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i think i'm ready to buy my gun and it's accessories but i need someone to check them over

well there you go, sorry, had no idea thought it was one of those Chinese companies, never really said they were bad though ;) thanks for clearing that up.
No, but your reply could easily have been misinterpreted.

Just FYI, JT Sports, Dye, Sly and Proto are all decent makers of paintball masks (among other kit) that are more than acceptable for airsoft use.

 
would this mask be better?:http://www.amazon.co.uk/RHX-Airsoft-Paintball-Goggle-Protect/dp/B00AMTRTHG/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sg_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=1BS8897VXM3Y688RAHBM

i'm not sure where you got b500a1 from, my cousin owns his own https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/HFC-L85-SA80-BB-gun-airsoft-rifle-in-blue.html

i'm 16 and he's 15, so i'm sure we'll be perfectly safe, however will make sure we're supervised. what would you recommend for the rest of the body? i'm not sure i can afford an assault vest so i thought i'd just wear a thick jumper with a puffer jacket ontop and some padded jeans.

thanks for all the help
soz saw bulldog and had previously done a lengthy - very lengthy reply to somebody getting this:

https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/Bulldog-B500A1-AEG-Electric-BB-Gun-Airsoft-Rifle.html

anyway - your bulldog is a rebadged SRC Dragon - not bad, but gerbox is plastic casing and

inside no bushings - won't last long and trigger is crap will come apart if gears don't shag 1st

can also be a bit hot - 350+fps - well mine is plus barrel is a tad pi$$ed so shoots slightly off

unless you really adjust sights to extreme left to compensate - jeez wot crap build

and the "proper" M4 SRC's aren't built a hell of a lot better - but they make good g36's

think your cousin would be better with m4 bulldog/dragon if it is below 350 than a springer at

skirmish sites tbh

jeans - trainer boots with some ankle support n good tread on sole, thick sweatshirt/hoodie

or a thin light old jacket - normal dark colours not bright orange top or illuminous stripe done

ya track suit - jeans best though

mask - something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Paintball-Airsoft-Gear-Full-Face-Eyes-Nose-Wear-Protector-Safety-Guard-Mesh-Mask-/130835959126?pt=UK_Protective_Equipment&hash=item1e766e4d56

yeah not ultra cool but losing eyes/teeth isn't either

you can get googles n mask with ghost image n crap but if there is a big gap some sites will say no

if too much gap around face/eyes as u18

mesh is perhaps best as no fogging and won't scratch, may need to bend the full face mask a tad to fit face

but ideal if you wear glasses n stuff - I use those types coz they do the full face job etc....

about £7 in UK or half that from china

run with dark hoodie - hood up and you should be ok if getting a shot in neck etc...

certain areas can sting now n then but with that cheap setup you shouldn't get stung too much or bad

it don't really hurt - but you gotta feel it to call it so to speak but the fps should ensure nobody gets

hurt too badly - many times it is people going ar$e over tit falling over a stump in woods or splat into

walls etc....

 
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just a quick question and not trying to necro OP was wondering what the best goggles that would fit roughly with the half face mask for around the £40 mark with no fogging would be. I'm guessing lozart would know as he knows most things

 
soz saw bulldog and had previously done a lengthy - very lengthy reply to somebody getting this:

https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/Bulldog-B500A1-AEG-Electric-BB-Gun-Airsoft-Rifle.html

anyway - your bulldog is a rebadged SRC Dragon - not bad, but gerbox is plastic casing and

inside no bushings - won't last long and trigger is crap will come apart if gears don't shag 1st

can also be a bit hot - 350+fps - well mine is plus barrel is a tad pi$$ed so shoots slightly off

unless you really adjust sights to extreme left to compensate - jeez wot crap build

and the "proper" M4 SRC's aren't built a hell of a lot better - but they make good g36's

think your cousin would be better with m4 bulldog/dragon if it is below 350 than a springer at

skirmish sites tbh

jeans - trainer boots with some ankle support n good tread on sole, thick sweatshirt/hoodie

or a thin light old jacket - normal dark colours not bright orange top or illuminous stripe done

ya track suit - jeans best though

mask - something like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Paintball-Airsoft-Gear-Full-Face-Eyes-Nose-Wear-Protector-Safety-Guard-Mesh-Mask-/130835959126?pt=UK_Protective_Equipment&hash=item1e766e4d56

yeah not ultra cool but losing eyes/teeth isn't either

you can get googles n mask with ghost image n crap but if there is a big gap some sites will say no

if too much gap around face/eyes as u18

mesh is perhaps best as no fogging and won't scratch, may need to bend the full face mask a tad to fit face

but ideal if you wear glasses n stuff - I use those types coz they do the full face job etc....

