Good Grief

[spamofthejungle]

'd apologise for luring you from your hide however since I never stipulated which category I'd personally choose to play in or whether my reasons for a mask are purely cosmetic or safety or perhaps even medical it would seem you had a wasted journey of which I am not responsible. Perhaps your stirring can best be blamed on the psychology of mob rule in which safety in numbers inspires otherwise cowardly children to join a lynch mob.

I'm surprised you bothered to be honest, my original comment of making a rod for my own back was somewhat being proven wrong when every response was non personal and based on sharing knowledge and perspective about why they disagree with me until you surfaced.

Also find it odd that a comment mocking/belittling the wearing of face protection is recieving likes from people who argue responsible/safe gaming and how the sport is perceived by people outside the community such as parents of would be hobbyists being their motive behind disliking KM in the first place, perhaps some people are just hiding general dislike or jealousy behind virtuousness in order to get what they want or rid of who they don't want

Noone is 'belittling' you for wearing lower face, you're just being called out for being a fake tough guy. You're acting like KMs victims are just being little bitches, and saying you'd like a more dangerous version of airsoft, yet you don't even play the version we already have to it's max. This is why people are liking the post, because it rings true. There is literally no need for lower face in airsoft at current power levels, this sport IS safe, if everyone follows the rules, which KM doesn't, hence people disliking him. To recap, the point I'm making is you don't get to call other people safety nazis and pussies when you won't take to the field without a mesh training bra on your face. 

 

[RostokMcSpoons]

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I would whole-heartedly defend the wearing of lower face masks tbh.  One sniper shot to a tooth or the gum tells you it's eminently sensible. (I was lucky, I didn't lose the tooth)

 

[Adolf Hamster]

well this seems to have escalated........

 

[Tackle]

I'd never criticise anyone for taking safety seriously, to be fair even if it means you don't turn up on Monday morning for your "respectable" job with your chops covered in red marks & welts, then it's done its job. 

But changing fps limits for more "hardcore" games is ridiculous, it's hard enough to enforce what we've got so giving players carte blanche to increase fps could get out of hand. 

Anyway, whys it even being discussed, to do so would break the laws of the land, so it's obviously never gonna be an option, shit like this only gets more draconian, not relaxed ffs. 

 

[spamofthejungle]

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I would whole-heartedly defend the wearing of lower face masks tbh.  One sniper shot to a tooth or the gum tells you it's eminently sensible. (I was lucky, I didn't lose the tooth)

Fully agree, nothing against anyone who wants to wear any protective gear they like, but you don't get to wear it then act like you're a hard man ? I'd have said nothing about it if he hadn't been acting like what KM does is fine and people are too soft. 

 

[Tackle]

I've never seen more than a snippet of km's crap videos, personally I'd rather watch paint dry, but when you "hear" the crap he gets up to, which can't all be hearsay given the number of sites that have elbowed him, makes me think I'd struggle not to slap the shit out of him if I met him on the field. 

Obviously I'm not endorsing anyone to engage in violence, but it's small wonder he hasn't had a pasting due to his antics. 

People tend to talk about him with the same venom as they do a certain NI scammer. 

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Anyone seen my pitchfork? ?

 

[RostokMcSpoons]

Yeah, to be clear, my opinion is if Kicking Mustang is doing any of the stuff he's being accused of, he's a complete c*nt and needs to be banned everywhere.

We're supposed to do this stuff to have fun, not to get hurt by some twat who think he's above the rules.

 

[truckinthumper]

I am a fairly objective person, I dont judge someone on what other say, but what the person in question does (acts). 

I have not seen any proof of KM doing something other than hurting someone's "feelz". 

Any link to facts of the guy cheating? I do not mean what Bobby posted in a forum. 
Video proof, or KM saying he is cheating. 

 

[BigBell1987]

@spamofthejungle

Putting a lot of words in my mouth fella, I never said I was hard, never called anyone a pussy or safety nazi never mentioned raising FPS limits ( you didn't say that but other people putting those words in my mouth too, see how I distinguish what actually came out of your mouth, not difficult). Again I never stipulated which of those fields I would personally play on nor my reasons for a half mask of which a plethora of reasons are possible. I simply stated to paraphrase that perhaps it would be better to have separate fields for those who headshot and are fine with being head shot and those who don't and aren't.

