ditto, pretty sure I read it is purpose built but would like confirmation as I know those pre-release reports can sometimes be wrong.
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What do you need to know ?
They have now arrived in Hong Kong but most of the details on them have been out for months
They have now arrived in Hong Kong but most of the details on them have been out for months
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Mach Sakai's video is worth a watch with the auto-translated subtitles on, (a) because of hilarious mistranslations and (b) because you get to see just how well-thought out the gun seems to be.
I still wouldn't buy one, but it looks like a very nice piece of kit.
I still wouldn't buy one, but it looks like a very nice piece of kit.
When watching the video, even at 5m, you can see the BBs dropping already as if there is no hop what so ever. I put it down that he hadn't adjusted it properly but after what @Wo1f posted it looks like it is a common issue with them. I have a Revolver with no hop up and that fires a better trajectory than this does.
Got to love the auto translate on this video though!!!
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I'm sure there is a video somewhere (somewhat lengthy) of TM's presentation on it where they show the 3D drawings of the gearbox. You can see it briefly in this video.
Where've you seen it getting slated? Finally watched this (realised the subs don't work on iPad) and it looks awesome. Yeah I can see the bb-drop you guys are talking about but he didn't seem to adjust the hop at any point so it might just be that.
Also RedWolf have posted a review, again, hugely positive but it really get much into shooting performance:
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I was going to post that here but figured someone else would. Not like it actually gives much information. Once again RWTV manage to make a 20 minute video that says absolutely nothing
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Here's a quote from Clearwater Airsoft, a chap that is probably one of the first to get theirs in the UK:-
Firstly, thanks again to the guys at Defcon Airsoft UK for 1. Getting them in so fast and 2. Letting me take over the shop on a Friday morning?
So, just over a day and a half into owning this beast and here’s what I think:
The firing and recoil as well as the shaking of the dummy cartridge belt is really just grin inducing. I’ve been using recoil guns - both Marui and KWA for years and the mk46 really is a step up. The build quality is the usual high standard we all expect and the safety features to prevent it being fired with either the feed tray open or the barrel removed are well thought out safety additions to protect players and the gun. Speaking of the barrel; it disengages with a clunk and glides out easily. The breach block, which is the part that locks into the receiver has got marked and scratched slightly around its periphery as it’s hit the inside of the rail when removing and installing the battery. but it isn’t a complaint just an observation. When it is re engaged once again you get a reassuring clunk and it is rock solid then. Clipping the feed tray cover down also has a solid click so there’s no mistaking if it’s locked or loose.
Having to rack the charging handle to start shooting is great fun and it needs doing every 300 or so rounds as the feed stops from the mag. This gives some semblance of the real thing and is the recoil equivalent of changing box mags. A quick press of the bullet shaped button on top of the mag by the release lever engages the winding mech and in a few seconds you’re good to go again.
I love how the mag feeds directly into the bottom of the gun so there’s no need for a tube going into the side that needs hiding. It also means removing the mag in safe zones is a lot easier so no need to leave it attached and stick a gun sock on your muzzle. The hop unit is a cinch to access and it’s actually a useable size for people with anything bigger than Jeremy Beadles right hand. It happily adjusted to easily hop 0.28g BB’s. I don’t have any heavier to hand and in all fairness at the sub 1J power level it would be detrimental to the experience anyway.
Power wise this definitely benefits from the use of as large a capacity battery as you can fit in the space. I recommend the Titan Power 7.4v 2600mah stick as that goes in easy as pie and powers it beautifully even with the extra load generated by the hoooge recoil weight. I would say that you need to make sure it’s well charged though for the maximum benefit. RoF is around 11rps so just slightly less than the real mk46. If you want 1200rpm fire rates a la mg42 then you’re going to be disappointed however. This is gonna be great for sustained bursts to suppress your opponents - y’know as it was meant for in real life??
I’m just trying to think of any negatives and I am really coming up empty.
One thing I might try once I have some money again (that’s gonna be a while though for some unfathomable reason!??) is to fit the collapsible stock often seen on mk46’s. There is no electrical or mechanical connections going from the receivers to the stock so I don’t think it is essential to the firing of the gun. Knock out two pins and the stock comes off. That’s a project for next year - or until some aftermarket support is seen in the market and I doubt that it’ll be a long wait for that to happen.
Monday will see some more testing and videos so stay tuned to this page for more. ??
Check him out either on Facebook or Instagram, he's a top bloke!
He's had a couple of people ask him regarding range and he responded with these comments via Facebook:-!
