Ghillie suit wearers/snipers wearing team armbands around their ankles or hidden among their foliage. Cheating? Close to the limits? Tactical?

clumpyedge said:
If you have been going to sites that allow you to wear an ARMband around your leg or ankle then that's fine, its their decision. Speaking from a marshaling perspective on the sites I have worked on my position is this. If I got a complaint about someone be it sniper or not generally someone will come to me and so "so and so on green team is doing this that and the other" if you are wearing that ARMband on your ankle and decide you want to do something knobbish or is perceived as being knobbish by the other team it doesn't leave much for someone to give a decent description or tell me what team you are on. This then forces the occasional scenario where EVERYONE wearing a ghillie that day has to be told off together as, as a marshal we cant get a positive ID.

My personal thoughts on it are this. Bollocks to how much you have spent on your suit, its a mute point. You are playing a team based game where by you are marked so the other team can positively identify you and shoot you. If you choose to hide that after a marshal has placed that on your arm because it ruins the aesthetic of the tree you are trying to emulate then you are cheating (if playing on a site that states you have to have it on show). If you are playing on a site that allows you to move it then again, their site, their rules. I will however say that I have been to sites that allow this and the amount of snipers that then bitch and moan all day about being lit up is a hell of a lot more than the one or two people on this thread who "accept" that risk - take one of mustangs recent video as case and point, constantly gets hit by his own team but if he were wearing the band on his arm, more than likely would have been less of a problem but then again they could have just had it out for him.

Not sure why but this whole thread takes me back to a day at copehill down when a sniper got very very salty and complained to the DS running the event that he'd spent in excess of £500 building and crafting his suit only to spend most of his weekend either dead waiting for a medic or having to leave it in the harbor area because a large number of people on the other team had either thermal scopes or helmet mounted thermal. Not the same situation but did make me LOL.

My post is not directed at anyone so no toy throwing please. Just my thoughts based off of posts already made.
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If there were more than one ghillie on a banded team (and they all have then on their arms) then the complaint just becomes "one of the ghillies with a band on his arm" so you still have to tell them all off anyway.

I've never moved my band from my arm to my leg. Like I've already started, I always ask if I can but If I can't then it's not a problem and it stays put.

Has anyone actually come across this ornis it just youtuber troll speculation?

And with regards to that Mustang video, im fairly certain that video was filmed at Phoenix. I've played there quite a few times and im 99% certain from memory that they won't let you wear a band / tape on your legs. Could be getting mixed up with somewhere else though. 

Last time I played there I may have accidentally not seen Mustangs hand in the air when he was walking back to the safe zone,?.  I couldn't see much of him from the cover I was using and gave him a few rounds before seeing his hand ?

 
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leadly said:
If there were more than one ghillie on a banded team (and they all have then on their arms) then the complaint just becomes "one of the ghillies with a band on his arm" so you still have to tell them all off anyway.
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Not necessarily, some ghillies are darker than others, some use different guns, some use full face protection, some don't. There's generally more than one way to tell people apart even when wearing even if they are wearing Alan Titchmarshes perv curtains but yes generally its easier to have a word with all of a group rather than pick out an individual all depends how accurate the complainer is, more often than not its a shit description.

leadly said:
I've never moved my band from my arm to my leg. Like I've already started, I always ask if I can but If I can't then it's not a problem and it stays put.
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Didn't say you did.

leadly said:
Has anyone actually come across this ornis it just youtuber troll speculation?
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Numerous times people have tried this when I worked as a marshal, ended up taping their arm rather than giving them a nice velcro arm band. Seen a fair few instances while playing guess what happened... the marshals made them wear it on their arm and hovered over them majority of the day.

leadly said:
And with regards to that Mustang video, im fairly certain that video was filmed at Phoenix. I've played there quite a few times and im 99% certain from memory that they won't let you wear a band / tape on your legs. Could be getting mixed up with somewhere else though. 
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It was at Phoenix from memory. I didn't see the band on his arm in the video I might have been mistaken but he usually does those self loving 360 spin videos and was fairly certain I didn't see it on his arm, may have been pre-game but I have been at games where he has been and have seen him put it round his ankle or leg.

leadly said:
Last time I played there I may have accidentally not seen Mustangs hand in the air when he was walking back to the safe zone,?.  I couldn't see much of him from the cover I was using and gave him a few rounds before seeing his hand ?
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Have not read the entire 3 pages but the answer is simple and should be universal. 

