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Ghillie suit wearers/snipers wearing team armbands around their ankles or hidden among their foliage. Cheating? Close to the limits? Tactical?

This site rule is dumb as fuck. 
 

It’s basically cheating as the cunt in the ghillie has an unfair advantage.

I’m actually not talking about the effectiveness of the ghillie.

I am referring to the time it takes for any player to decide if he is friend or foe. The cheatwookie on the other hand can see clear as anything your clear team marking.

That is hugely unfair and for the site owners to just say. Light them all up. Like I have seen at sites such as Reforger and a few others. Is equally fucking tarded. 
I’ve also seen an entire defence whipped out by a Ghillie exploiter, who just walked out of the forest. Behind them all and started shooting. Clearly no one had any clue he wasn’t on their side because his ankle band was covered by the fucking ghillie fabric hanging down. 

I am going to pack a tiny piece of hessian in my kit bag. Whenever I goto a site and they have this rule. I’m gonna stick it on. Declare myself Ghillied up and ankle up my arm band.

I suggest you all do the same. 

Also!!

Clearly..  I’m on one tonight

These Ghillie ankle twats all seem to run AEGs or cough “DMRs”

Should be a bolt action requirement in all situations 

 
Groot said:
These Ghillie ankle twats all seem to run AEGs or cough “DMRs”

Should be a bolt action requirement in all situations 
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I think you mean Wolverine MTWs. That's what I've been noticing; it seems like most ghillies these days like to run MTWs or other HPA m4s. Or they take the piss and run things like ARP9s with drum mags (you know the type of gun...)

I somewhat agree with the bolt action sentiment as I do think that if you want to wear a ghillie you should be in that "sniper" role, though some people like to run 1.1J sniper rifle builds like my m21 and SR-25. Both locked to semi and both obviously "sniper rifles", but they're 1.1J semi autos. Also, if someone's running in a pair with one person running a regular rifle and one is running a bolt action I have no issue; there was a pair at Worthing doing that today, both in ghillies and clearly running sniper/spotter setup which I thought was brilliant and I'd love to get some time doing the same.

Problem is how would they police that, and where would sites draw the line. Works more at milsim or filmsim events where you're going to fill a specific role in a squad or a civpop/insurgent cell, but at skirmish games you'd have lots of people with scrimmed up MTWs with LPVOs saying "no, it's a sniper rifle, look!"

Badgerlicious said:
It's easy enough to conceal the band from a particular direction if you put it on your forearm. Hiding it eslwhere is kinda dumb and I fully saction shooting the bush man if you can see a band. 
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Also this. If I get to a position, I'm tucking my arm in tight whether I'm in a ghillie or not. Tucking the arm in tight makes it impossible to see the armband regardless of if you're wearing a ghillie or not, unless you happen to look at that player from the specific side where it may be visible but even then it could be concealed by foliage or a tree or something.

 
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At Red alert the arm bands stay in place, otherwise your asked to leave. Just means that all the players have to up their game with not being spotted, which is a challenge in its own right - and fun when it does work.  The snipers in ghillies that I know do an exceptional job to be concealed and still follow the rules. Can’t see it being an issue…..

 
Perhaps put it on your pre game checklist to approach any Ghillies on your own TEAM and work with them, obviously they generally work alone but if a conversation can be had whereby you establish their general style of play and personal objectives etc or request that they support your squad from particular tactical positions and such then it would be less confusing and you just light up the rest, could also offer an advanced apology for the potential of friendly fire and give them an opportunity to say out loud no worries that's the risk we take.

In regards to band placement does it really matter when the suits fabric is going to cover it anyway? They spent a big budget on concealment let them have it, it ups the level of alertness and precaution you have to take and makes for more immersion in general. They get the advantage of concealment and a disadvantage of single shot bolt action fire etc which leads me to agree that if you wear a ghillie you should probably have to use a bolt action and a pistol to even it all out.

