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Benthompson96

Benthompson96

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Evening all

Recently purchased the above PYRAMEX Goggles, now as an added preventative fog measure i ordered with the EXFOG unit as it says in the description they can be paired

I really cant see how this unit attaches to these goggles without doing some DIY (which im not apposed to)

Just wondering if patrol base have just had me on here or there is more to learn on the kit?

Thanks all
 
The nov anti fog unit is specifically designed to be paired with those goggles (connector punches through the top of the seal) , I wasn't aware the exfog was designed to specifically interface with them worth emailing patrol base if it isn't obvious.
 
My favourite subject - eyes!!!!!

EN166F is the bare minimum for impact standards, and with a lack of consistent standards for Airsoft is very basic

It is tested for 6mm 0.86gram steel balls at 45 metres per second / 147 feet per second
That would be 0.87 joules, compared to EN166B at 130 metres per second / 6.192 joules


EN166F is the expected standard for low impact from minor debris & fragments —— they are general use workshop goggles

EN166B is for medium impact, higher risk


You could get away with using EN166F and will probably be OK once a BB has flown a bit, (as long as you don’t get hit at close range and the lens material is at its optimum brand new condition …..it is rated below the energy rating of an Airsoft RIFs muzzle velocity / energy limit


My personal recommendation is to return and ask for your money back with them not being fit for purpose
 
My second favourite marketing term ….. ballistic rated
That does not mean they are designed for being shot at


Shooting glasses are often marketed as ballistic rated - in marketing terms that means they protect the eyes from the blow back of dust when shooting

In the world of the Army, not even EN166A high impact is ballistic rated
 
MIL-PRF-32432 is a very different standard than EN166F, EN166B and EN166A

It is for a 0.15 calibre 5.8 grain T37 shaped projectile at 195-201 metres per second
(I’m not working those out at the moment - they exceed the needs of Airsoft and would be perfectly fine

It is very contradictory for Patrol Base to show those very different standards.

@Benthompson96
Do you have the safety data sheet for the goggles supplied ?
 
Worth noting that while you would probably be fine with goggles rated to 0.9J when dealing with 1.2J automatics, there are people running 2.3J bolties who may accidentally out otherwise shoot you within MED. There is also the ever present risk of a hot gun.

Absolutely not worth risking your eyes over and I'm ngl it's actual negligence that PB are selling these.

They're not even cheap. You can get EN166 B rated Bolle goggles for half that.
 
Lyndication said:
Worth noting that while you would probably be fine with goggles rated to 0.9J when dealing with 1.2J automatics,
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Even then, I wouldn't chance it. Either playing in CQB or a field where some players treat site limits as targets to chase/field 50rps guns for accuracy through volume, I wouldn't bet on those goggles saving me.
 
I just got some Revisions Wolf Spiders. The exfog tube is easily pushed through the vent in the top. No need to cut or damage the frames. Also nice knowing I have ballistic grade eye pro.

I was going to get the Pyramex ones but decided on revisions for the prescription inserts
 
Lyndication said:
Worth noting that while you would probably be fine with goggles rated to 0.9J when dealing with 1.2J automatics, there are people running 2.3J bolties who may accidentally out otherwise shoot you within MED. There is also the ever present risk of a hot gun.

Absolutely not worth risking your eyes over and I'm ngl it's actual negligence that PB are selling these.

They're not even cheap. You can get EN166 B rated Bolle goggles for half that.
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There are lot of different standards as Tommika has noted. If you take a look at the data sheet or whatever the lenses meet EN166B but the frame only matches F. I think for the most part this is about frame deformation. You're right, you can get a bolle X1000 which is EN166B for both lens and frame but I'm not particularly concerned about that for airsoft. I would wear these pyramex ones without being concerned. To be fair to patrolbase as well, they have quoted the "lowest" rating (frame) rather than the highest (lens).
 
Tommikka said:
You could get away with using EN166F and will probably be OK once a BB has flown a bit, (as long as you don’t get hit at close range and the lens material is at its optimum brand new condition …..it is rated below the energy rating of an Airsoft RIFs muzzle velocity / energy limit
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to expand on this point as it's important.

even on a 1j limit field, EN166f is not enough, a close up hit can crack a lens (i've seen it happen), and that's assuming everyone is running kosher, and that is never a safe assumption.

imo you should always be running eyepro that is not only over-rated, but excessively over-rated to the point of comedy. if you can't with confidence expect the kickingmustangs of this world to point blank you in the face only for your eyepro to audibly laugh at the puny hit then you shouldn't be wearing it.
 
GeorgePlaysAirsoft said:
the lenses meet EN166B but the frame only matches F. . You're right, you can get a bolle X1000 which is EN166B for both lens and frame
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The frames hold the lenses on. If the frames break, there are no lenses. If there are no lenses, you have no eyes.

You save no money buying these, they do not look cooler, they are less safe for your eyes. You agree the Bolles are rated better, why go for these?

There is no surgery that can restore a lost eyeball.
 
Thanks everyone for the feedback

Very new to AS so think il be returning these, whats everyones go to rating for goggles?
 
Benthompson96 said:
Thanks everyone for the feedback

Very new to AS so think il be returning these, whats everyones go to rating for goggles?
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You want more than en166f, b is better. Other standards like @Tommikka mentioned are better. From memory stanag 2920 is one of the standards that has airsoft energy levels as a rounding error (citation welcomed).

Going with an established manufacturer is better, eg if someone like bolle is claiming a standard then they are more likely to really meet that standard.
 
Benthompson96 said:
Thanks everyone for the feedback

Very new to AS so think il be returning these, whats everyones go to rating for goggles?
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I come from the world of paintball, so I would say full frames
But you want EN166B

Glasses style are available at EN166B for impact but I hate seeing these. It’s fine for impact, but not so good if the glasses dislodge and move (which you can help minimise with a strap) but they also risk non direct entry into the eye zone
I have seen marshals with a BB inside their glasses

A goggle style with foam around the eye zone is the ideal. The same look as your pyramex but with EN166B (that covers the whole system of the lens itself plus the frame being able to hold at impact (even when nothing breaks the lens will bend slightly on impact and potentially pop out of a frame, so a combined assessment of the whole goggle system at EN166B implies a good frame fit deep enough to keep the lens in situ


Others should be able to recommend a nice impact compliant goggle of a similar design
 
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