I'm happy to be head-shot, not because I think I'm hard but because my face is protected and mainly it's a confirmation that I'm presenting the smallest possible target while aiming down the site ie not blind firing, if I'm getting shot elsewhere then I've been caught slipping from an angle I failed to find cover.

Hopefully you can accept that allowing me to exit the thread to everyone's satisfaction without having to reiterate what I did or didn't say.

Enjoy your day!

 

[spamofthejungle]

@spamofthejungle

Putting a lot of words in my mouth fella, I never said I was hard, never called anyone a pussy or safety nazi never mentioned raising FPS limits ( you didn't say that but other people putting those words in my mouth too, see how I distinguish what actually came out of your mouth, not difficult). Again I never stipulated which of those fields I would personally play on nor my reasons for a half mask of which a plethora of reasons are possible. I simply stated to paraphrase that perhaps it would be better to have separate fields for those who headshot and are fine with being head shot and those who don't and aren't.

I'm happy to be head-shot, not because I think I'm hard but because my face is protected and mainly it's a confirmation that I'm presenting the smallest possible target while aiming down the site ie not blind firing, if I'm getting shot elsewhere then I've been caught slipping from an angle I failed to find cover.

Hopefully you can accept that allowing me to exit the thread to everyone's satisfaction without having to reiterate what I did or didn't say.

Enjoy your day!

Where is all the talk of headshots coming from? Headshots are fine in airsoft and noone has a problem with it. Being a douche nozzle and shooting people in the face when you could shoot the chest annoys people, but that is far and away the most minor thing that KM does which is douchery. Literally noone has said they have a problem being shot in the head if that's all they're presenting.

Are you under the impression people can't scroll up and see what you wrote? Because you very definitely did suggest a new type of airsoft with different limits etc. 

You are entitled to your opinion mate, and everyone else is entitled to theirs, notice how all the experienced airsofters disagree with you? A smart person would consider why. 

 

[BigBell1987]

Are you under the impression people can't scroll up and see what you wrote? Because you very definitely did suggest a new type of airsoft with different limits etc.

Please do scroll, please quote where I specifically mentioned raising limits and when you can't please allow me to clean my mouth of your force fed bull by allowing my departure with your silence. I'm not under the impression that others can't scroll neither in fact I implore them to do so and hopefully they can call you on it to show consistent discredit where discredits adieu proving they call it full stop and not just on people with opposing opinions, perhaps my expectations are a little high though, no actually my expectations are probably on point as what I really expect is some response along the lines of well I can't quote it but you definitely implied it and at that point for the first time in this thread contrary to your so called quotes I will be calling someone weak!

A smart person would consider why. 

I told you why earlier which I won't reiterate as that would insult everyone's intelligence and ability to scroll, as well as get their backs up enough to call me a troll again which I don't wanna do as I'm trying to leave the thread hence why I'm being reserved in my response by simply cleaning your bull off me as oppose to throwing some back.

 

[Rogerborg]

Again it seems like there's a hymn sheet being shared around and people just sing from it to stay in good standing in their own church.

That's certainly possible.  However, if it turns out to be as accurate as Mustard's marksmanship, how persuasive is it likely to be?

Fresh opinions and challenging the status quo are fine and healthy: that's the basis for all improvements.

Of course, as Mustard demonstrates, it can also result in becoming righter and righter in fewer and fewer places.

 

[BigBell1987]

That's certainly possible.  However, if it turns out to be as accurate as Mustard's marksmanship, how persuasive is it likely to be?

A fair point if one's a free thinker and not subject to psychological disorders which make one susceptible to things like consensus decision making and the like which is not something I'm accusing anyone here of purposely orchestrating it's just something that happens unfortunately although I suspect certain agencies in the world do hold such tools in their armaments and test and refine them frequently.

Fresh opinions and challenging the status quo are fine and healthy: that's the basis for all improvements.

I agree even though I'm conservative ? hard being religious in the ever evolving and often bizarre (to me) society we find ourselves in.

