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Bad Publicity?

This is why I pine for the "good old days" of airsoft like some sort of old person, and I'm not even 30 yet. Back when I first started in 2006ish, I never saw any drama or had any major problems with the hobby. We were just a bunch of guys who met up at our local airsoft site every other Sunday and played toy gun fights in the woods. People didn't run hot guns, there were never any issues with headshots and we all just had a good time.


I tend to disagree with this as a generalisation, it was just much easier to be oblivious to. In my case, partially because I was younger and there were things I simply didn't understand back then... and partially because social media was less of a thing. Granted this was back in the age of the ASCUK forums where you still had a host of 'grumble' threads which tended to take very similar patterns to threads you see on here.

Thread about cheating:
'I hate cheaters.'
'I wish we could all be honest.'
'Marshalls should be better.'

[Someone mentions headshots]

'Just wear full face pro, if you don't it's your own fault.'

[Macho man storms in]

'Who cares it doesn't even hurt.'

[Someone asks if using 0.25g BBs is considered cheating]

'Someone questions why you'd use 0.25g when 0.2g BBs go further' (Note, as we now know this is not true.)

... So on and so forth...

Seriously, read through commonly occuring topics and tell me they don't largely wind up taking a very similar path until they fizzle out. I have no doubt that folks who have been around for a while have that 'here we go again' reaction when certain topics crop up.

Hell the only thing that's a huge amount different is now half of the threads include someone asking a question regarding UKARA (which wasn't a thing for a decent portion of my time on ASCUK).

TLDR, it's always existed... it was just easier to ignore/not be aware of.

P.S. Not intended as a dig at this, or any other forum for that matter, forums have been my prefered way of being involved in hobby communities for a long time. Threads on forums for more general topics around a niche hobby tend to be very cyclic, to a point dejavu can set in as you're reading through threads at times. My preference for forums over anything else is that it's simply much easier to filter what I do and do not wish to read and/or participate in coversation with.

 
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@ImpulseI understand your point re context but go and listen to and actually read the evidence as presented. Its difficult to find any context other than him being a massive fucking racist, its not borderline being misconstrued, its downright offensive to most sane people.  

As for is it relevant to airsoft?  I would argue it is.  If he, as a high profile member of the 'community' (I really dislike that word) is holding such views then it reflects on the rest of us if we allow him to remain part of that grouping and any failure to act to express our condemnation of these views could be viewed to be tacitly condoning them.  Therefore, its is absolutely right in my mind to link the two and call him out on them.  HOW you call them out on them (emphasis added) is the part that has been going wrong.

PS You say Marxist like its a bad thing :P

 
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You really have to view this as someone who has no interest in airsoft or has no connection to airsoft and may want to get into it. 
 

you see what’s happening what conclusions do you come to? 

 
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