Pompeyairsofter36
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I am a beginner airsofter and want to go to Milsims, I live in Hampshire and am under 18 so its hard to find ones to go to.
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n1ckh
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I think he should've ended with "are there any milsim sites in or around Hampshire ??"
Cheeky vimto
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Where in Hampshire?
Pompeyairsofter36
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I'm in portsmouth and under 16.
NickM
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I'd suggest most milsims will be 18+ unless you have a supervising adult with you at the time in which case it might be 16.
The main reason might be safeguarding , if they had under 18's not with their own parents/guardians/supervising adult the staff (and if I'm honest anyone who would be alone with you potentially, which could be anyone playing) would have to be CRB/DRB checked. That's just common sense and realistically £40 per person is an unrealistic expense for most organisers.
You may have to wait a little while or get some friends involved who are old enough and responsible enough for organisers to count them as your supervising adult and get your parents/guardians approval.
The main reason might be safeguarding , if they had under 18's not with their own parents/guardians/supervising adult the staff (and if I'm honest anyone who would be alone with you potentially, which could be anyone playing) would have to be CRB/DRB checked. That's just common sense and realistically £40 per person is an unrealistic expense for most organisers.
You may have to wait a little while or get some friends involved who are old enough and responsible enough for organisers to count them as your supervising adult and get your parents/guardians approval.
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I think it's because it's MILSIM as in MILitary SIMulation. And unless the scenario is set in the middle of Africa, child soldiers aren't valid for the simulation part.
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SeniorSpaz87
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People lied about their age all the time when recruiting. And a lot of recruiters needed the bodies so badly they wouldn't ask too many questions as long as the kid looked passable.
What about people with massive guts or who can't do the 6 minute miles and do 1000 press ups and pull ups required to be an super special operator? Ban those guys too?
Samurai
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You know I would. 
But seriously, milsim is milsim because the players try to immerse in / simulate this military thing and for that things like this do matter. If the fat guy gets the order to patrol the area and can't climb up the hill, or he can't climb into the APC or there are tiny soldiers shouting like on a playground that will ruin the game. That's the same as not allowing high caps, or face masks.
On an average skirmish, everyone is a spec ops operator. On a milsim, you are infantry. You don't need to do 1000 press ups, but you might need to carry your mate.
Don't get me wrong, I respect and welcome kids on normal airsoft events, it's just about the milsim.
But seriously, milsim is milsim because the players try to immerse in / simulate this military thing and for that things like this do matter. If the fat guy gets the order to patrol the area and can't climb up the hill, or he can't climb into the APC or there are tiny soldiers shouting like on a playground that will ruin the game. That's the same as not allowing high caps, or face masks.On an average skirmish, everyone is a spec ops operator. On a milsim, you are infantry. You don't need to do 1000 press ups, but you might need to carry your mate.
Don't get me wrong, I respect and welcome kids on normal airsoft events, it's just about the milsim.
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BrightCandle
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Based on scouts and other camping out events with young adults and teenagers, there are legal requirements that assigned guardians must meet for looking after a group with minors. I doubt many milsim events want to take on those sorts of requirements considering they are mostly targeted at adults.
It might be possible to meet those requirements and potentially insurance if one of the OPs legal guardians attended as well, but the insurance might not cover it even then.
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Airborne Airsoft is in Hampshire. Longmoor site is amazing. Not sure on age limit.
NickM
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I know of at least one site that allows/used to allow parents to drop off under18's and the parents could then leave them for the day. However they barely passed the requirements for UKARA which was public liability insurance. It had been pointed out that unless they had someone or a group supervising the under 18's all day with a CRB/DBS certificate then they really wouldn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to the law.
If you operate a service that has under18s without parental supervision you require a nominated safeguarding officer, a safeguarding reporting procedure, and all staff to have safeguarding checks. I would take this all incredibly seriously as it's very easy for someone to make an allegation which could tie you up in legal issues and without the safeguarding training you'd be in a world of pain!
My DBS cost £50 originally although that may include a handling fee, and now costs me £13 a year to have the automatically updating one that should mean I never have to fill out those gawd awful forms ever again. Make that £50 for each employee/marshal every 3 years unless they get the updating kind and all of a sudden its starting to get very expensive.
Add to that the fact that some insurance companies might have a problem with unaccompanied minors and it's now too much hassle and too much of an expense to bother with.
If you operate a service that has under18s without parental supervision you require a nominated safeguarding officer, a safeguarding reporting procedure, and all staff to have safeguarding checks. I would take this all incredibly seriously as it's very easy for someone to make an allegation which could tie you up in legal issues and without the safeguarding training you'd be in a world of pain!
My DBS cost £50 originally although that may include a handling fee, and now costs me £13 a year to have the automatically updating one that should mean I never have to fill out those gawd awful forms ever again. Make that £50 for each employee/marshal every 3 years unless they get the updating kind and all of a sudden its starting to get very expensive.
Add to that the fact that some insurance companies might have a problem with unaccompanied minors and it's now too much hassle and too much of an expense to bother with.
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Mr Monkey Nuts
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Hang on a moment can you state the specific legislation that states a private business MUST safeguard children?
If that's the case then surely every sweet shop , tesco, bus company, bike shop, council gardener and every normal skirmish site would be required to DBS their staff and marshals?
Yes it's a very good idea to and in the wake of sir jimmy, but to what extent is it it legislated?
If that's the case then surely every sweet shop , tesco, bus company, bike shop, council gardener and every normal skirmish site would be required to DBS their staff and marshals?
Yes it's a very good idea to and in the wake of sir jimmy, but to what extent is it it legislated?
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