G&Gs Supposed new line

[Adolf Hamster]

Just a double trigger (one pull = one shot but you can shoot vfast with two fingers) until more info comes out

fair enough, i do run a speed trigger in the m4 which you could get some pretty high rof on "semi" but i tend to mostly do double/triple. i reckon it's more a user than a gun issue if peeps are using them to full auto indoors.

My SUPREME apologies for the offence caused.  Never seen your shooter tbh mate, is there an airsoft AR 1-piece lower made of plastic?  Did you import a faxon handguard?  I nearly have a few times.

it's cool, mine's not a true interpretation as there aren't any decent 1-peice lowers i'm aware of, although i have occasionally contemplated if importing the lower and modding it to take a gearbox might work but i do run an m16 style stock out of preference (dont like adjustables) and recently managed to half-inch some carbon tube out of work to make a ghetto faxon handguard. it is very pointable which is nice and does sort of follow the spirit of the build whilst avoiding going too out of character.

 

[Musica]

Don’t think it’ll even be allowed in speedqb (closest thing to competitive speedsofts governing body) since double triggers aren’t allowed ?.

kinda seems like a mistake maybe it comes with a regular or something.

This adaption is safer I'd agree, but given all the risky releases I've seen in the past 14 or so years I disagree that no company would ever attempt to make a pure competition type gun.

G&G make a licensed cobalt kinetics competition shooting gun and designed a magazine that drops out of the gun when empty. They seem ballsy but with CMs and ARPs everywhere they have consumer loyality so they might be one of the companies who can afford to R&D stuff.

 

[TheFull9]

G&G make a licensed cobalt kinetics competition shooting gun and designed a magazine that drops out of the gun when empty. They seem ballsy but with CMs and ARPs everywhere they have consumer loyality so they might be one of the companies who can afford to R&D stuff.

Hm.. partly, there's plenty of companies out there with solid revenue streams from mainstream products who still never do anything different and play it safe.  I've handled the Cobalt AEG at SHOT, frankly if they made mags for it that were super-resilient to drops I'd buy one as I love the real thing, but I don't think it's a gun that'd have any use in airsoft outside of IPSC and other similar style airsoft shooting competitions.

 

[Musica]

Hm.. partly, there's plenty of companies out there with solid revenue streams from mainstream products who still never do anything different and play it safe.  I've handled the Cobalt AEG at SHOT, frankly if they made mags for it that were super-resilient to drops I'd buy one as I love the real thing, but I don't think it's a gun that'd have any use in airsoft outside of IPSC and other similar style airsoft shooting competitions.

it's actually just the mags that fall so you can use different mags or use those mags in a different gun and still get the drop on empty effect. From what I understand it has the g2 gearbox so if  you used a g2 mag it would support stop on empty instead of drop on empty. Bit long for my liking even with stop on empty.

 

[Aengus]

Hearing integrated tracer unit for the cabron fibré model which is interesting. Weird box on the back is for the mosfet it turns out. 2020 release. Other than that there’s no real info .

 

[Tec-Spek]

That 4 finga trigga though.

I won't lie, I did the air test, didn't feel right flapping my 4 fingers back and forth like some weird sideways come on signal.

 

[Rogerborg]

No problem with that.  It doesn't do anything that you can't make any other airsoft toy do with enough fiddling.  And at least it's going to catch the marshals' attention and get you watched like a hawk, unlike some hair-triggered generic M4.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

No problem with that.  It doesn't do anything that you can't make any other airsoft toy do with enough fiddling.  And at least it's going to catch the marshals' attention and get you watched like a hawk, unlike some hair-triggered generic M4.

there's nothing wrong with an m4 with a hair trigger and no safety

except when tapping the buttplate is enough to make it fire, then you might have gone too far......

tbf i've always wondered why speed gamers bother with "semi auto" surely allowing a mechanically capped full auto would (ironically) be safer.

 

[Aengus]

tbf i've always wondered why speed gamers bother with "semi auto" surely allowing a mechanically capped full auto would (ironically) be safer.

All the paintballers that are involved in it say exactly that. Similar to how tournament pb has rps caps ramping etc.