 
My rule, if they are facing me I shoot! if its a bush that moves I shoot, if its a bush that didn't move but glints in the sun, full auto it!

Teaches the chav's who wear backwards baseball caps a lesson too, 

At our site the marshals put the tape on the teams arm so no cheating allowed

 
But makes you look like the enemy right in front of me looking towards me. Instant head removal with a 7.62mm (well the 6mm bloodless airsoft version of it)

 
MadMole said:
baseball caps
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Never fails to amaze me when marshals wear hi-vis vests or jackets, but a camo cap.  If I was only going to make one part of my body day-glo, it would be my head.

(I know, I know, my profile pic :P  )

 
Still manage to shoot the marshals occasionally, especially when they walk right through your field of fire while you are engaged through a DMR scope, dayglo or not

 
Rogerborg said:
Never fails to amaze me when marshals wear hi-vis vests or jackets, but a camo cap.  If I was only going to make one part of my body day-glo, it would be my head.

(I know, I know, my profile pic :P  )
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…….. mumble, mumble ….. my dark woodland Dye baseball cap, my multicam baseball cap …..

MadMole said:
Still manage to shoot the marshals occasionally, especially when they walk right through your field of fire while you are engaged through a DMR scope, dayglo or not
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First person I shot in game was a Marshall …… shouldn’t have been walking out of a bush 

 
Rogerborg said:
Never fails to amaze me when marshals wear hi-vis vests or jackets, but a camo cap.  If I was only going to make one part of my body day-glo, it would be my head.

(I know, I know, my profile pic :P  )
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Not marshaling but taking photos I learnt this the hard way, a player could only see my head and fired thinking i was opfor. Fortunately I took the shots rather than the camera and since then I tied a hi vis around the hat. 

 
I wear mine round my leg when i'm wearing my ghillie, if the site allows it.

As others have mentioned, I run the risk of getting shot by friendlies but that happens some of the time anyway, regardless of where I put my arm band or what in wearing.

I've learnt no matter what you do, people will always moan. Wear a ghillie, someone will have an issue,  use HPA, someone will have an issue, wear a ghillie and use HPA, then you better look out for pitchforks ??

 
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leadly said:
I wear mine round my leg when i'm wearing my ghillie, if the site allows it.

As others have mentioned, I run the risk of getting shot by friendlies but that happens some of the time anyway, regardless of where I put my arm band or what in wearing.

I've learnt no matter what you do, people will always moan. Wear a ghillie, someone will have an issue,  use HPA, someone will have an issue, wear a ghillie and use HPA, then you better look out for pitchforks ??
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Thank you for coming forth and I ask this with the greatest respect. 

Do you not feel a bit shitty putting your arm band on your leg?

Do you not feel that everyone should then be allowed to put their on their legs too? I mean I guess it would then make it super hard for you to know who to shoot.. oh wait.... 

 
Groot said:
Thank you for coming forth and I ask this with the greatest respect. 

Do you not feel a bit shitty putting your arm band on your leg?

Do you not feel that everyone should then be allowed to put their on their legs too? I mean I guess it would then make it super hard for you to know who to shoot.. oh wait.... 
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It's the same argument you could have with the ghillie suit in general. It's not as if it's something that only im allowed to wear.

I've never seen any none ghillie wear it on their leg and I wonder if the site owners would have any issue with that?

But as a counter question, what about some of the sites that operate bands Vs none bands? Is one team cheating?

And also, (sorry for the incoherent format of this reply, just woken up after a night shift), what's the purpose of the band? To denote who's team your on or to make you stand out? Because as some of the replies to this topic would suggest, they're sole purpose is to make you stand out should you be trying to be sneaky and hide from the enemy team.

 
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If you’re asked to wear an armband on your arm by the Marshalls running the site and you then, without Marshall permission, remove said armband from your arm, to your leg or elsewhere, then you’re cheating and gaining an unfair disadvantage over others who are playing fairly by the rules. Simple.

 
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