It’s very nice to shoot. I’m not concerned about range. It was still going nice and flat at the end of my garden that’s 27m. Fps is around 290 with 0.2g BB’s but I use 0.28’s and the hop lifted them fine. RoF is about 11rps.
I haven’t been able to do any meaningful range testing later as my garden is only 27m long. Monday is when it’ll get a work out over 50m plus so stay tuned for the video??
It doesn't really matter i suppose because you all think it's crap anyway! ?
Regardless, I'm bloody excited for mine to arrive and will answer any and all questions etc when I get my hands on it, if you're interested of course!
Firstly, thanks again to the guys at Defcon Airsoft UK for 1. Getting them in so fast and 2. Letting me take over the shop on a Friday morning?
So, just over a day and a half into owning this beast and here’s what I think:
The firing and recoil as well as the shaking of the dummy cartridge belt is really just grin inducing. I’ve been using recoil guns - both Marui and KWA for years and the mk46 really is a step up. The build quality is the usual high standard we all expect and the safety features to prevent it being fired with either the feed tray open or the barrel removed are well thought out safety additions to protect players and the gun. Speaking of the barrel; it disengages with a clunk and glides out easily. The breach block, which is the part that locks into the receiver has got marked and scratched slightly around its periphery as it’s hit the inside of the rail when removing and installing the battery. but it isn’t a complaint just an observation. When it is re engaged once again you get a reassuring clunk and it is rock solid then. Clipping the feed tray cover down also has a solid click so there’s no mistaking if it’s locked or loose.
Having to rack the charging handle to start shooting is great fun and it needs doing every 300 or so rounds as the feed stops from the mag. This gives some semblance of the real thing and is the recoil equivalent of changing box mags. A quick press of the bullet shaped button on top of the mag by the release lever engages the winding mech and in a few seconds you’re good to go again.
I love how the mag feeds directly into the bottom of the gun so there’s no need for a tube going into the side that needs hiding. It also means removing the mag in safe zones is a lot easier so no need to leave it attached and stick a gun sock on your muzzle. The hop unit is a cinch to access and it’s actually a useable size for people with anything bigger than Jeremy Beadles right hand. It happily adjusted to easily hop 0.28g BB’s. I don’t have any heavier to hand and in all fairness at the sub 1J power level it would be detrimental to the experience anyway.
Power wise this definitely benefits from the use of as large a capacity battery as you can fit in the space. I recommend the Titan Power 7.4v 2600mah stick as that goes in easy as pie and powers it beautifully even with the extra load generated by the hoooge recoil weight. I would say that you need to make sure it’s well charged though for the maximum benefit. RoF is around 11rps so just slightly less than the real mk46. If you want 1200rpm fire rates a la mg42 then you’re going to be disappointed however. This is gonna be great for sustained bursts to suppress your opponents - y’know as it was meant for in real life??
I’m just trying to think of any negatives and I am really coming up empty.
One thing I might try once I have some money again (that’s gonna be a while though for some unfathomable reason!??) is to fit the collapsible stock often seen on mk46’s. There is no electrical or mechanical connections going from the receivers to the stock so I don’t think it is essential to the firing of the gun. Knock out two pins and the stock comes off. That’s a project for next year - or until some aftermarket support is seen in the market and I doubt that it’ll be a long wait for that to happen.
Monday will see some more testing and videos so stay tuned to this page for more. ??
Check him out either on Facebook or Instagram, he's a top bloke!
He's had a couple of people ask him regarding range and he responded with these comments via Facebook:-!
It’s very nice to shoot. I’m not concerned about range. It was still going nice and flat at the end of my garden that’s 27m. Fps is around 290 with 0.2g BB’s but I use 0.28’s and the hop lifted them fine. RoF is about 11rps.
I haven’t been able to do any meaningful range testing later as my garden is only 27m long. Monday is when it’ll get a work out over 50m plus so stay tuned for the video??
It doesn't really matter i suppose because you all think it's crap anyway! ?
Regardless, I'm bloody excited for mine to arrive and will answer any and all questions etc when I get my hands on it, if you're interested of course!
Awesome, thanks for this! FYI I’m not in the it’s crap bucket, I’m firmly in the I have absolutely no idea bucket - hence asking for validation of the comments about it having shitty range. From what I’m seeing it seems great and I’m sold on the user experience, I just want to know I can fire 50m without having to arc my shots (hate people doing that in airsoft)Here's a quote from Clearwater Airsoft, a chap that is probably one of the first to get theirs in the UK:-
Firstly, thanks again to the guys at Defcon Airsoft UK for 1. Getting them in so fast and 2. Letting me take over the shop on a Friday morning?
