Just got a new uniform... LOVE IT!!!

[Sacarathe]

Yet you find people dress up as Jihadi extremists on game days and no one bats an eyelid, yet ironically some of the people that don't bat an eyelid to this are the same people that are currently serving / have served in the military and are fighting / have fought against extremists at some point. Just think about that.

It was always my impression that " " Jihadi extremists " " were just plain clothed civis in local middle-eastern attire with aks and assault vests? Is there an official uniform or something to which you and teddybhoy refer?

 

[Jedi_Master]

^^ Jihadi like their black PJs so that they are ready for those 72 virgins Mind you Jimmy Savile liked tracksuit trousers too for his proclivities. Go figure.

 

[AirsoftTed]

It was always my impression that " " Jihadi extremists " " were just plain clothed civis in local middle-eastern attire with aks and assault vests? Is there an official uniform or something to which you and teddybhoy refer?

This was my point lol

 

[Sacarathe]

Well done for posting this on remembrance weekend......

Here, have a /thread.

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

This is all a bit silly isnt it.

The its a dress uniform and has no place on a battlefield.

Well its all fancy dress and toy guns and fake grenades none of belongs on a battlefield. But then again its not a real battlefield either.

The I lost my grandfather in the war comments.

We all lost family in the second world and the first and I can find records of dead family all the way back to fighting the Scots. Doesn't mean I get all offended and need to have a cry in the corner if someone wears a kilt.

A lot of people on here like Russian stuff and thats great. Even though the russian army is responsible for lots of atrocities throughout history. Anybody booked a holiday to the Ukraine this year?

As for bringing airsoft into disrepute, think about how sad and pathetic some of the responses on this thread are.

Get a grip.

Get a life.

Get over it.

Im off to play silly gun games and hopefully meet some decent more normal people. When I do post next it will be to talk about toy guns with Proffrink.

 

[jcheeseright]

Either you were unaware of what this weekend represents to a lot of people, or you just don't care... either way, posting your shiny new SS Totenkopf brigade kit on remembrance weekend is such poor taste I can't even begin to explain how much of an utter cunt it makes you.

As for ImTriggerHappy's comment, there's a difference between someone wearing a kilt which is traditional scottish dress, and someone dressing up as a war criminal. Do a bit of reading on what the SS did during the 1940's and you'll see why wearing that particular uniform is so unpleasant, I'd honestly rather see someone wearing a pointy white KKK outfit than that one.

 

[Aengus]

Few words for this man: Tw*t, c*nt, could've Atleast waited 1 day d*ck. That's all

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

Either you were unaware of what this weekend represents to a lot of people, or you just don't care... either way, posting your shiny new SS Totenkopf brigade kit on remembrance weekend is such poor taste I can't even begin to explain how much of an utter c*nt it makes you.

As for ImTriggerHappy's comment, there's a difference between someone wearing a kilt which is traditional scottish dress, and someone dressing up as a war criminal. Do a bit of reading on what the SS did during the 1940's and you'll see why wearing that particular uniform is so unpleasant, I'd honestly rather see someone wearing a pointy white KKK outfit than that one.

Got to agree with the timing comment. Its probably not the best weekend to post it.
As for the atrocities committed by the SS yes they did some terrible things and deserved to be reviled. But so did everyone else.

How many innocents died when America dropped the bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

Look up the Prussian mass rape.

How many war crimes were committed by the Allies?

Not sticking up for the SS or Germany in general but remember a lot of the SS were basically brainwashed from a young age.

The uniform is poor taste but then all of them are depending on your point of view.

The kilt remark was meant to be a joke.

It made me laugh that someone bought up a relative dying in WW2. We most likely all did but it was most likely by the hands of someone else other than the SS.

 

[Russe11]

I have no problem with people depicting combat units of any nation from WW2. The SS dress uniform however is not a combat uniform and is designed as a political statement. There are many great looking WW2 German uniforms that you could have chosen that would show respect for the millions of Germans who died and were also victims of Naziism and the war that was forced upon them by their government. DAK, gebirgsjager, fallschirmjager and even the SS combat uniform would be fine in my book.

 

[Esoterick]

It's bad timing to post this and don't expect people to be ok with it. However it's up to you and I don't have to deal with the consequences.

