finally finished my scar what u think

Quite true. To me,

High fire rate = waste of ammo & extra stress on internals so they won't last as long.

Plus if you prefer the less dickish style of gameplay you'd use semi only (I do). High rate of fire builds seem like a waste of money and like I said, ammo. You squeeze the trigger and 30 bb's bombard your target when really, you only need 1-10 depending on range, and atmospheric conditions.

Only time I'd ever go full auto is if there is a large group of targets (excess of five people within a five metre radius of each other) or some pleb isn't taking his hits.

Does sound nice though.

 
Mines a high ROF as its a support weapon but a 2 second pull of the trigger and it spits out about 7 or 8 rounds, that's enough to keep anyone's head down

I went mad on 2 people yesterday cause they wouldn't take there hits so a fair few of us complained through out the day about both of them and they got followed by the marshalls :)

 
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It's an impressive ROF, but it's not really true to the real weapon you are attempting to emulate; more like a 9mm SMG's ROF, such as an UZI or a Skorpion maybe. Both the light and the heavy SCARs do have quite high rates of fire, but yours looks around twice the ROF of the 5.56 SCAR to me. The heavy calibre SCAR is noted for its compensator and stock etc making it seem like a much lower calibre in terms of the recoil and barrel climb that it transmits, but even so, I think if it was pumping 7.62x51 rounds out at the rate yours is, you'd have a hard time keeping it on target (not to mention probably melting the barrel), as in spite of the SCAR heavy controlling recoil better than older weapons and dissipating heat quite well - thanks to its more modern design - the fact is, 7.62 weapons do still take some controlling and fire discipline when on full auto.

Of course it's your weapon, you can have it fire how you like, but personally, I prefer it when my airsoft guns have some parity with their real firearm counterparts, i.e. I would want an AK to be doing somewhere around 600 rounds per minute rather than 6,000 lol. I'm also more inclined to fire on semi, usually relying on a three round triple tap, which I find is just as effective at keeping people's heads down or hitting them as letting half my mag go would have been. It's why even though my GBB MP5K has a ridiculously high rate of fire on full auto, which is admittedly fun to demonstrate (It can empty the standard 20 round mag in less than a second on full auto, so even the longer 50 round mags I have would hardly be that practical either). Thus I would find it totally impractical as a weapon for CQB skirmishing (which is what the MP5K is supposed to be for) if I did not prefer to shoot on semi-auto as most SWAT and SF teams would also do.

So I think that high ROFs are more use for a p*ssing contest in the test area where your gun is being chrono'd than for practical purposes, since in a skirmish you're either on target when shooting or you're not, and if you're on target and people are taking their hits, then one round is as good as twenty. But, above all, airsoft is about having fun and doing what you enjoy, so if having a Minigun's ROF on your assault rifle is what floats your boat, then so be it. :)

 
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Mines a high ROF as its a support weapon but a 2 second pull of the trigger and it spits out about 7 or 8 rounds, that's enough to keep anyone's head down

I went mad on 2 people yesterday cause they wouldn't take there hits so a fair few of us complained through out the day about both of them and they got followed by the marshalls :)
You do realise that 4rps is considered pretty slow?

 
I wasn't going for true realism Chock, its fun for me to keep peoples heads down while others move in, as I'm always on a budget its improvise, adapt & overcome :)

As alot of people know, I'm ex infantry so was always in the mix, I love doing airsoft for the social side of it, being with like minded people but I'm really enjoying the support side of it :)

It doesn't spit out 4rps M_P, its more like 20 or 25, i wanted suppressive fire not spray and pray like a lot of people do, so many people I've witnessed have no clue about tactics so they pour money into a weapon

 
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If you do a 2 second trigger pull and it fires 7 or 8 rounds then it can't be 20 or 25 rps.

 
I see what your getting at but it was a guesstimate of how long I hold the trigger for, I fire in bursts but not just spray everything, I have trigger discipline and as its not real life, we can use as much ammo as we want

I can 100% garuntee its not that low of a figure

 
Personally I think high rof guns are more of a danger than high fps when skirmishing. Only reason I can think of for their existence is to intentionally hurt people. Saying that it does take some skill to get them working properly and reliably so appreciate the work that goes into building them. I concentrate my mods on accuracy, range and consistency. Only ever fire in semi even on hpa rigged to a hi-cap except when up against non hit taking.

 
I wasn't going for true realism Chock, its fun for me to keep peoples heads down while others move in, as I'm always on a budget its improvise, adapt & overcome :)

so many people I've witnessed have no clue about tactics so they pour money into a weapon
Oh I know that, and as I say, whatever floats your boat. But your topic did ask us what we thought, so I put what I thought.

You are correct of course when you say that a lot of people have no clue about tactics, especially when it comes to fire and move tactics with assault rifles and/or a squad support weapon, even though there is even quite often a clue as to what you should actually be doing in the name of the very weapon you are holding lol, i.e. 'squad support weapon', 'assault rifle', etc. It's obvious that all the many 'one man army' computer games, coupled with lazy AI in them which forces people to play them like that, and possibly stuff like action movies too, is where we can lay a lot of the blame. :lol:

Lots of people simply don't get that the way to win is invariably to be found in being a team player.

 
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It makes me laugh so hard when "Rambo" runs around trying to kill everyone and gets tagged the second he pops his head up :)

It wasn't me that started the thread and I always take criticism on board as I can come up with good ideas from it and learn so much, we all have our ways of playing and what roles we play :) it was originally my son who wanted me to turn it into a support type rifle and I believe it does just that, its not the best (compared to an M249) but it certainly keeps peoples heads down when I open up :)

 
Trust me it's as good as if not better than a 249. In airsoft they all shoot pretty much the same, being lighter and smaller is an advantage, an m249 is only better in that it looks the part

 
this is just my toy i have a polarstar dmr thats going to be my baby when its fully finished

 
Is always good to have a toy you can do crazy stuff to, my G5 is making me quite inventive and getting me trying out different set ups etc to see what works best! :-)

 
Jeez - out of interest what is that 40+ ???

SSG - 12 or 13:1 hi speed gears & beefy motor

or did ya go nutz on DSG build...

I got to 30+ on stock 18:1 & hi speed motor using 11.1v

but most likely will perhaps stick with either:

20 on 7.4v lipo

or

25 on 9.6v nimah or 9.9v life

That is more than fast enough in my book, to try & make her last a bit

may just stay around that & use speed or slightly lower rate if using hi torque motor

just made me own fet - bit rough on the layout/routing wires but don't matter as its first

attempt & still room in stubby stock for the fet & lipo

Congrats on ya build sir, hope she lasts a while

sounds amazing to me - congrats once again

 
its got 13:1 gears, SHS super high torque motor, 11.1 lipo, m110 spring and a aluminum swiss cheese piston. its fun but when i finish the polarstar i will post a pic of it anyone meets me on the field i'll be happy to let u try it

 
nice build and even just using 7.4v will ensure you can still give them hell if you so wish

note to me: avoid worthing/sussex as I may get owned (well more than usual)

 
What difference does using a lower gear ratio ?? other than making them a little faster to turn

What effects do they have on the piston etc ??

 
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