 

[Rogerborg]

One reason might be the fantasy that it will become a professional sport with sponsorship for the top teams, which means an arms race of super-pew-pew guns from sponsoring manufacturers.

Evidence: this thread and this gun.

 

[HuttArmouries]

The one aspect I genuinely don't understand is the hinge point for the stock being lower down than on any other similar weapon and the fact it folds down, but only part way because then the pistol grip stops it.  No idea if there's some aspect of speedsoft that makes it desirable.

The point of the stock is so you can use big masks easily.

 

[PopRocket123]

there's nothing wrong with an m4 with a hair trigger and no safety

except when tapping the buttplate is enough to make it fire, then you might have gone too far......

I run a pretty standard looking M4 but with a Gate Titan set up for precocking and the most sensitive trigger setting. What people don't seem to get is that just because it's set up for instant trigger response doesn't automatically mean I'm going to abuse it. I bet if I set it up in a more traditional "speedsoft" layout I'd get a lot more scrutiny

 

[Adolf Hamster]

I run a pretty standard looking M4 but with a Gate Titan set up for precocking and the most sensitive trigger setting. What people don't seem to get is that just because it's set up for instant trigger response doesn't automatically mean I'm going to abuse it. I bet if I set it up in a more traditional "speedsoft" layout I'd get a lot more scrutiny

Same thing with mine, polarstar'd with pretty much a mouse click trigger, although ironically mine does have the whole tubular carbon frontend speedsoft look to it (my ghetto interpretation of what would stoner do), ironically it gets used mostly as a dmr (1j flat limit here means its a hilarious counter sniper gun)

 

[PopRocket123]

Same thing with mine, polarstar'd with pretty much a mouse click trigger, although ironically mine does have the whole tubular carbon frontend speedsoft look to it (my ghetto interpretation of what would stoner do), ironically it gets used mostly as a dmr (1j flat limit here means its a hilarious counter sniper gun)

Mine shoots 1.1j on the dot and can still put the wind up a sniper. I had one come find me after a game to tell me how terrifying it was to be shooting at the limit of his range only to get a burst his way in return

 

[Rogerborg]

terrifying

Did he nearly died?

 

[RobHedley]

asg shadow pistol competition type thing which seems to have flopped considering I’ve never seen one outside of a shop. 

I have an ASG CZ SP-01 Shadow and it rocks! Always getting man handled by other Airsofters admiring. The Pistol that is is, not me ?. Also was playing at the Prison down in Portsmouth and there were 3 guys there with them. Maybe Combat South are the only guys who have sold them??

Unless you are talking about the Shadow 2 but I haven't even seen one of those in a shop.

 

[XanderShadow]

Aesthetically... they're horrid. They've taken a step back and made them look like unfinished paintball guns with normal mags.

On a practical front.. is "Speedsoft" really enough of a thing to warrant a dedicated range of speed guns? Been doing airsoft for a fair few years and outside the forums; nearly never heard of it.

 

[TheFull9]

is "Speedsoft" really enough of a thing to warrant a dedicated range of speed guns? Been doing airsoft for a fair few years and outside the forums; nearly never heard of it.

Well do you reckon a large corporation like G&G does research and studies before the plow money in to new moulds and production lines?  I'd guess they probably do.

I don't specifically follow it at all, but I'm pretty sure the whole thing is orders of magnitude larger in the US than it is in the UK.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Well do you reckon a large corporation like G&G does research and studies before the plow money in to new moulds and production lines?  I'd guess they probably do.

I don't specifically follow it at all, but I'm pretty sure the whole thing is orders of magnitude larger in the US than it is in the UK.

tbf how much of that product is really new? the trigger, stock mount and the handguard?

everything else is just from their big bucket o' m4 bits.

but then that's a general problem for airsoft- slap a new handguard and stock on an m4 and act like you've somehow managed to create something new and interesting.

 

[Aengus]

On a practical front.. is "Speedsoft" really enough of a thing to warrant a dedicated range of speed guns? Been doing airsoft for a fair few years and outside the forums; nearly never heard of it.

Not so big in Britain. Generally does better in places with a younger average age due to what I'd assume is less strict laws keeping kids out. Far bigger in the US than anywhere else.