Lots of the other examples compared to the SS are poor at best.

 

[Hibernator]

I find it hard to believe this isn't some kind of troll post that everyone is falling for, especially considering the timing. If it isn't however, interesting article here:

Link to article redacted

Not sure I need to point out the irony of wanting to fight ISIS because of their brutality towards Christians, then causing controversy by wearing the uniform of a group who commited mass genocide against the Jews. It's the Swastika that is offensive, and is still used by extremist groups in the US and Europe today as a symbol of hate. I suggest you wear a silly Hitler moustache so that at least people may think you are wearing it in jest, even though it's bad taste. Proudly taking selfies and posting them in public is not the best idea!

 

[Sacarathe]

I find it hard to believe this isn't some kind of troll post that everyone is falling for, especially considering the timing. If it isn't however, interesting article here:

as above, article link

Hah, I didn't have the stones to post that last night.

 

[Hibernator]

Ha ha. I was debating whether to or not. But it's a news article on a public website, nothing hidden away from the public eye and includes quotes from the person in question. Therefore he must be fine with it being out there!

 

[Sacarathe]

Meh, I guess so.

 

[Greg147]

All morality issues aside, I don't see why anyone would want to put themselves through the hassle of wearing that. Firstly, as mentioned, it's not a combat uniform; it's going to be difficult to run around in, have hardly anywhere to store magazines etc, isn't going to blend into your surroundings at all, and will get covered in mud/torn to pieces. And I bet you'll spend most of the day trying to stop the hat from falling off.

Secondly, regardless of why you're wearing it, people are going to find it offensive. You might not care if they voice their opinion, but I imagine what's more likely to happen is you'll just be shunned. No-one's going to want to start any conversations, or be seen getting on with a bloke in a Totenkopf uniform, especially one that's clearly not a combat outfit. Socially, it will be awkward the whole day. Why would you want to put yourself through that? Wouldn't it take half the fun out of airsoft? Personally, if I was that obsessed with Nazi uniforms, I'd keep it for private events and WW2 games (although I'd take the swastika off). It's completely up to you, but I can't imagine why you'd intentionally become the black sheep of an airsoft game just to wear that uniform.

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

I find it hard to believe this isn't some kind of troll post that everyone is falling for.

I would probably bet money that it is, but it has opened up an interesting discussion.

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

All morality issues aside, I don't see why anyone would want to put themselves through the hassle of wearing that. Firstly, as mentioned, it's not a combat uniform; it's going to be difficult to run around in, have hardly anywhere to store magazines etc, isn't going to blend into your surroundings at all, and will get covered in mud/torn to pieces. And I bet you'll spend most of the day trying to stop the hat from falling off.

Secondly, regardless of why you're wearing it, people are going to find it offensive. You might not care if they voice their opinion, but I imagine what's more likely to happen is you'll just be shunned. No-one's going to want to start any conversations, or be seen getting on with a bloke in a Totenkopf uniform, especially one that's clearly not a combat outfit. Socially, it will be awkward the whole day. Why would you want to put yourself through that? Wouldn't it take half the fun out of airsoft? Personally, if I was that obsessed with Nazi uniforms, I'd keep it for private events and WW2 games (although I'd take the swastika off). It's completely up to you, but I can't imagine why you'd intentionally become the black sheep of an airsoft game just to wear that uniform.

Whats the combat outfit thing all about?Its airsoft not combat. By that reckoning the people who turn up in Spiderman outfits or onesies shouldnt be wearing them.

Uniform is bad taste yes but whether its a combat uniform or not is irrelevant.

 

[Greg147]

Whats the combat outfit thing all about?

Its airsoft not combat. By that reckoning the people who turn up in Spiderman outfits or onesies shouldnt be wearing them.

Uniform is bad taste yes but whether its a combat uniform or not is irrelevant.

I think you've misunderstood what I was trying to get across. I didn't say he 'shouldn't' be wearing dress uniform rather than combat uniform, I asked why he would want to. I was pointing out that it's going to be uncomfortable to wear for airsoft when compared to 'combat' gear.

I am of course aware that airsoft is not real combat, but I'll try to explain in more detail. The uniform isn't designed to run around in, it's a dress piece. Again, I'm not saying he can't wear it because of that, I'm just suggesting that clothing designed for 'combat' (real or otherwise) is going to be more suitable.

