Airsoft Argument

[Rogerborg]

Anyway, back to the OP, that was my argument. Seems to be split opinion on who was in the right, if any, but leaning towards person 2. Any guesses on which person I was?

PLOT TWIST: you were the illicit love child born from their forbidden union.

 

[AshOnSnow]

PLOT TWIST: you were the illicit love child born from their forbidden union.

Yeah, one arm is a VSR, the other is an M4. Skirmishes are very good, but sometimes I have difficulty in airports.

Interesting, mixed thoughts on which player I was, this is fun.

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Anyway, back to the OP

Nope still trying to swallow the fact you reckon you did some Steven Seagal shit and disarmed a player.

Was he

A: a bit special?

B: 10yrs old?

C : Did you wake up clutching a twisted pillow?

 

[AshOnSnow]

Nope still trying to swallow the fact you reckon you did some Steven Seagal shit and disarmed a player.

Was he

A: a bit special?

B: 10yrs old?

C : Did you wake up clutching a twisted pillow?

I only turned his pistol the other way and pulled the trigger, I think Steven Seagull shit might be a bit of an exaggeration ?

 

[AndyDynamic]

Yeah, one arm is a VSR, the other is an M4. Skirmishes are very good, but sometimes I have difficulty in airports.

Interesting, mixed thoughts on which player I was, this is fun.

PLOT TWIST Number 2 - you were not a player at all but a marshal! ?

 

[Sacarathe]

I only turned his pistol the other way and pulled the trigger, I think Steven Seagull shit might be a bit of an exaggeration ?

I'd call that cheating. Well, I think i'd call it cheating. I certainly call it a violation of consent. It's almost the same as as the only time I've ever been made angry in airsoft, when someone turned my muzzle away from them and shot me (at the mall). 

 

[AshOnSnow]

I'd call that cheating. Well, I think i'd call it cheating. I certainly call it a violation of consent. It's almost the same as as the only time I've ever been made angry in airsoft, when someone turned my muzzle away from them and shot me (at the mall). 

See I wouldn’t consider that cheating at all. Especially a place like the mall. It’s a war game, you consent to the chance of some light simulated melee at close quarters if it’s safe as soon as the game starts.

 

[Robert James]

See I wouldn’t consider that cheating at all. Especially a place like the mall. It’s a war game, you consent to the chance of some light simulated melee at close quarters if it’s safe as soon as the game starts.

You don't consent to someone touching you/your equipment at all. If someone touches my stuff without me telling them, unless my muzzle is in their face and they don't like that, it's going up their ads and coming out their mouth

 

[Druid799]

Problem I see with being alowed to turn/push/etc other players guns is there airsoft gun not real ones , and as I’m sure we’ve ALL learned to our horror some are made from Chinese Yak snot or some other equally crap material and break with just the gentlest of touches! ?  

so I for one would not be a happy little bunny if someone grabbed any of my kit in-game and would more than likely let them realise I was displeased with there actions . Savvy ? 

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

I'd call that cheating. Well, I think i'd call it cheating. I certainly call it a violation of consent. It's almost the same as as the only time I've ever been made angry in airsoft, when someone turned my muzzle away from them and shot me (at the mall). 

That wasn't me was it?

 

[Sacarathe]

That wasn't me was it?

No sir.

See I wouldn’t consider that cheating at all. Especially a place like the mall. It’s a war game, you consent to the chance of some light simulated melee at close quarters if it’s safe as soon as the game starts.

Marshals agreed with me. ?

 

[Rogerborg]

It’s a war game, you consent to the chance of some light simulated melee at close quarters if it’s safe as soon as the game starts.

Do I?  I didn't think so, but apparently I was mistaken.

 

[LightningCh]

I thought the only contact I consented to was being tapped with a rubber knife with the flat side against me? After all, that's all the "physically contact" they write on the disclaimer and explain during safety briefing.

I accept that some people may get a bit more physical despite I don't particularly want that in a skirmish day, but that's doesn't mean I gave permission for them to do so.

 

[whynotw4lk]

Personally, I'd find reenacting the knife scene from saving private ryan absolutely hilarious. However I completely agree with the only physical contact verbally consented to being knife melee taps and a light tap on the shoulder. Would never do it myself though, playing catch the assault charge lottery isnt high on my list of priorities.

