Druid799
Supporters
- Sep 9, 2015
- 4,695
- 2,403
Didnt think we actually shot at ranges that could be affected by parallax ????
How do people line up their red dot?
- Thread starter El aston
- Start date
Georgeturner2001
Members
- Sep 25, 2016
- 530
- 77
Parallax causing inaccuracies with a red dot in airsoft. I doubt highly this is the OP's problem.
The reason for that is simple. Airsoft isn't accurate enough. You can't do shot on shot placement even at close ranges.
You will see it in target shooting circles at close ranges. The air rifle market, for example, is capable of shot on shot placement at 50yards, but most scopes have parallax set for 100yards. So at 50 yards unless you reset the scope's front element you may find the target point can wander if you are not bang on with your cheek weld and eye placement down the scope.
And parallax only comes into play when you are away from your parallax setting. If set for 100 yards and you are shooting close to 100 yards it should be bang on. Poor cheek weld and eye placement are not the scope been faulty.
A red dot, however, should be almost free of this. And even if it has poor parallax it should not be spot-able over the trajectory of a bb.
What is common is people set the dot up on a target that is too close, Or mount it incorrectly. And don't understand how a BB flies.
Even with the scope perfect. Range will show more of this deviation. At the end of your range even with a perfect BB flight and hop the BB should be over the aim point. There is also the chance that close up the BB might be under the aim point.
The best action for the OP is to have a chat at his/her local playing field and have one of the marshalls show them the correct way to sight in the optic. And Explain how range will affect the aimpoint.
I have a feeling the OP's gun is over-hopping.
The reason for that is simple. Airsoft isn't accurate enough. You can't do shot on shot placement even at close ranges.
You will see it in target shooting circles at close ranges. The air rifle market, for example, is capable of shot on shot placement at 50yards, but most scopes have parallax set for 100yards. So at 50 yards unless you reset the scope's front element you may find the target point can wander if you are not bang on with your cheek weld and eye placement down the scope.
And parallax only comes into play when you are away from your parallax setting. If set for 100 yards and you are shooting close to 100 yards it should be bang on. Poor cheek weld and eye placement are not the scope been faulty.
A red dot, however, should be almost free of this. And even if it has poor parallax it should not be spot-able over the trajectory of a bb.
What is common is people set the dot up on a target that is too close, Or mount it incorrectly. And don't understand how a BB flies.
Even with the scope perfect. Range will show more of this deviation. At the end of your range even with a perfect BB flight and hop the BB should be over the aim point. There is also the chance that close up the BB might be under the aim point.
The best action for the OP is to have a chat at his/her local playing field and have one of the marshalls show them the correct way to sight in the optic. And Explain how range will affect the aimpoint.
I have a feeling the OP's gun is over-hopping.
Last edited by a moderator:
Skara
Members
- Oct 20, 2017
- 3,241
- 1,252
Mine are zeroed for 30 metres, they're just for quick reference as I correct according to where bbs go. Without any wind they're pretty much bang on, but I use .20s and .25s, no point in using anything heavier with a 1J limit.
Same for my sniper, I zero at 30m using .30s and Kentucky windage (and elevation at this point
) every follow up shot.
Zeroing an optic for airsoft isn't rocket science, it is pretty straightforward, you just need to understand how the hop up affects the bb trajectory.
Same for my sniper, I zero at 30m using .30s and Kentucky windage (and elevation at this point
) every follow up shot.Zeroing an optic for airsoft isn't rocket science, it is pretty straightforward, you just need to understand how the hop up affects the bb trajectory.
Adolf Hamster
Supporters
- Feb 1, 2018
- 7,057
- 2,229
*triggered*
there is a benefit to heavier ammo especially at a 1j limit, it'll fly farther, hit harder, and be much more likely to punch through light foliage than lighter ammo.
try dropping .3's in your rifles and see what i mean, and get some .4's in that sniper!
I seen a lot of videos showing 0.28s at 1j. Put one below. Might be your gun doesn't get on with higher weight for sure as they couldn't hop .30s with stock components.Mine are zeroed for 30 metres, they're just for quick reference as I correct according to where bbs go. Without any wind they're pretty much bang on, but I use .20s and .25s, no point in using anything heavier with a 1J limit.