about £7 in UK or half that from china

run with dark hoodie - hood up and you should be ok if getting a shot in neck etc...

certain areas can sting now n then but with that cheap setup you shouldn't get stung too much or bad

it don't really hurt - but you gotta feel it to call it so to speak but the fps should ensure nobody gets

hurt too badly - many times it is people going ar$e over tit falling over a stump in woods or splat into

walls etc....
he's already got his, and we both decided to get one by the end of the year, he's got his one cos it looked cool, i decided to do a bit more research before a bought a paperweight.

as for the actual post, i think i have everything sorted except the batteries and pellets,

i still can't choose between a 8.4v NiMh or 9.6 NiMh, i don't want to damage the gun but want a high rof.

and for the pellets can someone recommend a pellet brand that sells 5000 rounds, otherwise ill just go with asg blasters.

thanks for all of the help, i also have a post written out on my phone which didnt get posted which i'll try to post again (though it's not outdated and not much of use since most of the questions were answered) but ill post it anyway.

 
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Thx for the help, the reason i want to stick to a nimh batt is because im used to the batt technology used in them, also videos online show that nimh pwerrd guns shoot noticeably faster than a lipo batt. The charger im thinking of buying is cheaper than the one you recommend. As for the bbs are there any other cheaper bbs you could recommend?

 
[OUTDATED]

Thx for the help, the reason i want to stick to a nimh batt is because im used to the batt technology used in them, also videos online show that nimh pwerrd guns shoot noticeably faster than a lipo batt. The charger im thinking of buying is cheaper than the one you recommend. As for the bbs are there any other cheaper bbs you could recommend?
I understand, but I have to disagree that LIPo is much more powerful than NIMH. Understand about the charger, NIMH don't need expensive chargers and I have used excel bbs which are decent :)

 
[OUTDATED]

Thx for the help, the reason i want to stick to a nimh batt is because im used to the batt technology used in them, also videos online show that nimh pwerrd guns shoot noticeably faster than a lipo batt. The charger im thinking of buying is cheaper than the one you recommend. As for the bbs are there any other cheaper bbs you could recommend?
Nonsense

 
just a quick question and not trying to necro OP was wondering what the best goggles that would fit roughly with the half face mask for around the £40 mark with no fogging would be. I'm guessing lozart would know as he knows most things
1 - which half mask

2 - no fogging? At all? Mesh ones then.

 
you probably using older style battery with bulldog and a crane one should fit in bulldog fine

so if/when you upgrade to lipo 7.4 then it won't be a wasted investment

if you get into it and maybe battery fails then you can look at getting lipo's then

I still use both kinds - lipo's have 7.4v or maybe too high 11.1v

then again life comes in 9.9v option which is a bit better

nimh old skool you can go up in 1.2v increments:

7.2, 8.4, 9.6 - I tend to use these or 9.9v life, 10.8 or mad 12v options

but if pushing higher volts/amps through gun then you need to ensure it can take it

and/or fit mosfet to help switch contacts arc-ing from higher volts etc......

as well as not wanting to hammer your new gun too much too soon

fine if looking to upgrade gears/motor/spring etc.... but wise to go easy at first

I gotta look at some time putting in a mosfet one day if I choose to go nutz

often just coz battery says xx.x volts - when it comes off charge then it oftens is pumping out

x + 1 or even 1.5volts more for a while

lipo's also do this - a 7.4v often pumps out 8.5v or more from charge

an 11.1v was showing crazy 12.5v or something once

life 9.9v seems to come of charge at not much more and very quickly settles back to 10v

(I watched it on a MultiMeter dropping quickly btw - jeez I need to get a feckin' life)

 
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I was going off this video for the lipl vs nimh argument. It uses the cm16 raider im getting so i thought i can trust it:

 
Nothing off the shelf will fit perfectly. But if you look on the DIY thread you'll see how to mod the mask to fit better. Any decent set of goggles will work fine but you'll need to make the effort if you want to minimise fogging. Revision Desert Locust seems pretty popular, could also try Bolle X1000 or my personal preference ESS V12 Advancers.

 
he states hes new etc, a 9.6 is more comparable to an 11.1v lipo, should be comparing 8.4 to 7.4 i believe

 
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I was going off this video for the lipl vs nimh argument. It uses the cm16 raider im getting so i thought i can trust it:

All I can say to that is that he must have a shit LiPo.