 

[Cannonfodder]

Someone who only saw Amber Heards makeup skills and nothing else was likely seated in her corner being oblivious to the full picture, there's plenty of good conduct in his videos if one bothers to shed their pre-conditioned attitude and watch a fair portion from a neutral perspective.

Thats a very poor strawman argument there as I've seen what professional make up artists can do and Miss Heard's attempts were amateur at best. Istarted watching from a neutral perspective and was quickly able to tell how much of them were nothing more than click bait manufactured drama

Have yoy actually played airsoft,  or have you only watched YouTube videos? 

 

[Kls77]

Well there's 20minutes on the toilet at work done .... Cheers peeps great read hahahha . Tbh don't think KM cares . He making shit load of money form it all . From something he likes doing . If he gets away with stuff then who is to blame . The people letting him . Phoenix are getting publicity from it and it's always packed out there twice a week .. 

Let it go . Is all business and money ..  wish I thought if it instead of reading about it on the bog in dead end job ........

 

[DopeYourScope]

Ok, I’ve been lurking this post for a while. I can’t be bothered to go through and quote individual posts because I’m at work on my phone (don’t tell the bosses). 
 

KM has been caught on video firing TAG rounds AT people within 50m, if anyones unaware of the affect of being hit by a tag round at that sort of range it will knock you out if it hits you in the head. (The video was recorded at Apocalypse Airsoft it was brought to his attention in the comments and as far as I’m aware it was re edited) 

He has been caught at numerous sites in the southeast using a hot gun, this is technically hearsay as I was told this by the site owners/managers themselves and as we all know is banned from more than just the sites mentioned in the OP. 
 

KM is, whether we all like it or not (majority of us don’t like it) a role model for the sport and especially its’ younger audiences. 

His portrayal of airsoft is not in a good light and unfortunately in this general society the smallest negatives will always outweigh the positives, and as I’m sure it’s been mentioned it was fought for airsoft to remain as it is under the VCRA and the last thing we need is a Facebook group called “Bored Mums Against Airsoft” or similar gaining any traction and using his videos as evidence to prove the activity is dangerous. 

If you want a more “hardcore version” of airsoft do a milsim, if you bitch and moan there you’re on your way home. Be prepared for all the other caveats that come with it (ammo/camo limits/ hard routine/multiple day events), or speak to your preferred site about private hire days and you and all your friends can go shoot each other till you look like you’ve got monkey pox. 

 

[Cannonfodder]

The idea of a "hardcore" game tends to be brought up every couple of years, usually by some insecure child who thinks they've got something to prove

 

[Rogerborg]

From something he likes doing

That's the thing, I'm not sure that he does.  His fans like to rattle off "You're just jelly of his success", but I actually pity him.  I'd hate to turn a fun hobby into a full time job where I had to travel further and further to keep making and faking more and more extreme clickbait to chase those rare multi-million-view hits.

And the tragic thing is that he doesn't even seem to enjoy it, or not in any way that's healthy, as he has to constantly surround himself with grief and conflict.  When he looks back on his career, I wonder what he'll have to feel proud about as a human being, beyond Bigger Number Better.

In terms of "yeahbut, where's the proof", there was a series of videos made 3 or 4 years ago detailing his shenanigans.  He got them taken down with copyright strikes, and, as above, he does seem to re-edit the most egregious stuff after getting the initial views.  He's good at what he does, there's no denying that.

The incident that solidified my opinion was when he was deliberately shooting a couple of players in the face, explicitly to punish them, because "dead players don't talk".  Well, they shouldn't talk about game issues, but:

1) If he was 25 or 30m away from them, how could he hear what they were talking about?

2) In order to do this, he was camping their spawn.

That's typical of the stuff that I watched.  The narcissist narrative is CHEETARS PUNASHED, but if you apply a bit of thought, he's often condemning himself more than the players that he's policing.

 

[EvilMonkee]

Having met him more than once, I don't think he has the mental capacity to think about such things.  Not the sharpest.  And if he is making so much money (which I doubt) why does he drive a knackered 1990s Merc?   

 

[Tackle]

Cos anything nice would probably get trashed ? ?