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    Kwa Vm4 T6 Does it Need Upgrading

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    34 minutes ago, Lozart said:

    Fitting a Titan won't increase your rate of fire but it should improve your trigger response, 30 RPS is getting up towards sewing machine territory so it's not really my wheelhouse but I'd say you're looking at lower than 16:1 for sure (depending on your spring etc) probably more like 13:1. Bear in mind that you could easily get a better rof just by using an 11.1v battery but you would still need to take things like pre-engagement into account.

     

    The TK45 uses a V2.5 gearbox so that's going to be different from the get-go, again though it's less popular than things like the ARP9 and the Classic Army X45. KWA in general in the UK are fairly uncommon (mostly down to cost to be fair).

     

     

     

    Not a lot has changed in the last 5 years in terms of basic gearbox design though. As far as the Virgo and the Avalon gearbox goes though, it's already got the electronic gubbins in so in theory you'd save the cost of the Titan (whether or not the VFC ECS system is actually any better is not something I can comment on having only used either Gate or BTC units). The rest of the mechanics is still just basic gears and pistons though so that's going to be no different than your old one.

    Worth a look at this ref the Avalon gearbox: 

     

    That video is hilarious 😂 

    Seems like theres issues with everything..

    And I'm going to have to be fair to you and apologise but you might be right in me just getting a stock gun (other than hop rubber) and see how I feel as to how I go about improving it. Think I've just got carried away with upgrading, which started as just hop rubber until I watched the video of the Joker/Black Panther builds as just assumed that is what I want...

    Kwa Vm4 T6 Does it Need Upgrading

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    I play mainly at Anzio, a mix of large open space and cqb buildings, 

    My vfc's rate of fire was quite slow so from watching videos on the kwa I want to up it from 20-22 as stated a stock gun should have a range of to around 30.

    Would a gate titan do this alone or would it need the gears to be changed from probably 18:1 stock to 16:1 or lower? Probably use .28's

     

    I was hoping that this gun would be popular and that people would have already done what I'm trying to do, hence why I've come to a forum. I would imagine this gun would be similar to the kwa tk45 internally so hoping someone would have said 'I've do this to my kwa and got this response from the upgrade'

    Or TBF just change the xyz and you should be good to go until something breaks......

     

    Seems like I've entered the wrong thread..

    And if I had not given the right info at the start then it would have been better to ask what I'm after rather than just give abuse

     

    Kwa Vm4 T6 Does it Need Upgrading

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    7 minutes ago, rocketdogbert said:


    Call me a cynic, but  I would say to achieve safe zone cool points (that’s mostly why I mod my guns 😂😂)

    No it's not for safe zone cool points..🙄😴

    Forget I even bothered...

    I am pretty sure it was quite clear in my initial question but some people just cant seem to get a grasp of that obviously!!!

     

    Thanks to those who actually offered useful advise or alternatives, dont know why others even bothered commenting......

     

     

     

    Kwa Vm4 T6 Does it Need Upgrading

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    3 minutes ago, rocketdogbert said:


    The trouble is hubris. Very few people will admit to messing around with a gun and making it worse, most YouTubers have a vested interested in promoting guns/parts, so you need to be very careful what advice you take from them

    I've seen the Joker/Black panther builds which look great but neither gun mentioned anything about the hop up unit or barrel. 

    The main reason for asking all this is because I will be paying a tech to do it, whilst it's open and he's setting it up I am just thinking it would be best to get all the stuff done at once rather than getting it back and going 'actually I wished I'd done this ...' just seeking advise from others that may have this gun and already done or going through this process.

    Kwa Vm4 T6 Does it Need Upgrading

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    33 minutes ago, Lozart said:

     

    You mentioned a gun, said it was "great out of the box" barring the hop rubber and then asked if it was a good idea to literally rip out all the parts that make it a good gun and replace them with different parts despite having no experience doing it.

    You've said you want the holy grail of increased RoF, range and consistency when you haven't even tried it, apparently basing your view on having to replace all those bits in a completely different gun from a completely different manufacturer.

     

    Standard advice in this position is to leave it the fuck alone until you've actually used it and decided what is lacking then fix that. To use your own words "I don't want to change something that is actually worth keeping"

    I've seen a lot of videos on upgrades on this gun (also KWA upgrading this gun) and read a few posts of people who own the gun and started doing the upgrades and saying it has made it better. 

    I am merely looking for advise from more sources so I can get the best out of it that I can. I'm not changing the motor as I've seen the performance difference between that, a high torque and high speed and prefer the results of the standard motor.

    I havent seen much about hop ups other than it is proprietary so dont know how that would work as standard or to actually change it.

    If you dont actually have any information or have this gun or used this gun please feel free to not actually post a comment at all.

    Kwa Vm4 T6 Does it Need Upgrading

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    4 minutes ago, Davegolf said:

     

    You want range - TM Recoil

    You want smooth running - TM Recoil

    You want higher ROF reliably - TM Recoil + BTC/Titan + gearset + EagleM90 + 11.1V

    Get a new if your budget allows or used Recoil, + those 4 mods will achieve more than youve probably ever expierenced and last a very very long time.

     

    Get a solid base gun and get the internals done then leave it alone inside;

     

    I know this looks quite different, but better to start with something like this https://airsoft-forums.uk/classifieds/item/10003-tokyo-marui-m4-cqbr-recoil/ and change the externals as you please over time.

     

    Best

     

    Dave

    Not really into recoil but will spend a bit of time looking at the info provided, and would definitely have to change that front end, hate the M4 front... Thanks

    Kwa Vm4 T6 Does it Need Upgrading

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    1 minute ago, BigStew said:

    it's probably not put over the best way. KWAs are not particularly common on airsoft sites so not sure   you are going to get many answers. the attitude from the above user as so many people come on the site and say i haven't bought a gun yet what should i do to it and most of the the time the answer is nothing. just had a quick look the gun is priced at £350 in the uk and states it's minimum power is 340 FPS and states that's adjustable upwards. So basically its be toted has a high end gun you should not need to do anything to it out the box. you seriously want to dump £350 on a gun then replace everything pretty much doubling the cost? KWA have been around for decades at the price it should be good. if you like it buy it get  some good quality BBs at least 0.28g clean the barrel and go to your site firing range and set the hop then go play see what its like.  

    Thanks for a good bit of feedback. I used to have a VFC hk416 cqb which I just sold, I found that the range on that wasnt particularly brilliant and was kind of noisy in operation as well.

    I'm new to upgrades as I left my old gun completely stock. I know I want a higher rof (change gears) and was thinking of the gate titan as the KWA is drop in ready so whilst it's open was thinking I might as well drop everything in at the same time but having never upgraded a gun wouldn't know where to start and where to stop. 

    Kwa Vm4 T6 Does it Need Upgrading

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    About to buy a kwa vm4 t6. 

    I've read that it is a great gun out of the box other than the hop rubber, although apparently it can be alright after putting a mag of bb's through it.

     

    Thinking of changing the following,

    Dropping in a gate titan advance, new gears, new trigger, new hop rubber, new piston and piston head.

     

    1) is it worth it on this gun

    2) is it worth changing the hop up, barrel and or spring whilst I've gone this far

     

    Whilst I dont mind spending the money I dont want to change something that is actually worth keeping.

     

    Overall looking for increased rof, fps to be stable at 330/350 for site limits and a good range.

     

    Thanks for any advice 

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