jcheeseright
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I didn't even consider that when rubbishing the effectiveness of them; sacrificing all your night adapted vision for a brief moment of blurry monochrome, hardly seems an effective trade off!
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I Need Help To Build A Weird Device
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Hav0c
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How about you an egg timer, twist it for a lengthy setting and chuck it say 10 feet away?
Those thing tick pretty damn loudly, especially when all is quiet and people are trying to be stealthy.
You could even even tape/glue it into something bowl-shaped which would slightly amplify the ticking sound and also provide a buffer on one side for when it's thrown.
Those thing tick pretty damn loudly, especially when all is quiet and people are trying to be stealthy.
You could even even tape/glue it into something bowl-shaped which would slightly amplify the ticking sound and also provide a buffer on one side for when it's thrown.
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They are very effective, James, but fishbowl-y. It's going to take some practice with focussing the eyepieces and walking around in them. Plus trying them out with different eyepro to see which fits best. But the focus should mean that they will work with a variety of eyepro.
I'll put some selfies up over the next few days - you should see the IR lamp - i swear it looks like something from a 70's Dr. Who episode!
The thing that people don't seem to be getting about "Device X" is subtlety. The louder, the worse. The point is not to make people think, "Aha! The enemy is over there!" It is to make him/her think, "WTF is that sound? Is it coming from my gear? Is my LiPo about to explode? Why does it sound different when I turn my head this way? Where TF is it coming from?" etc.
I'll put some selfies up over the next few days - you should see the IR lamp - i swear it looks like something from a 70's Dr. Who episode!
The thing that people don't seem to be getting about "Device X" is subtlety. The louder, the worse. The point is not to make people think, "Aha! The enemy is over there!" It is to make him/her think, "WTF is that sound? Is it coming from my gear? Is my LiPo about to explode? Why does it sound different when I turn my head this way? Where TF is it coming from?" etc.
jcheeseright
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I reckon egg timer is the best option so far, find a way to put it in a tennis ball to protect it and muffle the sound a bit and you're onto a winner!
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Omg I've just realised the most easiest and simple thing possible
Your idea is to distract the enemy right, some sort of decoy ??
Why not just tie some para cord to a branch or something, crawl away to a position far away enough out of earshot (chances are they won't hear anything anyway) and just tug the cord in an irregular pattern when they are near it
I used the same principal when 'hobo fishing' an old can, some fishing line and a hook. Bait and cast the hook then just move the can to imitate insects etc in the water
Your idea is to distract the enemy right, some sort of decoy ??
Why not just tie some para cord to a branch or something, crawl away to a position far away enough out of earshot (chances are they won't hear anything anyway) and just tug the cord in an irregular pattern when they are near it
I used the same principal when 'hobo fishing' an old can, some fishing line and a hook. Bait and cast the hook then just move the can to imitate insects etc in the water
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Ian_Gere
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The bumble ball has great possibilities. It already is a ball and it has LED's so I can just replace 'em with IR ones. I'll just have to get one and see how much/what type of noise it makes, but i suspect that I'll be able to muffle it inside if it's too much.
There are loads of things which I could use in the role of a 'normal' distraction device, from the low tech string tied to something a distance away from me, right the way up to a miniature replica skirmisher with a tac light, remote control AEG, and a speaker system shouting, "Gummi puppen!?!"
But think about it... you are part of a small 'fire team' advancing in the dark. An obvious sound and/or light catches your attention forward and left. In the initial split second you're not sure exactly what the range is, because unless a sound has an associated movement you see, you have to turn your head this way and that to localise it, and a light could be tiny and close by, or bigger and further away (Father Dougal). What do you do? Fire in the general direction, right? Raising your muzzle as you do to cover close by out to longer range... unless one of your team mates beats you to it, in which case you may just observe, dial your senses in.
Chances are, if you were at all bunched up, you've split up and gone for cover, right? Or if you are good at it, you were already well dispersed, so all you need to do is go to ground.
Nobody calls a hit. Not long after the initial contact at least one of the squad is likely to have a good idea where the bogey is. Further fire on target, especially full auto, should produce a hit, right? So if it doesn't then something is up, right? Maybe whoever it is has taken cover, or moved - maybe they're not taking their hits... or, maybe it is a trick. Whatever your thinking, you are not going to continue to advance as a group until you have sussed whatever is going on. Maybe just one of you advances. Maybe one or two go for an attempt to flank the position. Maybe you just hose the entire area on the grounds that whatever is going on, there is probably some opposition nearby whom you cannot see, but that doesn't mean you can't hit them. Maybe you do all of the above...
None of that puts me, hiding in the dark, wanting to knock out your whole squad, in a very good position. Once I begin firing, I want to be able to hit you all before any of you can swing your guns towards me or effectively take cover.
So subtlety has got to be the way forward. If you're not even sure that what you're hearing is the enemy, or where it is coming from, and no amount of head turning helps to localise it, what can you do? Fire away randomly for sure, but if i've chosen my position well for cover, I'm still good to go when you lot either attempt to just avoid the whole area, or continue to advance in your skirmish order. Either way I'll be able to wait for just the right moment, quite possibly to be able to shoot the lot of you in the back as you pass me, or turn left, right, or 180 degrees.
There are loads of things which I could use in the role of a 'normal' distraction device, from the low tech string tied to something a distance away from me, right the way up to a miniature replica skirmisher with a tac light, remote control AEG, and a speaker system shouting, "Gummi puppen!?!"
But think about it... you are part of a small 'fire team' advancing in the dark. An obvious sound and/or light catches your attention forward and left. In the initial split second you're not sure exactly what the range is, because unless a sound has an associated movement you see, you have to turn your head this way and that to localise it, and a light could be tiny and close by, or bigger and further away (Father Dougal). What do you do? Fire in the general direction, right? Raising your muzzle as you do to cover close by out to longer range... unless one of your team mates beats you to it, in which case you may just observe, dial your senses in.
Chances are, if you were at all bunched up, you've split up and gone for cover, right? Or if you are good at it, you were already well dispersed, so all you need to do is go to ground.
Nobody calls a hit. Not long after the initial contact at least one of the squad is likely to have a good idea where the bogey is. Further fire on target, especially full auto, should produce a hit, right? So if it doesn't then something is up, right? Maybe whoever it is has taken cover, or moved - maybe they're not taking their hits... or, maybe it is a trick. Whatever your thinking, you are not going to continue to advance as a group until you have sussed whatever is going on. Maybe just one of you advances. Maybe one or two go for an attempt to flank the position. Maybe you just hose the entire area on the grounds that whatever is going on, there is probably some opposition nearby whom you cannot see, but that doesn't mean you can't hit them. Maybe you do all of the above...
None of that puts me, hiding in the dark, wanting to knock out your whole squad, in a very good position. Once I begin firing, I want to be able to hit you all before any of you can swing your guns towards me or effectively take cover.
So subtlety has got to be the way forward. If you're not even sure that what you're hearing is the enemy, or where it is coming from, and no amount of head turning helps to localise it, what can you do? Fire away randomly for sure, but if i've chosen my position well for cover, I'm still good to go when you lot either attempt to just avoid the whole area, or continue to advance in your skirmish order. Either way I'll be able to wait for just the right moment, quite possibly to be able to shoot the lot of you in the back as you pass me, or turn left, right, or 180 degrees.
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