 
Will a nimh 9.6v damage my gun? Would a 7.4v lipo damage it? Im still siding with nimh for now as its battery teechnology is more familiar. Ill likely switch to lipo later though. I also haave 2 more, very last questions: what would personally prefer? The carbine or the raider? And ive been reading about having to hop up the gun or something to increase accuracy when you first get it, how would i go about doing the hop up

 
Will a nimh 9.6v damage my gun? Would a 7.4v lipo damage it? Im still siding with nimh for now as its battery teechnology is more familiar. Ill likely switch to lipo later though. I also haave 2 more, very last questions: what would personally prefer? The carbine or the raider? And ive been reading about having to hop up the gun or something to increase accuracy when you first get it, how would i go about doing the hop up
not sure but highly doubt a 9.6 would, and i run a 7.4 and it does no harm at all. that's fine for now but later spend the 70+ quid for the battery and charger and you will find the results are very good and the charger can charge just about anything, and so the initial cost may be quite high but in the long run it will be much cheaper and more efficient to use, hence why everyone is making the swap these days.

I have the carbine, most people prefer the raider, I like the carbine but that's your choice, there is no difference internally just externally.

Honestly, leave it as it is and get a few good games before trying to mod it. IF you really want to mod it, you can add a sight, maybe some nicer iron sights and a bunch of magpul goodies including a stock, perhaps a flashlight or laser, then internals upgrade a few parts in the gearbox, add a mosfet, add a different motor, put a new hop bucking in, tightbore barrel, rewire to deans, all sorts of goodies you can do. For me I am leaving the gun mainly stock and will upgrade my G&P P* when I get it.

Its all down to choice in reality, and that's a decision only you can make.... (i'm beginning to sound like a teacher now)

 
8.4v is a safe bet for now to run in ya gun

your bulldog m4a1 if you still got it will be fine with that

I use 9.6v or 9.9v life's but I ain't too worried if stuff gets hammered

should be ok but I can write off some stuff and all that coz too old

flogging other crap to fund my new hobby and got a job etc....

the switch can burn or arc with higher voltages - heck even some

mosfets can go tits up quickly on bad batches - nobody has a crystal

ball but many stay around 8.4v and keep motor cool

but like anything you go nutz trigger happy the motor will get warm

the G&G's can take a bit of stick but I ain't saying you be fine with 9.9v or 11.v lipo

in case she breaks in a month or two if you are unlucky.....

Most places will advise up to 8.4v - if you go over they say warranty is void

so the final choice & decision is down to you....

Volts will mainly increase the fire rate or Rounds Per Second - rps

fps - Feet Per Second is the velocity/speed/energy measured at muzzle/flash hider

that is roughly it - rps can be increased still on lower or medium voltage by using

different gears/motor/spring blah blah blah

see how it performs maybe on 8.4v - if she fires at 13 or 14 per sec then that is fine

don't really mean $hit - if you are a decent shot then 1,2,3 or even 4 shots a second

won't matter that much and shouldn't run out of ammo so quick

All facts n figures crap but each gun will vary slightly to the next one coming off line

Try it - and like many things - it is if YOU the owner/buyer are happy with ya gun !!!

forget 20 or 25rps & 349.9999fps must have - if gun is inconsistent or all over the place

then that means jack

328 fps if doing some cqb sites, consistent 325-330 say

14 rps and good mid range groupings is better than a powerful

pile crap firing like nutz all over the place shots dropping short

from bad setup or seals inside

yeah I know what gun I would rather take out

I'm no expert - far - well miles from it but atm that is what I feel

Opinions are just like ar$eholes - everybody has their own

don't mean somebody is 101% correct or anybody else is wrong

you ask/research crap but final decision like many things is down to you

 
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