Buying a gun without having a UKARA YET!!

[Tommikka]

See I don’t get this. Surely just being on site and playing once or twice is a valid defence therefore they no longer need to hold it until some arbitrary point (the obtaining of a ukara I’d assume.)?

Having played once or twice doesn’t necessarily mean you would plan on playing as a skirmisher.

Especially once .... consider a bunch of lads or ladies go on a stag or hen do, they choose airsoft at an activity centre and have played once

They decide the guns are cool and go shopping so they can shoot each other at night when ragging their boy/girl racers around Tesco’s car park

We have precident that having played once does not make you a player of the game.

Delta Force have attempted to claim that the disclaimers signed by every single person to have ever played paintball and signed a disclaimer form at their sites makes their UKPBA a governing body with the largest membership of paintball players 

The Home Office laughed at them and only recognise the UKPSF and their site / player membership registrations 

 

[Asomodai]

... if that happened, we might all suffer.

See this is the crux of the issue. We are afraid to report problems with the current system due to a chance of a blanket ban on all RIF's. So we are stuck with this half baked system. 

Personally I think we should have a bonified, paid for license, renewable every year. Something with the same entry requirements as UKARA, but that covers not only the sale of RIF's but the persons right to own and use RIF's. It might sound more restrictive then what we have now, but with all the incidents we hear about RIFS being used in crime reported in the media, we need to stem the flow of RIFs going to average Joe and to reduce the bad press on people who do use them responsibly. 

 

[Aengus]

See this is the crux of the issue. We are afraid to report problems with the current system due to a chance of a blanket ban on all RIF's. So we are stuck with this half baked system. 

Personally I think we should have a bonified, paid for license, renewable every year. Something with the same entry requirements as UKARA, but that covers not only the sale of RIF's but the persons right to own and use RIF's. It might sound more restrictive then what we have now, but with all the incidents we hear about RIFS being used in crime reported in the media, we need to stem the flow of RIFs going to average Joe and to reduce the bad press on people who do use them responsibly. 

 Fuck the kids right! 

 

[Rogerborg]

Try British Airsoft Club

I'll say one thing for them, their site is a lot more detailed and lucid than UKARA.

 

[Jedi_Master]

See I don’t get this. Surely just being on site and playing once or twice is a valid defence therefore they no longer need to hold it until some arbitrary point (the obtaining of a ukara I’d assume.)?

Because most skirmish sites forllow the same guidelines as UKARA, of playing 3 times in not less than 56 days (2 months) to obtain their site membership.  They are satisfying themselves that you are genuine by playing 3 times over a period, and not just showing up for two consequtive weekends. Their site, their rules.

 

[Druid799]

There is always lots of talk about potential danger to the sport if and when guns fall in to the hands of chav’s and other general scumery and what’ll happen if they proceed to miss behave with them but how many actually do ?

I’ve heard of one or two incidents but not that many (and the ones I had were a pissed local thicko and a couple of kids) and both were ‘armed’ with crappy market place springers , and the way the country seems to be rapidly heading for implosion due to the ever increasing levels of street crime occurring all over the country one does wonder will RIFs ever really be considered a viable weapon for said pond life considering how easy it is to get all manner of knives and guns from B&M/the corner shop/on-line/dark web/etc and the fact if you aim a RIF at another wannabe ‘gangsta’ there’s a very real chance there going to aim back with a real gun !

 

[Rogerborg]

I agree that abuse of RIFS is not likely to result in new legislation, given that the headlines are about actual stabbings and shootings happening on a daily basis.

But every incident is an opportunity for the Daily Rant or some  grandstanding minister to get on a Think Of The Children kick.  Nobody needs assault-style toys, after all.