Same for my sniper, I zero at 30m using .30s and Kentucky windage (and elevation at this point
Zeroing an optic for airsoft isn't rocket science, it is pretty straightforward, you just need to understand how the hop up affects the bb trajectory.
Based on that video he would struggle with .3s. Might need a new hop rubber minimum maybe a flat hop
Last edited by a moderator:
Adolf Hamster
Supporters
- Feb 1, 2018
- 7,057
- 2,229
Don't mean it to be a negative just it's not what 90% of people will be running? I really want to see tests done on 1j guns from stock hop to flat to r hop to see what type of FPS increase is gained from less pressure needing to be applied to get the back spin. Ideally all on the same barrel.you say that like it's a bad thing to have to flathop a gun
To contribute to the thread make sure you sight your hop with the BB weight you will be using before trying to zero your sights. If you swap weight your hop will be off but if you fix your hop your zero shouldn't change as you should be zeroed for the straight BBs.
Adolf Hamster
Supporters
- Feb 1, 2018
- 7,057
- 2,229
from experience it's negligible, however you will get significant boosts in accuracy and range if you combine it with a heavier bb.
flathopping is pretty easy to do so i don't see a problem with reccommending people do it, rhopping can be a bit trickier but you do get excellent results.
Skara
Members
- Oct 20, 2017
- 3,241
- 1,252
My main AEG is flat hopped with a prommy purple bucking, my tournament gun has also a prommy purple (not flat hopped though).
0.20s because..Errr...Because...
Because my local shop doesn't have any good heavy bbs, as most people just buy .20s, so he stocks trash bbs for plebs and G&Gs for us.
Next time I stop by him I'm gonna ask if he orders a carton of .25/.28s just for me
0.20s because..Errr...Because...
Because my local shop doesn't have any good heavy bbs, as most people just buy .20s, so he stocks trash bbs for plebs and G&Gs for us.
Next time I stop by him I'm gonna ask if he orders a carton of .25/.28s just for me
- Thread starter
- #33
Brilliant post mate described everything for me, would help if i actually went to a game first hahaParallax causing inaccuracies with a red dot in airsoft. I doubt highly this is the OP's problem.
The reason for that is simple. Airsoft isn't accurate enough. You can't do shot on shot placement even at close ranges.
You will see it in target shooting circles at close ranges. The air rifle market, for example, is capable of shot on shot placement at 50yards, but most scopes have parallax set for 100yards. So at 50 yards unless you reset the scope's front element you may find the target point can wander if you are not bang on with your cheek weld and eye placement down the scope.
And parallax only comes into play when you are away from your parallax setting. If set for 100 yards and you are shooting close to 100 yards it should be bang on. Poor cheek weld and eye placement are not the scope been faulty.
A red dot, however, should be almost free of this. And even if it has poor parallax it should not be spot-able over the trajectory of a bb.
What is common is people set the dot up on a target that is too close, Or mount it incorrectly. And don't understand how a BB flies.
Even with the scope perfect. Range will show more of this deviation. At the end of your range even with a perfect BB flight and hop the BB should be over the aim point. There is also the chance that close up the BB might be under the aim point.
The best action for the OP is to have a chat at his/her local playing field and have one of the marshalls show them the correct way to sight in the optic. And Explain how range will affect the aimpoint.
I have a feeling the OP's gun is over-hopping.
You'll also notice in the graphic within Iceni's post there are two zero points. If you know the distances they occur you can adjust for the shots in between (without scope adjustment although in airsoft due to the short ranges and inaccuracy of the ammo it's less relevant but hey-ho).
Skara
Members
- Oct 20, 2017
- 3,241
- 1,252
Useful info when dealing with real guns.
I remember a big standard AR15 zeroed at 25m hits dead on at 300 or something like that (may be wrong).
A bit irrelevant when dealing with feather light plastic round bbs, can be useful for target shooting though
Adolf Hamster
Supporters
- Feb 1, 2018
- 7,057
- 2,229
Its good to be aware of it, personally i set my rise to be about 20cm so fingers crossed if i go for centre of mass its unlikely i'll miss.
- Thread starter
- #37
Adolf Hamster
Supporters
- Feb 1, 2018
- 7,057
- 2,229
on e21a's diagram it's how far the bb "rises" above the level line.
ie if i shoot level to the ground the bb will go up by 20cm from the height of the barrel before dropping
- Thread starter
- #39
Similar threads
