Airsoft in the rain

[Stratton Oakmont]

I do have general concern for my EVO in the rain. what makes your AK better for this? 

It's a fixed stock LCT AK so I rear wired it and put the mosfet with the battery in there, heat shrinked everything else and so far so good

 

[Tackle]

Glad other people can see I'm not just being an arse because I'm "too cool for school" 

My main jacket is generally an old Berghaus jacket work supplied me with when I worked in out on sites. 

Generally Im driving a minimum hour to sites, sometimes more, that's my time & my fuel, then there's the green fees, which most organizers will do there best to keep hold off, especially if half the event has been played.

nothing wrong with taking exception to my (or anybody else's) time & money being wasted, all because some twat will spend a fortune on gats etc, but won't shell out £10-£30 on some protective kit or check the weather forecast.

 

[Nicky blue eyes]

You could always go the really cheap way which is a couple of black sacks with holes poked in them, both for you and the gun. My rain gear of choice is an old dpm jacket with enough fabsil sprayed on to rip the ozone layer another hole. Some of the best games I've had have been in the rain. Less players but better quality of play. Also better conversations in the safe zone and banter as well. I've paid to run around with a plastic gun and thats jolly well what I'm doing. Come rain or shine! Lol

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

Speedos and eyepro 

booyah!!!

 

[Sneaky]

Power through the rain and don have a change of clothes in the car.

 

[Rogerborg]

Actually C - make them think that maybe coming prepared to a day long event with less than disirable weather forecast with inadequate equipment wasn't a smart choice and quite possibly a waste of their game fee (which I think is about £55+ for longmoor on a battlesim)

They're already wet and miserable, I'd suggest they've very likely figured that out themselves.

My question is what exactly you think you'd be achieving by "taking the piss" out of them for it.

This is a hobby that requires active, willing, cheerful participation in the shared make-believe game that we're playing.

Do you want miserable people to stay on site just so that you can shoot at them?

After being taunted and harangued into staying, do you think they'll be minded to take hits from you? 

If they don't, what follows?  You kick them off site?

Surely you know how quickly grumpiness can spiral downwards?

^^^ this thread.

Edit: The thing I care less about by the way is what people think of an opinion I have.

Maybe repeat it a third time, with more feeling.

 

[clumpyedge]

They're already wet and miserable, I'd suggest they've very likely figured that out themselves.

My question is what exactly you think you'd be achieving by "taking the piss" out of them for it.

This is a hobby that requires active, willing, cheerful participation in the shared make-believe game that we're playing.

Do you want miserable people to stay on site just so that you can shoot at them?

After being taunted and harangued into staying, do you think they'll be minded to take hits from you? 

If they don't, what follows?  You kick them off site?

Surely you know how quickly grumpiness can spiral downwards?

^^^ this thread.

Maybe repeat it a third time, with more feeling.

I have been open with my disdain for players not being prepared for less than favourable weather when numerous others have also shared their displeasure for people wanting to leave early because of a bit of rain. I wouldn't kick anyone off site as its not my game to do so and even if it were if people walk because of weather that's their own undoing and not mine, I would concentrate my efforts on the people that have stayed and have prepared, after all they are the ones that seem to want to keep the fun going by continuing not just for their own gratification but also that of others. I don't think there has ever been a case of anyone dying from a bit of rain when playing Airsoft. I never said I would taunt anyone into staying or harangue anyone into doing something they don't want to do but calling someone out or a bit of light piss taking for potentially ending a game day for the majority who are having fun I would have no problem doing.

 

[Skara]

If people stay on site when raining for me (and others), I am then more likely to do something that may not please me for them.

Isn't it how it (should) works (-s)? At least between locals anyway, I wouldn't expect first timers to do it, but guys who've known each other for a long time should have this mindset..

Edit: Then again, I have absolutely no rights whatsoever to force people into situations they don't like, if they want to bail they're free to do it, it's more of a courtesy I'm asking from them.

2nd edit: being prepared for the weather in airsoft may even have consequences in real life, especially in the younger elements. Teaches them to foresee stuff and act accordingly.

It's what I do as a scout chief, if someone doesn't have rain gear for a trip, I won't do anything unless it becomes critical (and for sure I'm not canceling the trip because of awful weather). I'm quite confident they'll show up with at least a cheap poncho next time

 

[DrAlexanderTobacco]

They're already wet and miserable, I'd suggest they've very likely figured that out themselves.