I am also fully in the camp of player 2. Rules are rules accept responsibility when you decide to make up your own to be nice and it's not reciprocated.

 

[Tackle]

Marshals agreed with me. ?

Marshalls obviously a Dick, & I'm pretty sure he'd change his tune if he had to stand up in court & defend that viewpoint, especially if it concerned subsequent abh/gbh/affray type charges, all of which can command hefty custodial sentences.

As for airsoft being a FULL CONTACT sport, is it fuck, take it to any sites insurers & ask them about liability coverage if the site organisers stated that, either verbally or via site pages etc, the insurers would likely withdraw any coverage on the spot.

I played real contact sports professionally, insurance became a necessity in order protect against cases in the event of serious injuries, for both civil & criminal proceedings.

If anybody connected to, or involved with any registered site & encourages or endorses physical contact beyond a pat on the shoulder, they'd be a dumb motherfucker.

@OP, certainly picked a suitable title for this thread, opened a big can of worms.

So, were you player one or player two ?

 

[Aengus]

"Getting physical". First off lol. Second off no. It's just stupid this is a game where we shoot each other with toy guns not simulate war. If I played at a site and there was a twat trying to disarm everyone either I or him would be leaving. I play the game to shoot people not wrestle in close quarters with sad middle aged men.

 

[Robert James]

Personally, I'd find reenacting the knife scene from saving private ryan absolutely hilarious. However I completely agree with the only physical contact verbally consented to being knife melee taps and a light tap on the shoulder. Would never do it myself though, playing catch the assault charge lottery isnt high on my list of priorities.

I am also fully in the camp of player 2. Rules are rules accept responsibility when you decide to make up your own to be nice and it's not reciprocated.

I'd find it even better if someone threw their helmet at me and then a pistol comes flying over... Heaven. 

Edit: which bloody one were you. Christ.

 

[Sacarathe]

Marshalls obviously a Dick, & I'm pretty sure he'd change his tune if he had to stand up in court & defend that viewpoint, especially if it concerned subsequent abh/gbh/affray type charges, all of which can command hefty custodial sentences.

As for airsoft being a FULL CONTACT sport, is it fuck, take it to any sites insurers & ask them about liability coverage if the site organisers stated that, either verbally or via site pages etc, the insurers would likely withdraw any coverage on the spot.

I played real contact sports professionally, insurance became a necessity in order protect against cases in the event of serious injuries, for both civil & criminal proceedings.

If anybody connected to, or involved with any registered site & encourages or endorses physical contact beyond a pat on the shoulder, they'd be a dumb motherfucker.

@OP, certainly picked a suitable title for this thread, opened a big can of worms.

So, were you player one or player two ?

Agreed with me that it was wrong, against the rules, and not reasonable behaviour. I didn't say it was an automatic crime.

 

[clumpyedge]

This has a very similar feel to the debate around throbbing donkey at the moment in which his latest video he thrusts his pistol against the side of a guys head with finger on trigger and uses him as a human shield while shooting the guys team mates in front of him, at no point can in the brief or sign in (having played at the site) do you agree to be grabbed and used as a human shield.

 

[Tackle]

 sad middle aged men.

Who you calling a man ?

Agreed with me that it was wrong, against the rules, and not reasonable behaviour. I didn't say it was an automatic crime.

In a "sport" where adrenaline is high, tempers are often frayed, & testosterone is overflowing, Marshalls (essentially referees !), have to be on top of their game, this nanny snowdrop state we currently abide in seems to be looking to target anything controversial, which includes "nutters running around guns assaulting each other", I can see the headlines already

This has a very similar feel to the debate around throbbing donkey at the moment in which his latest video he thrusts his pistol against the side of a guys head with finger on trigger and uses him as a human shield while shooting the guys team mates in front of him, at no point can in the brief or sign in (having played at the site) do you agree to be grabbed and used as a human shield.

Bit of horseplay between genuine mates is fine, but if a bloke you've never met & dont know from Adam pulls that shit, its on like donkey Kong lol.