Custom setups

[L3wisD]

And don't get me started on the fucking Allen key callouses!

 

[Jedi_Master]

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to pitch my idea on dragons den:

IKEA furniture that I build for the customer.

There are actually people that do that and get paid to put Ikea furniture together.  I am an expert on assembly of Billy bookcases.

 

[L3wisD]

There are actually people that do that and get paid to put Ikea furniture together.  I am an expert on assembly of Billy bookcases.

Sweet, next time I go to calcot, I'll give you a call

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

you would lose all your profits smashing up your tools in frustration!

And the fact that every set of instructions say 30 minutes but it takes 6 hrs. 

Only thing worse is Lego.

 

[Adolf Hamster]

And don't get me started on the fucking Allen key callouses!

Have you not been introduced to the way of the hex driver?

As others have said, I (and I'm sure others) have spent hours fiddling with Molle to try it on and go "fuck, just needs to be one row lower" etc which makes it pointless to consider buying a pre "assembled" plate carrier and pouches.

The 10 step programme to a molle life-

1. Spend a week designing molle rig

2. Go airsofting

3. Realise that mag pouch location isnt as slick in the field as youd like and you cant reach your bipod behind your back, also that grenade pouch dont half dig into you when you lie down and man does that pistol lanyard catch on your sling.

4.spend a week re-sorting the layout

5. Go airsofting again, with all the problems fixed.

6. Do nothing for a week

7. Go airsofting again, but it was cold so you used the c02 pistol, but the mags dont fit your normal tacticool quick draw holder so you had to use a normal pouch then realise you had nowhere to put your speedloader.

8. Spend a week re-organising your kit

9. Go airsofting

10. Return to step 1

 

[Druid799]

There are actually people that do that and get paid to put Ikea furniture together.  I am an expert on assembly of Billy bookcases.

There are indeed , my nephew for one he’s a fully qualified chippy but makes an absolute killing put IKEA together for posh millennials who haven’t got a fecking clue what to do ! Little shit that he is , no one pays me to do it !  

 

[Gepard]

Not something that would interest me at all and I doubt there's a market for it on a scale where you could make even a small profit. 

Give it a shot though if you think it's the next big thing. You've got your user input so take it or leave it..

 

[Druid799]

Was kinda hoping for some optimism and motivation, and I totally agree my guy, my new naval JPC with fixed Velcro’s pouches arrived today so it’s anoter option, also I’m not doing this so people don’t have to fit their own molle?‍? it’s a cool idea where people can gather ideas and if they like the look of it they can order it 

Sorry pal but that simple statement even more convinces me that your either A;  a  kid being a troll (but don’t think it’s half term any where) B; your an Asian retailer trying to get in too the UK market (best of luck with that!) or C; you do genuinely believe this is a good idea ! Unfortunately whichever you are you most definitely are going no where fast .

 

[Albiscuit]

And the fact that every set of instructions say 30 minutes but it takes 6 hrs. 

Only thing worse is Lego.

I fucking LOVE lego... ? 

 

[Gepard]

I fucking LOVE lego... ? 

Haha me too! I don't care what anyone says. Lego is awesome! I just wish I had more space to store it.

I ordered this last week: https://bit.ly/2IdNxb2. It's going right on my desk at home. 

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

I fucking LOVE lego... ? 

Spend two days building a ghostbusters firehouse at xmas then have your 7yr old pass you another model of over 2000 pieces and say "this one next" and see if you still do.

 

[The broadsman]

Nope, a completely dumb idea.

You don't have a brick and mortar store or a registered business, doubt you will be purchasing any level of stock at trade prices...Now, if you are designing and producing your own gear in house and retailing it, you might have some interest.

I really shouldn't be encouraging but meh

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Haha me too! I don't care what anyone says. Lego is awesome! I just wish I had more space to store it.

I ordered this last week: https://bit.ly/2IdNxb2. It's going right on my desk at home. 

That is not lego that is fucking blasphemy 

 

[Gepard]

That is not lego that is fucking blasphemy 

At least it's not Mega Bloks! 

I've spent so much on Lego I'm quite happy to go with the knock offs when there's a cool model I want to build at 1/5 the price. 

 

[MILITATED]

Apply this idea to another context and you will see why you are getting the responses you are. Imagine heading down to your local supermarket and suddenly, some random bawbag comes up to you and says "I'll pick up all ye shopping and put them in carrier bags for ya and leave it at the till for you to pay. Just pay me an extra 40% of the cost of your shopping". The fact that you want 40% more for getting a few bits together and weaving a bit of MOLLE, which will almost definitely just get picked apart and rearranged on receipt, is laughable.