My question is what exactly you think you'd be achieving by "taking the piss" out of them for it.

This is a hobby that requires active, willing, cheerful participation in the shared make-believe game that we're playing.

Do you want miserable people to stay on site just so that you can shoot at them?

After being taunted and harangued into staying, do you think they'll be minded to take hits from you? 

If they don't, what follows?  You kick them off site?

Reading back it's clear this is all a pretty nice strawman you constructed early on and have been maintaining since; Clumpy took the piss out of people online, as is his wont to do, and you took it to mean he'll be bullying people constantly on site.

He's right that people going to an 8-hour all-day all-weather game *with no chance to actually leave the site* should be a lot better prepared for playing in adverse conditions, especially since they weren't too much of a surprise with forecasts etc.

As I was saying earlier, irrespective of the morals of piss-taking these players directly worsened (effectively stopped) the game by choosing to stop playing, despite other people being more than happy to continue on. I would be more than happy for these fairweather players to fuck off and never come back - Frees up tickets for people who actually want to attend and give the day a proper go.

 

[Immortal]

I find I always turn up over prepared. Look's like a weeks worth of gear for a day out. Most doesn't even get used but I'd rather have it just in case. Backups for backups etc....

 

[1st commando]

I'm amazed that no one has pointed out the most obvious advice . Keep your muzzle pointed down !

 It's amazing how often I see people with muzzle up in the rain and then wonder why the hop doesn't work at all 

 

[clumpyedge]

I'm amazed that no one has pointed out the most obvious advice . Keep your muzzle pointed down !

 It's amazing how often I see people with muzzle up in the rain and then wonder why the hop doesn't work at all 

100% didn't even think to mention that but a very valid point!

 

[Musica]

I would be more than happy for these fairweather players to fuck off and never come back - Frees up tickets for people who actually want to attend and give the day a proper go.

Or the site dies because it doesn't have enough income? In an ideal world everyone who showed up would play the same way with the same honour and integrity but everyone's different and enjoys different things.  If they pack up and go home as long as they don't expect money back I don't see the big harm a site should be able to adapt to changing player count, weather and play styles to keep it fun. 

Another point is if you do actually drop below enough players to have a fun game then the majority has clearly spoken at that point. 

I am speaking entirely about regular walk on skirmish days not events planned in advance that might require head count to work. If people sign up for these they should do so knowing it might not be a good weather day and be prepared to tough it out at least a little. I have heard of a few events being called off or postponed because of rain don't know how common this is. 

I'm amazed that no one has pointed out the most obvious advice . Keep your muzzle pointed down !

 It's amazing how often I see people with muzzle up in the rain and then wonder why the hop doesn't work at all 

Excellent tip. 

 

[DrAlexanderTobacco]

I am speaking entirely about regular walk on skirmish days not events planned in advance that might require head count to work. If people sign up for these they should do so knowing it might not be a good weather day and be prepared to tough it out at least a little. I have heard of a few events being called off or postponed because of rain don't know how common this is. 

You're speaking past me then, because we are directly speaking about a specific event not related to a standard Sunday skirmish - you have constructed a strawman. I agree with you with regards to a Sunday skirmish. But we're talking about an event that has been directly threatened by people sodding off before it's over - the event organisers have said attendance issues like this will impact future events.

 

[Rogerborg]

Reading back it's clear this is all a pretty nice strawman you constructed

Thank, I have been doing this for quite some time.

Clumpy took the piss out of people online, as is his wont to do, and you took it to mean he'll be bullying people constantly on site.

Surely you're not suggesting a case of keyboard heroism?  I mean, I'm guilty of it all the time, but it's unfair to lump @clumpyedge in with me.

He's right that people going to an 8-hour all-day all-weather game *with no chance to actually leave the site* should be a lot better prepared for playing in adverse conditions, especially since they weren't too much of a surprise with forecasts etc.

As I was saying earlier, irrespective of the morals of piss-taking these players directly worsened (effectively stopped) the game by choosing to stop playing, despite other people being more than happy to continue on.

All of this is true.

We may differ on whether taking the piss (in person at the time or from the safety of a keyboard later) is a constructive response.

I would be more than happy for these fairweather players to fuck off and never come back - Frees up tickets for people who actually want to attend and give the day a proper go.

