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Ahoy, You Lovely Cheaters, Griefers, Walts and Paintballers-in-denial
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That effectively what I've done, I've got copper tape running round the edges of the film to ensure good electrical transfer across the film, film is then pressed tight to the lens and taped around the edges to keep it in place and in contact with the lens.
I just bought a sheet of ITO coated PET film and cut it to shape to fit tight on the back of my revision goggle lens.
I just bought a sheet of ITO coated PET film and cut it to shape to fit tight on the back of my revision goggle lens.
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Really, my Google-fu is failing me, I can only find big rolls. I'm all over this if I can find some film.
Did you consider running the ITO/PET as a separated pane rather than attached to the polycarb? That's how I do my PETG dual panes, with a strip of double sided foam tape between the polycarb and the inner. Mind you, if it's heated it doesn't really matter, and you might get fewer visual artifacts.
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Adolf Hamster
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thats what puts me off the pyramex's, it's like you're trading inconsistent clear/bad fog for consistent "just enough to annoy" fog.
*dreams of a set of 6b50's with heated lenses*
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=ito+pet+film&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=ito+film
That's what I searched for on Ebay.
That's what I searched for on Ebay.
the PET film is quite thin so I wouldn't work as a stand alone pane, in theory you could get a second len, get it ITO coated on the outer face and then put that behind the lens that'll take the bb hits.
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Awwww yeah. Thanks, I looked right through that. How does the resistance work on those? Sellers seem to be quoting "per sheet". I'm guessing it's just a case of going with what you can get and dialling the voltage in until you get the heat you want from it?
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I've got the maths somewhere for all this. Let me just dig it out later today and I'll post it all up for you. Perhaps I should make dedicated thread for all this?
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Adolf Hamster
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dedicated thread might be worth doing, especially if you're planning on doing commission builds in the future
Could probably just do the exact same thing and cut the film to be lens shaped. The challenge on glasses would be where to stick all the electronics.
For goggles I can just make a small compartment that sits on the band at the back like the battery packs for the fan assisted goggles.
Adolf Hamster
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maybe have the control box seperate and run it on a shoulder mount? or fit to a helmet.
Yeah, I'll do that. I'll make a dedicated thread for all of this once I get all my plans and blueprints out.
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Gotta say, as commendable as it is to share all this info & research, you've definitely got a product you could market there, not unlike Herosharks excellent kit, if it hasn't been done before as a working product, I'd consider registering the rights before anyone else does ?
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True, but like HeroShark, you can only make (some) money in the UK by doing small runs of custom gear.
Urgh. Sadly, the intellectual property system is heavily weighted towards large businesses who can afford to pay lawyers to register and pursue IP.
The easiest/cheapest thing to register in the UK is a design. This protests the specific and distinctive appearance of a product. It's not hugely useful as it's aimed more at artsy-fartsy products than technical ones, and enforcement comes down to your ability to out-spend a competitor.
Beyond that you need to register a patent. The problem with that is that heated goggles are not a new invention. There are already ski goggles that implement this, and snowmobile visors have been doing it for years. It'd be hard to argue that airsoft goggles go beyond a modification to an existing invention.
You can sink a small fortune in to trying to register and protect intellectual property, and spergs like Adam Aarons have done exactly that. This chap has sunk years and his inheritance into paying solicitors to aggressively pursue (first hand knowledge!) anyone who even questions the practicality or existence of his "invention". And yet, despite year and years of such shenanigans, the poor deluded incel has never managed to produce or sell one single unit of what he's "invented".
Don't be like Adam Aarons. If you have something that you think you can sell, then sell it. If you focus your energy and money on trying to "protect" it, then you'll quickly find yourself funding lawyers rather than productive human beings.
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Adolf Hamster
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Tbh given how open this industry is to copying things i have to say i'm on the side of not bothering to patent when its just gonna get ripped off left right and centre. You dont want to end up like rollin white bankrupting yourself filing patent lawsuits.
If you focus on doing it as a custom service rather than a product- folk send you their preferred style of goggles and you fit them up it'd be a bit less susceptable.
Put it like this, if it was a service i'd be getting a set of 6b50's and sending them off with my bolle's to get fitted up. Hell the only reason i havent tried myself is me and integrated circuits dont get on.
If you focus on doing it as a custom service rather than a product- folk send you their preferred style of goggles and you fit them up it'd be a bit less susceptable.
Put it like this, if it was a service i'd be getting a set of 6b50's and sending them off with my bolle's to get fitted up. Hell the only reason i havent tried myself is me and integrated circuits dont get on.
