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Good Grief

Tommikka said:
Absolutely.

We’ve agreed many times on disclaimers & excessive briefs, but in the context of filming ….. a number of years back the training on military urban sites kicked up a few gears, just when paintball & Airsoft games were having a surge of ‘special site’ events.

An absolute rule was put into place that no video recording was to be made on a site, the rule was distributed in the lead up to the game, stressed in the brief - and of course immediately on game on a player walked past range staff attaching a head cam.  (To be told in no uncertain terms to turn it off)

On the Monday or Tuesday very irate calls circulated as footage appeared on YouTube.

With a lot of luck (not for the culprit) the originator was known and made to remove the footage immediately 

His ‘excuse’ was the team mate in front of him had been the one told to switch off now, and not him.

Only the swift action by event organiser allowed further use of the site that year … and onwards.

Filming is allowed again, but was politically sensitive at the time 
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Same happened at Copehill down last time I was there (a good few years ago now) everyone was specifically told that certain area's of the site were not to be filmed, all camera footage had to be provided back to event organiser for vetting and any footage that included before mentioned areas would be scrapped. Everyone was fine with this and the majority just said "you know what I wont bother filming anything"

One lad decided to not hand in his memory cards (all of which would have been properly identified and handed back in due course) got quite the rude awakening when he uploaded those videos to YouTube. The MOD also got a lot of "evidence" for goings on at Stanta which led to some of the shitstorm that flew airsofts way when the MOD saw it (not all of that was video but also the state the site was left in).

Me personally - I don't have any issues with people filming whatever they want (providing its within the limits of the site - MOD rules etc) however when it comes to editing videos to make people out to be something they're not that's when I have an issue. Its quite easy to put hit markers over videos where you cant quite make out (because of various factors) if someone has been hit or not and then calling that person a cheater is bullshit. Secondly mocking some poor person by absolutely pulverizing them all for the internet kudos and laughs (AIRSOFT PRO ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS KID WITH BRIGHT GREEN GUN) is also bullshit and in my opinion and not only shows people the wrong way to play (and then encouraging others to play that way) but also shows absolute lack of moral compass and all for what, being famous on the webs for playing airsoft?

The whole Trump-esk whinging I see online when people get called out for shit behavior touting "woke/cancel culture" is also a load of horse shit, don't act like a dick and you wont get called out for being a dick. Its as simple as that.

 
Kicking Mustang did WHAT!?

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Floperator said:
Which one is that, out of interest?
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Reddit sez: "Phoenix Airsoft and NoMansLand mainly"

clumpyedge said:
Its quite easy to put hit markers over videos where you cant quite make out (because of various factors) if someone has been hit or not
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MusTard adds them even when it's quite clear that his BBs are hooking off into next postcode.  He's creating pure fictional drama.

clumpyedge said:
not only shows people the wrong way to play (and then encouraging others to play that way)
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Indeed, my main problem is that anyone who get into airsoft after watching his garbage is likely to be someone who finds those sort of antics appealing.

clumpyedge said:
absolute lack of moral compass and all for what, being famous on the webs for playing airsoft?
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"Narcissistic personality disorder — one of several types of personality disorders — is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism."

Sound familiar?

 
clumpyedge said:
Me personally - I don't have any issues with people filming whatever they want (providing its within the limits of the site - MOD rules etc) however when it comes to editing videos to make people out to be something they're not that's when I have an issue. Its quite easy to put hit markers over videos where you cant quite make out (because of various factors) if someone has been hit or not and then calling that person a cheater is bullshit. Secondly mocking some poor person by absolutely pulverizing them all for the internet kudos and laughs (AIRSOFT PRO ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS KID WITH BRIGHT GREEN GUN) is also bullshit and in my opinion and not only shows people the wrong way to play (and then encouraging others to play that way) but also shows absolute lack of moral compass
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This. 100%.

and all for what, being famous on the webs for playing airsoft?
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Nope, for money. Views = ad revenue. Licking Wankstain did a livestream interview where he was quite open about why he makes his videos the way he does and purely and simply it's because they make him more money that way. He's not there because he likes airsoft, he's there because he like the notoriety and because it makes him money. At least, until the videos get demonetised.

