my first experience of cheaters with hpa guns

[Bencupra]

So it should be 270 on .28s is that right?

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Really I told them it was 28s and he said don't engage at close range so I said ok didn't say it was over. So what should it be on 28s? And I can dial it down for next game. Need to get myself a chrono.

Its difficult to say for definite but I usually find its about 55fps difference between 0.2 and 0.28. But it can vary between types of gun and how they are set up.

 

[Bencupra]

I'll have to have a play around with it on the chrono and see what it is. Was the first time using it. I've got the flow restrictor aswell as people had trouble getting them under without it will get it sorted before next game.

 

[Hudson]

It should be about 295fps on .28s, iirc.

 

[Bencupra]

Cheers mate I'll take the Allen key to the chrono with me on Sunday and turn the old girl down.

 

[mimozine]

thanks for the replies guys. glad its not just me thinking their a bunch of muppets,

 

[Sacarathe]

thanks for the replies guys. glad its not just me thinking their a bunch of muppets,

So, really the thread title should be about the arses the thread is about and not HPA, throwing fuel on the HPA hate fire?

 

[proffrink]

I'd hate to speak on OPs behalf, but maybe it's possible he was just frustrated at having his day ruined? Hopefully his opinion of the site and players is now slightly more disconnected from his opinion of HPA, but it's a bit unfair to go after him about his title.

 

[Sacarathe]

So, really the thread title should be about the arses the thread is about and not HPA, throwing fuel on the HPA hate fire?

I'd hate to speak on OPs behalf, but maybe it's possible he was just frustrated at having his day ruined? Hopefully his opinion of the site and players is now slightly more disconnected from his opinion of HPA, but it's a bit unfair to go after him about his title.

Aye given my usual gusto about titles, I can see that my post could be presumed to be a suggestion. Nothing wrong with the title, just wondering if the OP is willing to concede it's the people not the tools. I simply meant that, as you have indicated, the OP might want to clarify post 46 on whether he gets that HPA is not the problem.

It's like comparing gas and electric cookers and saying I don't like electric cookers because I burn my tongue on the food more often.

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Aye given my usual gusto about titles, I can see that my post could be presumed to be a suggestion. Nothing wrong with the title, just wondering if the OP is willing to concede it's the people not the tools. I simply meant that, as you have indicated, the OP might want to clarify post 46 on whether he gets that HPA is not the problem.

It's like comparing gas and electric cookers and saying I don't like electric cookers because I burn my tongue on the food more often.

How about the fact that the biggest nobs who overshoot and generally take the piss are drawn to hpa?
Its not that hpa is the problem its just that it has become the weapon of choice for the wrong sort of players and that rep is now starting to tar all those who use it correctly.

 

[MrMcG]

How about the fact that the biggest nobs who overshoot and generally take the piss are drawn to hpa?

Its not that hpa is the problem its just that it has become the weapon of choice for the wrong sort of players and that rep is now starting to tar all those who use it correctly.

Agree with this,

Unfortunately the majority of my bad experiences has been with people who have HPA units, as I have said many a time I have friends that use it and use it safely.

Yet, it does seem to be the weapon of choice for the B********

 

[padraigthesniper]

Well the high endness of the hpa guns does seem to attract some of the most elitist motherfuckers going i cant quite remember the name but there was this big team in america well known for being some of the worst idiots to play with going and they were all using hpa.

 

[mimozine]

So, really the thread title should be about the arses the thread is about and not HPA, throwing fuel on the HPA hate fire?

well i suppose its mainly about the idiots, not only were they over the fps but they were ignoring hits. they were not even really that good at playing, we played two goal oriented games against them (semi auto only) and kicked their arses. its was only the full auto game where they hosed us down.

but i must say i'm not a fan of how easy it is to cheat with hpa weapons. and how the rate of fire compounds that problem.

 

[Sacarathe]

well i suppose its mainly about the idiots, not only were they over the fps but they were ignoring hits. they were not even really that good at playing, we played two goal oriented games against them (semi auto only) and kicked their arses. its was only the full auto game where they hosed us down.

but i must say i'm not a fan of how easy it is to cheat with hpa weapons. and how the rate of fire compounds that problem.

Polarstar recently put in a feature in their FCU to separate rate of fire from the mechanical aspects of rate of fire, one can now set a trigger lockout if you want a rate of fire lower than 60rpm.

It effectively means a semi-capable DMR can be made to fire at the same rate as a BASR.

 

[Fumps]

My personal opinion is that HPA could potentially be a thorn in the side of Airsoft. watching the crime bill committee debate which was posted in the UK law section of this forum. I can see HPA being used against airsoft as a valid argument.

If you have a system that can be easily modified to fire at the rates they can be & beefed up on the fly I really can see a very clever person who is skilled in the art of debate rubbing their hands with glee at this system being in existence. Especially when people just keep on posting you tube video's of the HPA system being modified to ridiculous levels.

I'm not pretending to like the HPA system. Neither do I mind who has what, but I honestly see it as a potential issue that can be used against the hobby in legal debates.

Its a shame we are in this situation in the first place but idiots are all around us & some are allowed to operate computer keyboards without the use of a helmet.

 

[Sacarathe]

I'm not pretending to like the HPA system. Neither do I mind who has what, but I honestly see it as a potential issue that can be used against the hobby in legal debates.

So how is paintball different in this regard?

 

[proffrink]

It's not easy to cheat with HPA; it's easy for site owners to be lazy and not take 5 seconds to check tournament locks. The safety measures are in there and it's your site letting you down if they're not making sure they're used.

I really hope you take this up with the marshalls and don't put the blame where nothing can be done. It'd be easy to bitch until the cows come home about how HPA makes it easy to be a bit of a knob with, but ultimately that's exactly why you're paying your money to these professionals - to keep you safe. Manufacturers have known this for years and integrate tournament locks for this very reason.

I'd also stand by the fact that RoF should be restricted, but again this is something you should take up with the site. Your money is important to them and their cronograph likely measures RoF already.

 

[Lozart]

So how is paintball different in this regard?

Paintball markers aren't considered to be RIFs so aren't covered by the vcra.

 

[Sacarathe]

Paintball markers aren't considered to be RIFs so aren't covered by the vcra.

Fumps was not talking about the VCRA.

 

[Fumps]

So how is paintball different in this regard?

Couldn't care less about Paintball