There you go with putting things in proper context again.  Where's the fun in that?

Sure, if it's some fully booked super leet milsim.

Most games aren't that though and most sites need more players, not fewer.

I will now seize the moral high ground by noting that on the few occasions when I've played outdoors in the rain, I brought a spare waterproof jacket to loan out.

Imagine a world where we helped each other to have a good day.

 

[DrAlexanderTobacco]

Sure, if it's some fully booked super leet milsim.

Which it was!

 

[Musica]

You're speaking past me then, because we are directly speaking about a specific event not related to a standard Sunday skirmish - you have constructed a strawman. I agree with you with regards to a Sunday skirmish. But we're talking about an event that has been directly threatened by people sodding off before it's over - the event organisers have said attendance issues like this will impact future events.

Yea I can understand the frustration more in these cases as they should be more committed to the event to a point at least. The thread was about a guy asking for advice and tips for playing in the rain so not sure how we specifically got on to only talking about a singular event that happened.

So far I've picked up 2 tips, get a cheap poncho (or two) and keep my muzzle down.  I've only been to two outdoor games and it lightly rained at one of them but it was more refreshing rain then getting soaked.  Did leave the grass soaking however which left my jeans below the knee absolutely soaking. Not sure if I should bother with waterproof trousers or not.  I like to do a bit of sprinting or bounding but unless I fork out for an expensive set of waterproofs I will be getting the boil in a bag issue when trying to do cardio in the rain.

Is it valid to be concerned about my AEG getting damaged in heavy rain? 

 

[Tommikka]

Is it valid to be concerned about my AEG getting damaged in heavy rain? 

That’s an interesting question.

People often say that water and electricity don’t mix, but they don’t understand electricity with the problem being that they do mix very well with the potential to short circuit or electrocute 

If the board(s) are coated and sealed, and any other connections along the wiring, battery etc are protected and/or relevant areas of the body are sufficiently sealed then there is little to no risk. Then define ‘heavy rain’ - is that the danger of something getting wet or electrical areas getting swamped?  Next do you clean & dry off or leave it in a cupboard with the board sat in a puddle somewhere inside the body?  Unless someone tests these out then you don’t really know

Even if the electrics are safe, are moving parts going to be affected or not by water?

I’ve had paintball guns, both mechanical and electrical in most weather conditions and have suffered two casualties:

One touch board switch decided to not turn on when I next tried it, but it was roughly 10 years old (also second hand when I bought it) and had been subject to Sennybridge rain and freezing conditions even though it didn’t get played with

The second was the mechanical gun which I did play with that day, but wiped it down and put it in the cupboard for a few years.  It had touches of rust on some parts when taken out again.  15 minutes after being handed to Tippmann tech it was up and running with a full service, polish and a couple of new parts

In paintball we are more concerned in keeping our balls dry

 

[Luke85]

I'll happily play in the rain, but like some people have already said, there comes a point where I draw a line. If its absolutely slinging it down and everyone looks like a drowned rat, standing water everywhere, and I'm more concerned about protecting my expensive electric toy gun than I am playing the game, it is no longer fun. Where it no longer becomes fun is clearly different for everyone, but its entirely down to the individual when they wish to call it a day. That said I don't see the harm in some light hearted banter if some players run for cover as soon as the rain starts falling. 

Something people haven't mentioned yet though is eye pro fogging up. Sunday just gone I played at Bawtry and was the worst conditions I've played in for fogging up. Combination of rain and humidity meant my usually reliable eye pro was fogging up along with everyone else's. We were all having to demist after every game, and given there were only 10 of us playing 5 on 5, they were short games.

End of the day If someone is miserable, cold and wet, they don't wont to risk damaging their AEG and they cant play 2 minutes without their eye pro misting up they are perfectly within their rights to say bollocks to this, this aint fun today. They are not in the military getting paid to train and fight come rain or shine, it is their own time and their own gear/guns they are risking with water damage. If some people leave, adapt. By mid afternoon on Sunday there were only 4 of us left, though it wasn't the weather that had forced the other players to leave (family, gear issues and car sharing). We just played some really quick and fun 2 v 2 and every man for himself games instead, and no-one cried about it what so ever. 

 

[Rogerborg]

it was [a fully booked super leet milsim ]!

Pfft, you could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.