ALL PLAYERS IRRELEVANT OF ROLE SHOULD WEAR ARM BAND ON UPPER ARM SO THAT IT IS CLEARLY VISIBLE. 

 If "snipers" hide it on ankle area then they are simply shit at sniping and will be shot at by both teams as a result. 

Comes down to the sites to have any common sense to apply rules mind. 

 
I thought of you all today as the marshal was applying tape around my leg ??

 
But for real how is the tape/armband supposed to go on something like a poncho? There is no arm to wrap around.

A horizontal strip near the shoulder?

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Pseudotectonic said:
But for real how is the tape/armband supposed to go on something like a poncho? There is no arm to wrap around.

A horizontal strip near the shoulder?

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Easiest solution, if the player is not able to display his tape/armband where it should be (& is clearly visible), then it should be placed at the end of his forestock, as close to the muzzle as possible where it can't be covered by the players hand. 

 
Tackle said:
Easiest solution, if the player is not able to display his tape/armband where it should be (& is clearly visible), then it should be placed at the end of his forestock, as close to the muzzle as possible where it can't be covered by the players hand. 
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I honestly honestly read foreskin then ?, not forestock. Man these night shifts are taking their toll on me!!

 
Pseudotectonic said:
But for real how is the tape/armband supposed to go on something like a poncho? There is no arm to wrap around.

A horizontal strip near the shoulder?

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Wrist.

In all the years I've been playing people have NEVER turned up like this to a game (that's not to say they don't but I certainly haven't seen it) I wore one once and as I say above the wrists seems to be the most sensible approach - I had both taped by the Marshal which I had no issues at all with.

I don't understand everyone wants to resemble a 70's porn stars mossy cleft than do anything even close to as interesting as the picture above because of the popularized swamp donkey gimp suit. Time and time again I notice that people seem to assume a ghillie is the must have for concealment when in actual fact airosfters are generally like a slightly dimmer version of a t-rex being that if you don't move chances are you wont get noticed if you have a decent solid colour or pattern on.

I miss CafeRacing (if you don't know him look him up on YouTube)

 
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clumpyedge said:
Wrist.

In all the years I've been playing people have NEVER turned up like this to a game (that's not to say they don't but I certainly haven't seen it) I wore one once and as I say above the wrists seems to be the most sensible approach - I had both taped by the Marshal which I had no issues at all with.

I don't understand everyone wants to resemble a 70's porn stars mossy cleft than do anything even close to as interesting as the picture above because of the popularized swamp donkey gimp suit. Time and time again I notice that people seem to assume a ghillie is the must have for concealment when in actual fact airosfters are generally like a slightly dimmer version of a t-rex being that if you don't move chances are you wont get noticed if you have a decent solid colour or pattern on.

I miss CafeRacing (if you don't know him look him up on YouTube)
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Wrists or lower forearm is generally what I do when wearing my cobra hood and I can attest to what you're saying here. All through the summer I wear OD trousers, a black t-shirt and a cobra hood that has had no crafting done to it whatsoever (it's just an evolution of the scrim net over boonie trick I used to do to break up silhouette) and I still have people walk right by me. Airsofters are pretty blind in general :P

I'm pretty adamant on the point that people should learn how to hide before investing in a ghillie. The best suit in the world won't make up for crappy fieldcraft and I relish in counter-sniping ghillies who don't know how to use it.

 
I think cheating might be a strong word for it, although it does seem borderline. I would definitely class any attempt to make your armband less visible as unsporting to say the least, to your own team and the opposition. Nobody wants to be that guy who lights up the friendly sniper who snuck into such a good position he's intermingled with the opposition, and that hesitation after spotting them can easily see you out of the game instead. Which to me feels unfair, if we came across a non-ghillie player wearing the band under their kit, we would call that out immediately, but for some reason some ghillie guys seem to think they're above the rules, everyone else, and fair play.

SOME ghillie guys, but that mentality, almost like they're the protagonist, and everyone else are NPCs whos experience is irrelevant, does seem to be more prevalent among our scrim wearing brethren. 

 
spamofthejungle said:
Nobody wants to be that guy who lights up the friendly sniper who snuck into such a good position he's intermingled with the opposition
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I have come to be immensely relaxed about it.  Team-kill has kill right in the name.

That reminds me, I need to look into LED armbands for CQB over the winter. ;)  

 
I do think team ID would be better on the players head or weapon fire end so they are all round visible.

Doesn’t need to be that brightly coloured.

But this isn’t always practical. If a site has a rule on it should be applied to every player equally. If you change your clothing/layer up the band needs to be moved.

 
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