- It doesn't look like he's got anywhere to store spare magazines, batteries, water, anything else that someone might want to take onto a airsoft field, and if he's wearing it purely because he likes the style, he might not want to be adding bags or pouches that wouldn't fit the uniform (emphasis on 'might', obviously I don't know his preference)

- Being a dress piece, it's not designed to blend in, so he'll be spotted easier.

- It's obviously an item of pride to the owner, but running around an airsoft field, through bushes and brambles, kneeling or lying down, potentially slipping over, all risk damaging the clothes and ruining them. Why risk damaging a replica piece? Something designed for combat rather than ceremony is going to be harder-wearing, and isn't going to look so ruined if exposed to harsh treatment.

Of course, people are allowed to turn up in Spiderman outfits if they want. Airsoft is supposed to be fun. But kit designed for real combat has advantages that transfer over to airsoft in the same way that people use Magpul assists on their magazines or red-dot sights on their guns. Hope that makes more sense.

EDIT: I've just re-read my original post, and realized you might have been referring to the second paragraph. That part just referred to the fact that people may be more willing to accept a SS combat uniform than a dress uniform on the grounds that it makes less of a statement about the ideology behind the faction.

 

[Rock-climby-Dave]

- It doesn't look like he's got anywhere to store spare magazines, batteries, water, anything else that someone might want to take onto a airsoft field, and if he's wearing it purely because he likes the style, he might not want to be adding bags or pouches that wouldn't fit the uniform (emphasis on 'might', obviously I don't know his preference)

To be fair though, most hires don't either. I don't carry much beyond a spare mag or two in a pocket these days.

Being a dress piece, it's not designed to blend in, so he'll be spotted easier.

It's basically all black, I wear a black top and camo trousers, but I do regularly see people turning up to woodland in Black kit

- It's obviously an item of pride to the owner, but running around an airsoft field, through bushes and brambles, kneeling or lying down, potentially slipping over, all risk damaging the clothes and ruining them. Why risk damaging a replica piece? Something designed for combat rather than ceremony is going to be harder-wearing, and isn't going to look so ruined if exposed to harsh treatment.

>Not using an item designed to get used in fear of it getting used.
Do you not take pride in your gear? Your rifle? Do you take so much pride in your gear that you actually own several plate carriers and ARs, but run around in pyjamas knife killing everyone incase the AR/Plate carrier become mucky?

Can't say I'd wear it skirmishing -based on the perceived beliefs of the wearer- but god damn, I'll defend his right to wear it if he wants. As did all those who died on both sides.

This, to me, comes down to a very simple rule:

He has the right to free speech (which I think we can agree this is) and you DO NOT have the right to not be offended.

 

[ImTriggerHappy]

- It doesn't look like he's got anywhere to store spare magazines, batteries, water, anything else that someone might want to take onto a airsoft field, and if he's wearing it purely because he likes the style, he might not want to be adding bags or pouches that wouldn't fit the uniform (emphasis on 'might', obviously I don't know his preference)

To be fair though, most hires don't either. I don't carry much beyond a spare mag or two in a pocket these days.

Being a dress piece, it's not designed to blend in, so he'll be spotted easier.

It's basically all black, I wear a black top and camo trousers, but I do regularly see people turning up to woodland in Black kit

- It's obviously an item of pride to the owner, but running around an airsoft field, through bushes and brambles, kneeling or lying down, potentially slipping over, all risk damaging the clothes and ruining them. Why risk damaging a replica piece? Something designed for combat rather than ceremony is going to be harder-wearing, and isn't going to look so ruined if exposed to harsh treatment.

>Not using an item designed to get used in fear of it getting used.

Do you not take pride in your gear? Your rifle? Do you take so much pride in your gear that you actually own several plate carriers and ARs, but run around in pyjamas knife killing everyone incase the AR/Plate carrier become mucky?

Can't say I'd wear it skirmishing -based on the perceived beliefs of the wearer- but god damn, I'll defend his right to wear it if he wants. As did all those who died on both sides.

This, to me, comes down to a very simple rule:

He has the right to free speech (which I think we can agree this is) and you DO NOT have the right to not be offended.

Well said. ?