G&G Firehawk low ROF

[Sitting Duck]

I think that so called powerful motor is more torque than speed tbh

(ran some weird fps/rof tests and was still struggling to hit 18/19 rof

m105 silent piston + proper silent head this time with AOE etc....

Also think G&G AR latch or the spring to be more exact is $hit

the spring wire is like a pube with no way as robust as SHS

my CM18 AR latch snapped and spring was shot - SHS AR = sweet

halfway through converting my lame FH and the AR is letting it over-run on 11.1v sometimes

got odd fps and just noticed the hop up tiny spring has disappeared yet don't remember taking tiny barrel out lately ???

Just notice the hop all flopping about & no spring - ahh that is why I getting 190fps then - damn it

is cool though dropped CM18 top receiver barrel on there and was shooting 350-355fps - phew

so yeah proper silent cyl head did make a difference it seems & may keep it as is

and put hi-speed cm box/lower receiver @ 330 in firehawk setup I guess

jeez there's guns n bits everywhere atm..

Blow me this techy stuff is about 75% grief 25% success or my usual 2 steps forward then 1 step backwards ffs

My fet died on me too but shs hi speed and 11-12v was giving her hell at 30+ rps

hopefully in next day or two can build my own 3034 and see if that melts

plus got a cheap fet coming that I will see how long that lasts before I melt it

but yeah that so called Powerful G&G motor - not much faster and if is maybe torquey - wtf put 23:1 gears with say stock spring in there

could of been fine with normal motor on 23:1 gears yet Raider has 18:1 + stock motor

Really don't make sense to me wtf G&G were doing on these other FH's

 

[Lozart]

but yeah that so called Powerful G&G motor - not much faster and if is maybe torquey - wtf put 23:1 gears with say stock spring in there

could of been fine with normal motor on 23:1 gears yet Raider has 18:1 + stock motor

Really don't make sense to me wtf G&G were doing on these other FH's

23:1 is more of a torque up ratio than a high speed ratio.

 

[Sitting Duck]

yeah but it don't seem to make sense to me....

330fps standard spring out of box, why put it 23:1 set when all others have 18:1

FireHawk was shown off as nutty rof - so why drop it back ?

or did they run out of 18's or had a few TopTech's come back so toned it down ???

don't think I will get to bottom as to why but it is deffo slower rof to TT FH and maybe even Raider

(don't quote me not done a like for like chrono test on same battery etc... but still weird to me)

 

[Oshia]

I was hugely disappointed with my FH out of the box, its just a Combat Machine and not this fantastic high speed wondergun I was led to believe.
Fucking marketing ploy and it worked, I will be sticking to Magpul; they are expensive but they are built properly.

I'll keep the FH for CQB but I might replace the braking fet for a non-braking because the motor is either gonna snuff it or worse; blow up in my hand.

 

[Sitting Duck]

well maybe keep a shs ar latch handy

and yeah we was mugged by G&G

still could of been worse many have have the higher mosfet guns blow up

so could of been worse - but deffo sneaky stunt to pull without telling us

 

[Oshia]

I contacted G&G and they just told me to send it back to my supplier.

 

[Sitting Duck]

ooooooooohhhhhhhh

it would be interesting to see or ask say LWA zero one etc

if we just got a duff stop-gap batch or are they all no longer TT FH's

(me thinks now they CM's as they in that price range)

£140 for TT box - hi rate of fire, plus them flip sights, VS02 stock & duck bill flash are close to that is parts

(should flogg my 2 x VS02 stocks as got stubby's on there to stay now)

but on G&G site they show plain grip like our lamer editions

or was whippy version mainly destined for other markets like US

but US have orange flash hiders - yukkk

I dunno how good my local cqb one is but they sell a fair few of these at £30 less than FH + 2tone free del etc....

http://www.tacticalairsoftshop.co.uk/ak-m4-cqb-1632-p.asp

yup not got loud bitch flash but that gets on ya nerves sometimes and trust me

made it very very easy to hunt down my son & his FH on Saturday

 

[Snowdrop]

I emailed G&g after reading this thread as I am quite interested in one. They didn't really answer my question other than to say there was a limited edition version - with the contoured grip, and the standard with the plain grip.

 

[Sitting Duck]

yup that figures on what most of us have thought...

get a really good one out for reviews even if they lose a bit in cost/manufacturing

then the first batch sells out like hot cakes around Easter time

Next batch arrives in July - some was still TopTech but most normal CM

(have both versions bought in summer from a couple of places)

Most peeps wouldn't notice 15 Vs 20 rof very much unless you compared side by side

May open the TT version in the new year as spring has lost a bit of punch (just under 300 now)

Still a nice sexy gun - everybody comments on her & that is before you fire the loud 8itch

Though it is a shame, the lamer CM18 can beat the TT version with a few upgrades but

sneaky G&G could of told us about this...

They said at launch they where gonna be releasing an even faster one by end of year

I think they did TT version for launch and decided to leave it at that coz

they got enough problems with TopTech's mosfet's failing they probably thought best not

It is still a nice gun even in its CM spec and high fps & rof is not be all & end all

(I'm still crap at airsoft no matter what gun I am packing)

Finally it is worth remembering that in "General" terms - I mean this as it says btw

A gun has a limited life of XXXX shots before fail/rebuild

So it is not untrue to say the more shots or faster you fire

The sooner your gun will reach the XXXX shots !!!!!

(yes higher spec guns should be built a bit better/last a bit longer but you get the idea)

Plus higher speed/juice pushed through can mean more heat/wear

Still lovely like I keep saying just not as quick as it was

perhaps G&G may want you to think it might last a little longer

(nah - they mugged us with the recent batches - G&G bastids)

 

[Sitting Duck]

ignore - I fitted wrong spring in there it seems

damn it