So, just over a day and a half into owning this beast and here’s what I think:
The firing and recoil as well as the shaking of the dummy cartridge belt is really just grin inducing. I’ve been using recoil guns - both Marui and KWA for years and the mk46 really is a step up. The build quality is the usual high standard we all expect and the safety features to prevent it being fired with either the feed tray open or the barrel removed are well thought out safety additions to protect players and the gun. Speaking of the barrel; it disengages with a clunk and glides out easily. The breach block, which is the part that locks into the receiver has got marked and scratched slightly around its periphery as it’s hit the inside of the rail when removing and installing the battery. but it isn’t a complaint just an observation. When it is re engaged once again you get a reassuring clunk and it is rock solid then. Clipping the feed tray cover down also has a solid click so there’s no mistaking if it’s locked or loose.
Having to rack the charging handle to start shooting is great fun and it needs doing every 300 or so rounds as the feed stops from the mag. This gives some semblance of the real thing and is the recoil equivalent of changing box mags. A quick press of the bullet shaped button on top of the mag by the release lever engages the winding mech and in a few seconds you’re good to go again.
I love how the mag feeds directly into the bottom of the gun so there’s no need for a tube going into the side that needs hiding. It also means removing the mag in safe zones is a lot easier so no need to leave it attached and stick a gun sock on your muzzle. The hop unit is a cinch to access and it’s actually a useable size for people with anything bigger than Jeremy Beadles right hand. It happily adjusted to easily hop 0.28g BB’s. I don’t have any heavier to hand and in all fairness at the sub 1J power level it would be detrimental to the experience anyway.
Power wise this definitely benefits from the use of as large a capacity battery as you can fit in the space. I recommend the Titan Power 7.4v 2600mah stick as that goes in easy as pie and powers it beautifully even with the extra load generated by the hoooge recoil weight. I would say that you need to make sure it’s well charged though for the maximum benefit. RoF is around 11rps so just slightly less than the real mk46. If you want 1200rpm fire rates a la mg42 then you’re going to be disappointed however. This is gonna be great for sustained bursts to suppress your opponents - y’know as it was meant for in real life??
I’m just trying to think of any negatives and I am really coming up empty.
One thing I might try once I have some money again (that’s gonna be a while though for some unfathomable reason!??) is to fit the collapsible stock often seen on mk46’s. There is no electrical or mechanical connections going from the receivers to the stock so I don’t think it is essential to the firing of the gun. Knock out two pins and the stock comes off. That’s a project for next year - or until some aftermarket support is seen in the market and I doubt that it’ll be a long wait for that to happen.
Monday will see some more testing and videos so stay tuned to this page for more. ??
Check him out either on Facebook or Instagram, he's a top bloke!
He's had a couple of people ask him regarding range and he responded with these comments via Facebook:-!
It’s very nice to shoot. I’m not concerned about range. It was still going nice and flat at the end of my garden that’s 27m. Fps is around 290 with 0.2g BB’s but I use 0.28’s and the hop lifted them fine. RoF is about 11rps.
I haven’t been able to do any meaningful range testing later as my garden is only 27m long. Monday is when it’ll get a work out over 50m plus so stay tuned for the video??
It doesn't really matter i suppose because you all think it's crap anyway! ?
Regardless, I'm bloody excited for mine to arrive and will answer any and all questions etc when I get my hands on it, if you're interested of course!
RMDavis
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- Oct 6, 2018
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I'm only mucking around bud, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and opinions are all that we have at the moment.
Or dodgy subtitled Japanese YouTube videos showing indiscriminate use of 0.2g bb's ?
That being said I'm not going to be swayed with either of those choices, and will wait and see what it's like when it's in front of me.
My only real concern like many others is the range, and I'm sure the split hop / removable barrel might be a problem. I just can't believe (until proven) that TM would release such a special RIF and let it have serious flaws like that.
We shall see I guess!
On a side note the fact you have to rack the charging handle A. To start firing and B. After 300 or so rounds is just amazing in my eyes... ?
Just found another cracking Japanese YouTube video...
Haven't a clue what's going on, but looks like he's getting 0.2g's out to 40M so theres hope for a decent weight to surpass that.
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Seen a few FB posts on it remarking on the range and low rate of fire. My personal worry is the look of the gearbox. At 11rps at 290fps it might not be a problem, but I can’t see that surviving when people put 350 FPS springs in it and having continuous fire. (Assuming it’s the usual zinc alloy gearbox monkey metal)
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