 
Lozart said:
Nope, for money. Views = ad revenue. Licking Wankstain did a livestream interview where he was quite open about why he makes his videos the way he does and purely and simply it's because they make him more money that way. He's not there because he likes airsoft, he's there because he like the notoriety and because it makes him money. At least, until the videos get demonetised.
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Money yes, but there is still a massive amount of narcissism mixed in for good measure. That and a combination of what @Rogerborg mentioned as well.

 
clumpyedge said:
Money yes, but there is still a massive amount of narcissism mixed in for good measure. That and a combination of what @Rogerborg mentioned as well.
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I'm pretty sure he started his channel for the narcissism aspect along with all his peers like THG, Names Nicco etc but he definitely caught on to the style of videos that people were engaging with and saw a revenue stream from it. Everything I've seen from him does seem to mark him out as a massive wankspangle though.

 
Lozart said:
I'm pretty sure he started his channel for the narcissism aspect along with all his peers like THG, Names Nicco etc but he definitely caught on to the style of videos that people were engaging with and saw a revenue stream from it. Everything I've seen from him does seem to mark him out as a massive wankspangle though.
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i dunno, his earlier videos aren't particularly egregious, but you can very definately see the transition as the first natural cheater encounter goes viral and moving further down the rabbit hole of keeping up the clickbait.

needless to say there's not enough natural drama in many places so he ends up having to manufacture his own, which is where the site bans start.

 
Adolf Hamster said:
i dunno, his earlier videos aren't particularly egregious, but you can very definately see the transition as the first natural cheater encounter goes viral and moving further down the rabbit hole of keeping up the clickbait.

needless to say there's not enough natural drama in many places so he ends up having to manufacture his own, which is where the site bans start.
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From what I gather, sites are also banning if they are of the same company or they are on friendly terms with another site (I do know for a fact that a small number of sites speak to each other about various issues, and why not they are all in the same business and working together does have its advantages in some aspects). Not really all that different from my time working in pubs, if one local banned someone chances are the rest would ban you based on the behavior in previous pubs even before you've set foot through the door. I guess the onus then lays with that site in particular who are well within their rights to refuse service to any potential customer on whatever grounds they see fit.

 
Unreal Warfare said:
Outdoor. It was the first time I’d gone and they’d openly stated it during the rules brief mind. They’d never stated it the times I’d gone before.
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Also depends on who is marshalling on the day. There is one guy I can think of who'd see you had a camera and purposefully chirp a rule about not recording, there's another - maybe 2 who would ask the group as a whole.

I play a lot at the indoor and have never been asked and it's never been mentioned, in fact I get asked to try and catch their own players lol

 
Steveocee said:
Also depends on who is marshalling on the day. There is one guy I can think of who'd see you had a camera and purposefully chirp a rule about not recording, there's another - maybe 2 who would ask the group as a whole.

I play a lot at the indoor and have never been asked and it's never been mentioned, in fact I get asked to try and catch their own players lol
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Always been the same marshal giving the rules brief. Don’t know his name though.

 
Early KM videos were okay, but as its gone along, he's become obsessed with being a bit of a drama queen and trying to create issues. I've not yet met him at Phoenix, but I think from playing there a few times, I can gather why he goes there.

 
#blackadder, thanks for posting this everyone I have shown this to has reacted the same way with a massive belly laugh. Gives the "Kicking" in his name a new meaning :)

 
I enjoy his videos!

I'm probably creating a rod for my own back being new here and hearing the general opinion of him but each to their own.

Perhaps my opinion will change as I get more personal experience or if I take a hit from him some day but I doubt it.

It's YouTube, pinch of salt, purely entertainment, looks like loads of drama but it's edited from many hours of footage and everyone can follow who they want and receive similar suggestions from the algorithms.

I bet some of the people who hate him are actively paying him by watching his videos so let that be an incentive to tune out and pay him no mind and you'll likely forget about him till you come across him in the field. Bad press is good press, stop feeding your monsters.

 
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