Do NOT buy from Flapjack

[Sitting Duck]

Know him?

Lets just say a R85 from Ireland didn't quite arrive in the condition I expected mainly down to packing - F*ck all

and I think he liked to buy up broken guns and "fix" - ahem

bits not quite intact and it locked with something rattling inside box - bargain

got a few quid knocked off but still a bad taste in my mouth

So yeah I feel ya pain as did a few others on here and though I said we need a min post count to sell

which stirred up a bin here briefly I think a few knew he was selling iffy guns to peeps not quite ukara'd yet

thus very little comeback

We kind of resolved it so I chose not to leave feedback, but a little later somebody else had more serious problems

I dunno how people can sell off stuff that is pi$$ poor - but plenty do in this world

(my own law is if it is crap - it is scrapped, just not worth hassle selling on crappy stuff)

Alas - not everybody has the same levels of integrity I guess

 

[Undieing_Lust]

290...Even more pissed off as on the Zeroin Forums he updated it 6 days ago selling it for 240...

Finally found the original sale description. "Looking to sell my ICS M4. This is the full metal version. A Magpul MOE stock, and hand guard have been added and a Magpul MVG will be included. It has also had a Surefire Flash hider added, giving it a unique look.

The rifle is superb,perfect choice for any airsofter. It was recently serviced, shimmed, greased, AOE corrected etc, I've also replaced the hop up rubber.

ACOG sight is not included, a rear sight will be included in its place."

Didnt get the rear sight I might add.

 

[Undieing_Lust]

Lets just say a R85 from Ireland didn't quite arrive in the condition I expected mainly down to packing - F*ck all

and I think he liked to buy up broken guns and "fix" - ahem

bits not quite intact and it locked with something rattling inside box - bargain

got a few quid knocked off but still a bad taste in my mouth

So yeah I feel ya pain as did a few others on here and though I said we need a min post count to sell

which stirred up a bin here briefly I think a few knew he was selling iffy guns to peeps not quite ukara'd yet

thus very little comeback

We kind of resolved it so I chose not to leave feedback, but a little later somebody else had more serious problems

I dunno how people can sell off stuff that is pi$$ poor - but plenty do in this world

(my own law is if it is crap - it is scrapped, just not worth hassle selling on crappy stuff)

Alas - not everybody has the same levels of integrity I guess

Dead on right about the packing....Mine was wraped in news paper and cardbord...I can upload pics if anyone wants to see it.

 

[Sitting Duck]

YUP - f*cking carrier bags was my gun delivery

one end came off showing the front barrel but RM must have plopped it back on

well safe and good way to avoid suspicion ffs

yeah that sounds like same seller to me A++ & all that crap

wooo hoooo - my one thousand post - talking about dodgy sellers - just great

SOZ - but if this creates crap again - to hell with it.....

c'mon we need to put in place a min of say 250 posts or something

(one forum I was on different hobby, had to have a min 1k posts to sell on PS3Hax Forum)

There was times some peeps have come on to sell but have been able to prove/supply good ebay feedback

Otherwise - well you can guess the possible results

Yes it is buyer's responsibility to check blah blah blah...but

if no min requirements - even a few basic ones like even 100 posts ffs

this will show they are on here and may be able to contact them to resolve issues

Otherwise this forum is washing it hands and "could" be seen to turn a blind eye to it

Buyers responsibility & all that - yeah but ffs at least make it a little more difficult for some sellers

Soz mods - not having a go but think perhaps we need to have a vote/poll on this and go with results

let majority decide if a min post count might help

Anyone not of that level can either provide valid reference or something

Or we can just let anybody join up and sell bodged up pieces of crap not fitting to the description

Yeah what a great 1,00th post ffs

soz if any of this offends but feel I had to say it

 

[Undieing_Lust]

Post on Zeroin.

http://forums.zeroin.co.uk/showthread.php?255741-Do-NOT-buy-from-Flapjack&p=1376444#post1376444

 

[Josh95]

wow £290 is a lot I feel for you,

Its a shame you gifted it otherwise you could have just withdrew the money.

When you gifted the money did you leave a note? maybe you can contact paypal and try to get a refund i dont know

 

[Cheeky vimto]

290...Even more pissed off as on the Zeroin Forums he updated it 6 days ago selling it for 240...

Finally found the original sale description. "Looking to sell my ICS M4. This is the full metal version. A Magpul MOE stock, and hand guard have been added and a Magpul MVG will be included. It has also had a Surefire Flash hider added, giving it a unique look.[/size]

The rifle is superb,perfect choice for any airsofter. It was recently serviced, shimmed, greased, AOE corrected etc, I've also replaced the hop up rubber. [/size]ACOG sight is not included, a rear sight will be included in its place." [/size]

Didnt get the rear sight I might add.[/size]

Gutted for you., that's a lot of cash to lose. definitely don't gift anything more than £20 unless it actually is a gift. Some people are really shitty..

 

[Cheeky vimto]

wow £290 is a lot I feel for you,

Its a shame you gifted it otherwise you could have just withdrew the money.

When you gifted the money did you leave a note? maybe you can contact paypal and try to get a refund i dont know

Doubt it'll work. Clearly states by paypal they can't protect your money when you gift it.

 

[PT247]

maybe reporting him to Paypal may mean they lock his account anyway if you told them he told you to gift it as he is going outside of their T&Cs?

 

[Cheeky vimto]

maybe reporting him to Paypal may mean they lock his account anyway if you told them he told you to gift it as he is going outside of their T&Cs?

They both went out the T&Cs when he bought something but gifted the cash.

 

[team flex]

Gutted for you., that's a lot of cash to lose. definitely don't gift anything more than £20 unless it actually is a gift. Some people are really sh*tty..

yes, when I was selling virtual gold, I had someone charge back for £2... no joke. Sorry for you man, try and message one of the mods, maybe they will lock his threads and you can talk before he scams anyone else

 

[Jambo88]

What a dick. How much would the gun be worth in present condition?

 

[Undieing_Lust]

Not alot... Only good parts would be upper and lower GB + Stock, handguard and pistol grip...

 

[DEDSEC]

Since he's already been identified on ZeroIn we may as well let others know on here (in case of re-regging).

He seems to be pretty active on Facebook too. Lads names Jamie and he's from Dublin, Ireland. Just be weary those details if buying/ selling/ trading with someone as it may be Mr "Flapjack" undercover...

 

[CES_williamson]

unlucky dude hope he sorts it out as that is not good!

 

[Lozart]

Can we get all his sales threads here locked? Seems this bloke is a serial scammer. He's got several items for sale now.

 

[Shortenhauzen]

Not good , Always someone ready to take the pi$$ . Happens on many forums Air Rifles , Fishing etc they have no shame, People need to be informed when it happens in the hope it stops anyone else getting done .

Hope you get it sorted

 

[SeniorSpaz87]

I have a feeling that I may be lynched for posting this in here... But I've never had a problem with him. Bought an mp40 from him, and had none of this drama...

 

[Sitting Duck]

I tend to think you may have been very very lucky

rather than myself/undying being extremely unlucky

maybe he got a good working mp40 in a deal but reckon other guns may have been patched up & sold on quickly

 

[ak2m4]

Man, so sorry to see this type of scamming. £290 is a lot of cash for this, aren't they around that price new?