The only time I have seen something like this work is when UKTactical offer "premade" setups, such as their 5.56 Warrior DCS carrier (comes with a few 5.56 pouches and utility pouches or something), or their similar belt setups. The reason they would sell is because they were considerably cheaper than buying it all separately. Not because they put a 40% mark up on it. Even then, UKTactical almost always have either a 10% or 20% discount code active to bring the cost down further - it is rarer to see their stock at normal price.

Furthermore, the DCS is also not some random unbranded or cloned carrier from China and UKTactical/Warrior Assault Systems are very highly reputable companies. A 40% increase for a Chinese JPC and couple of pouches will not be popular. You would have to order in large quantities to even get a small discount from a supplier, which would be a massive investment.

There are very few money making options for those looking to start an airsoft business. Good examples include services people actually need/want, such as bespoke Kydex holsters or 3D printed parts. Adding a triple M4 pouch to a plate carrier at a higher price when you could just use the search bar and add those two items to your basket on any other website is not a good example.

Long story short; it will only work if you are working for the airsoft community, instead of milking them for considerably more money than required. Majority are on a tight budget as it is.

As aforementioned, kit buying is usually two-stage. Cheap China crap -> Gucci gear. Very few will opt for a "bundle of cheap China crap at a higher price" between those stages. Unless you happen to draw in a brand new player with more money than usual, that is. It is already bad enough with UK companies importing a $20 plate carrier and then listing them for £50, or something like that. 

Personally, I would not buy a premade setup. A big part of airsoft for me is customising my gear to my exact specifications and I doubt you would stock much that is desirable, because the Gucci side can be picky and expensive.

I have given my opinion, which I rarely do, but it is 5:48am and I can't get back to sleep. By now, you may notice that it is not a particularly popular idea, judging from these responses. Take all this on board because, to put it simply, AF-UK is one of the last places made up of genuine and decent airsoft players; you would probably be laughed out of an airsoft Facebook community, for instance (after a considerable amount of piss-taking with no real feedback).

If an airsofter wants a bundle setup, they will most likely just go to the classifieds and buy a second hand setup for much cheaper than it would all cost brand new.

Best of luck.

Edit: To be honest, if I saw this service a few years ago, I would use it. Just not how you would expect. I would browse the premade setups and then just Google the individual components and buy then elsewhere for cheaper, assuming I saw something I liked. 

Unfortunately, this is just a service that pretty much no one in the airsoft community has actively requested.

 

[MisterG]

What a crock of shit, nobody generally knows straight off where they want their pouches etc, its usually a trial & error deal, learnt while actually using the kit.

As for you KM-tactical300, why are you asking for opinions when your not prepared to listen to the answers ?, clearly your doomed to fail lol

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I moved my pouches around a few times even before my first skirmish, and a few times after.

As a newish player to airsoft I am probably closer to your target demographic, but I doubt I would have used a service like this.  A few people might go for this, but not enough to make this a viable long term business.

Part of the fun was researching and working out what I would need.  Bought some stuff I probably don't need, but it was cheap from China and I can always sell on eBay.

Before the era of Amazon and eBay this might have stood a better chance.

I think you got some good market feedbback here, before committing to spending loads of money.

Good luck if you decide to go ahead.

Cheers

G

 

[KM-tactical300]

The hassle of ordering from China?

Apart from the delay in waiting for it to arrive, it's no more laborious than ordering from Amazon.

But please, if you have an East India Co. esque gateway to the Far East with which to spoil us simple UK airsofters, don't let us stop you.

As others have said, I (and I'm sure others) have spent hours fiddling with Molle to try it on and go "fuck, just needs to be one row lower" etc which makes it pointless to consider buying a pre "assembled" plate carrier and pouches.

Your best bet is to target newbies and chavs migrating from CoD who don't know that A) you can get better, cheaper kit from Poland B) how much fiddling it fuckin takes to get set up nicely.

It doesn’t even have to be premade but it can just come as a package, if on our website people like how it looks because we will model it in our airsoft gear they can just order certain parts I think it’s a good idea 

It doesn’t even have to be premade but it can just come as a package, if on our website people like how it looks because we will model it in our airsoft gear they can just order certain parts I think it’s a good idea 

Ok ordering from China can be a haste if that item only comes from China hence why you ordered it, now if we can source these items but have them shipped in the uk with faster shipping, people are willing to pay a little more for the time convenience 

Nope, a completely dumb idea.

You don't have a brick and mortar store or a registered business, doubt you will be purchasing any level of stock at trade prices...Now, if you are designing and producing your own gear in house and retailing it, you might have some interest.

I really shouldn't be encouraging but meh

What other website will let you design, create and see a plate carrier set up before you order it to see if it looks good ? If there is one I’ve never heard of it! 

Apply this idea to another context and you will see why you are getting the responses you are. Imagine heading down to your local supermarket and suddenly, some random bawbag comes up to you and says "I'll pick up all ye shopping and put them in carrier bags for ya and leave it at the till for you to pay. Just pay me an extra 40% of the cost of your shopping". The fact that you want 40% more for getting a few bits together and weaving a bit of MOLLE, which will almost definitely just get picked apart and rearranged on receipt, is laughable.

