

 

[callumbagshaw]

I'm not even sure why the RPS of HPA has been brought into this....

I don't think people without tournament locks should be able to use HPA systems personally but it doesn't bother me that much.

If your parallel universe existed where HPA was banned from airsoft and RPS was a contributing factor, then how far would it go? No MOSFETs? No batteries above 7.4v? Only able to use one brand of green gas? It's all a bit silly.

 

[Sacarathe]

I'm not even sure why the RPS of HPA has been brought into this....

I don't think people without tournament locks should be able to use HPA systems personally but it doesn't bother me that much.

If your parallel universe existed where HPA was banned from airsoft and RPS was a contributing factor, then how far would it go? No MOSFETs? No batteries above 7.4v? Only able to use one brand of green gas? It's all a bit silly.

Adding to this (not disagreeing), But:

Why should HPA users be less trustworthy than any other players?

And, what reason other than incompetent staff is there to ban anything not innately dangerous.

 

[GiantKiwi]

Adding to this (not disagreeing), But:

Why should HPA users be less trustworthy than any other players?

And, what reason other than incompetent staff is there to ban anything not innately dangerous.

My biggest concern with other new HPA users, is their reluctance to get their tanks hydrotested yearly, or when buying 2nd hand - completely oblivious to the fact that they've effectively got a bomb on their person if it fails catastrophically whilst under pressure.

 

[proffrink]

HPA users are some of the least educated on their equipment that I've seen. The ease of it means that anyone with a fair amount of spare cash can get into it quickly, and like you say the correct procedures are rarely followed. Hydrotesting, keeping your regulator lubed, not using oil-based lubricants anywhere etc.

It's only a matter of time before someone loses their spine to a cheap, untested tank. It's happened in paintball.

 

[sp00n]

My biggest concern with other new HPA users, is their reluctance to get their tanks hydrotested yearly, or when buying 2nd hand - completely oblivious to the fact that they've effectively got a bomb on their person if it fails catastrophically whilst under pressure.

Under European directives It's every 2.5years for a visual, 5 years for a hydrostatic test on big cylinders, 2years visual and 4year hydrostatic on small 0.5l cylinders >>>> http://www.ukdivers.net/equipment/cylinders.htm

 

[callumbagshaw]

Adding to this (not disagreeing), But:

Why should HPA users be less trustworthy than any other players?

And, what reason other than incompetent staff is there to ban anything not innately dangerous.

it's not that by using HPA you immediately become less trustworthy, it's just that it is MUCH easier to increase your power straight after a chrono test just by upping your PSI on the regulator.

 

[Sacarathe]

it's not that by using HPA you immediately become less trustworthy, it's just that it is MUCH easier to increase your power straight after a chrono test just by upping your PSI on the regulator.

Ah, this is so circular, lol.

 

[PT247]

My ASG Evo3 I could change the spring in under 2min so probably just as easily as I could up the fps on my GHK G5 when it was on HPA..... ban all airsoft guns I say! ;-)

 

[GiantKiwi]

Under European directives It's every 2.5years for a visual, 5 years for a hydrostatic test on big cylinders, 2years visual and 4year hydrostatic on small 0.5l cylinders >>>> http://www.ukdivers.net/equipment/cylinders.htm

And yet, most UK dive centres get their bottles tested yearly. Because safety is always the primary concern, and testing costs almost nothing.

 

[proffrink]

What's your point? Still costs about £30-50 (depending on your shop) as a customer. Sure if I were certified I'd probably inspect it every year for myself, but I don't think most airsofters are. Heh.

 

[sp00n]

They probably have to do it for insurance purposes, like if they hire out kit etc