The only time I have seen something like this work is when UKTactical offer "premade" setups, such as their 5.56 Warrior DCS carrier (comes with a few 5.56 pouches and utility pouches or something), or their similar belt setups. The reason they would sell is because they were considerably cheaper than buying it all separately. Not because they put a 40% mark up on it. Even then, UKTactical almost always have either a 10% or 20% discount code active to bring the cost down further - it is rarer to see their stock at normal price.

Furthermore, the DCS is also not some random unbranded or cloned carrier from China and UKTactical/Warrior Assault Systems are very highly reputable companies. A 40% increase for a Chinese JPC and couple of pouches will not be popular. You would have to order in large quantities to even get a small discount from a supplier, which would be a massive investment.

There are very few money making options for those looking to start an airsoft business. Good examples include services people actually need/want, such as bespoke Kydex holsters or 3D printed parts. Adding a triple M4 pouch to a plate carrier at a higher price when you could just use the search bar and add those two items to your basket on any other website is not a good example.

Long story short; it will only work if you are working for the airsoft community, instead of milking them for considerably more money than required. Majority are on a tight budget as it is.

As aforementioned, kit buying is usually two-stage. Cheap China crap -> Gucci gear. Very few will opt for a "bundle of cheap China crap at a higher price" between those stages. Unless you happen to draw in a brand new player with more money than usual, that is. It is already bad enough with UK companies importing a $20 plate carrier and then listing them for £50, or something like that. 

Personally, I would not buy a premade setup. A big part of airsoft for me is customising my gear to my exact specifications and I doubt you would stock much that is desirable, because the Gucci side can be picky and expensive.

I have given my opinion, which I rarely do, but it is 5:48am and I can't get back to sleep. By now, you may notice that it is not a particularly popular idea, judging from these responses. Take all this on board because, to put it simply, AF-UK is one of the last places made up of genuine and decent airsoft players; you would probably be laughed out of an airsoft Facebook community, for instance (after a considerable amount of piss-taking with no real feedback).

If an airsofter wants a bundle setup, they will most likely just go to the classifieds and buy a second hand setup for much cheaper than it would all cost brand new.

Best of luck.

Edit: To be honest, if I saw this service a few years ago, I would use it. Just not how you would expect. I would browse the premade setups and then just Google the individual components and buy then elsewhere for cheaper, assuming I saw something I liked. 

Unfortunately, this is just a service that pretty much no one in the airsoft community has actively requested.

Ok i only read the first paragraph of your bible but the extra 40% will be what you normally pay from any big retailer?‍ We would sell an entire setup for £90 where you could go to Taiwan gun and buy it all individually for £90. ? I’m not adding extra 40% to stick on a few molles that’s retarded...

It doesn’t even have to be premade but it can just come as a package, if on our website people like how it looks because we will model it in our airsoft gear they can just order certain parts I think it’s a good idea 

Ok ordering from China can be a haste if that item only comes from China hence why you ordered it, now if we can source these items but have them shipped in the uk with faster shipping, people are willing to pay a little more for the time convenience 

What other website will let you design, create and see a plate carrier set up before you order it to see if it looks good ? If there is one I’ve never heard of it! 

Ok i only read the first paragraph of your bible but the extra 40% will be what you normally pay from any big retailer?‍ We would sell an entire setup for £90 where you could go to Taiwan gun and buy it all individually for £90. ? I’m not adding extra 40% to stick on a few molles that’s retarded...

We would make money because a registered business can apply for trade price and get better deals

 

[MILITATED]

Ok i only read the first paragraph of your bible

Requests feedback, does not read it. Maybe you will make a good airsoft company afterall ?

Did you want actual feedback, or just praise?

Regarding your "I will sell it all for £90 or they can buy it individually for £90" thing (loosely quoted), you are forgetting something important, which is covered in the second part of my "Bible" which you didn't bother reading. Retailers are always having promotions and discount codes. That £90 will very often be reduced drastically, whereas yours will stay £90 (assuming you manage to source everything cheap enough to make a 40% profit).

I will keep this one short.

 

[L3wisD]

Ok i only read the first paragraph of your bible

Then you're an idiot and I urge all other members on here to leave you to it.

>Ask for feedback

>Recieve feedback

>Gets shitty when he realises we aren't all falling over ourselves over his terrible idea.

 

[E21A]

It doesn’t even have to be premade but it can just come as a package, if on our website people like how it looks because we will model it in our airsoft gear they can just order certain parts I think it’s a good idea 

Yea, as already stated (buy me and others) there are websites that do this already at a discount over buying the parts individually. Unlike your idea where it costs the same