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Are you reading the same posts we're all reading?  Nobody is attacking you as a person, only the completely obvious avoidance of answering the question.  Pasting something from a website does nothing to explain the arbitrary limits your site enforces, and shows more that you don't really understand what's going on.
All I read is that you guys all want to hurt people on the field that really worries me. You won’t except that hpa has an issue with joule creep and you won’t accept or understand that we only chrono on a .20 bb. You won’t or can’t accept that where hpa is involved that presents an issue. You can’t or won’t accept to mitigate any possibility of your rifle endangering unnecessarily any other person is the correct thing to do. If you can’t or won’t accept that I have the welfare of you or anyone else at the forefront of my mind that worries me. It worries me allot so if I sound arrogant then shame on you. 

Rest my case 

 
I put facts up but you still won’t accept or understand


I did this too and you would neither accept it or understand. I gave a practical and real-world example of chrono testing that was done to deal with joule creep yet you said it was "beyond logic".

 
The more you guys respond the worse you look.

I did this too and you would neither accept it or understand. I gave a practical and real-world example of chrono testing that was done to deal with joule creep yet you said it was "beyond logic".
Ok ok whataboutery is not a strong basis for an argument. Is that better

 
All I read is that you guys all want to hurt people on the field that really worries me. You won’t except that hpa has an issue with joule creep and you won’t accept or understand that we only chrono on a .20 bb. You won’t or can’t accept that where hpa is involved that presents an issue. You can’t or won’t accept to mitigate any possibility of your rifle endangering unnecessarily any other person is the correct thing to do. If you can’t or won’t accept that I have the welfare of you or anyone else at the forefront of my mind that worries me. It worries me allot so if I sound arrogant then shame on you. 


Classic appeal to emotion. When people disagree with your "rationale", you portray those with dissenting views as wishing to inflict harm on others, thus making you a victim.

The more you guys respond the worse you look.


To whom? Your echo chamber? You are trying to encourage people to play at your site yet your responses serve to do the opposite. I sincerely do wish your site well though you really could learn about PR and how not to do a Ratner, or hire someone more adept at marketing and promotions.

 
Are you reading the same posts we're all reading?  Nobody is attacking you as a person, only the completely obvious avoidance of answering the question.  Pasting something from a website does nothing to explain the arbitrary limits your site enforces, and shows more that you don't really understand what's going on.
So you deny physics? You deny actual facts? The explanation of why we do what we do is put right in front of you and you deny it? Are you a flat earther? 

 
I put facts up but you still won’t accept or understand, I’m not surprised you think I sound arrogant. It’s your last line of defence. Cant attack the rule so attack the man.
You really are overly sensitive aren't you?  I fully understand joule creep; what I do not understand is your bizarre approach of limiting the power output of HPA weapons below that of all others, including GBB.

So you deny physics? You deny actual facts? The explanation of why we do what we do is put right in front of you and you deny it? Are you a flat earther? 
Oh, get over yourself.

 
You really are overly sensitive aren't you?  I fully understand joule creep; what I do not understand is your bizarre approach of limiting the power output of HPA weapons below that of all others, including GBB.
You see that’s the point, you don’t.

 
The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong in you.

You really have done an excellent job of ensuring that nobody here will ever play at your site and, if it comes up in conversation, will warn people off.

Good luck with your business empire.
You see you can only attack all I’ve said (if you bothered to actually read it) is all I’m interested in is ensuring your safety and giving you the best time. If that ensures no one comes to

my site, well then I’m bang to rights but at least I’ll sleep well at night knowing that everyone has gone home with their eyesight intact. 

The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong in you.

You really have done an excellent job of ensuring that nobody here will ever play at your site and, if it comes up in conversation, will warn people off.

Good luck with your business empire.
You see you can only attack all I’ve said (if you bothered to actually read it) is all I’m interested in is ensuring your safety and giving you the best time. If that ensures no one comes to

my site, well then I’m bang to rights but at least I’ll sleep well at night knowing that everyone has gone home with their eyesight intact. 

Anyone else want to bad mouth a site they have never been too or a bloke who’s only out to ensure your safety and enjoyment. Anyone please step up.

 
So you deny physics? You deny actual facts? The explanation of why we do what we do is put right in front of you and you deny it? Are you a flat earther? 


You haven't explained anything you'vepasted a nothing burger.   You've dodged ducked dived and dipped.  Why have you come to the number you have come to?

Why have you not (unless I've missed something) not restricted GBBRs?

 
we only chrono on a .20 bb.
I mean, this explains it I guess. Your unwillingness to test 4 potential bbs weights means anyone with HPA now has to endure a penalty. What's stopping you testing on 0.28s? Have a few spare just for HPA users if it's a cost issue. You can't joule creep when you're already using the max weight limit on ammo. 

 
You haven't explained anything you'vepasted a nothing burger.   You've dodged ducked dived and dipped.  Why have you come to the number you have come to?

Why have you not (unless I've missed something) not restricted GBBRs?
You’re just posting for the sake of it bud. You’ve been totally outclassed by everyone on this thread btw we are talking about HPA’s but if you’d bothered to read my posts GBBRs are also covered. Thanks for your understanding 

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You’re just posting for the sake of it bud. You’ve been totally outclassed by everyone on this thread btw we are talking about HPA’s but if you’d bothered to read my posts GBBRs are also covered. Thanks for your understanding 
Well seeing as though I don’t know peoples builds it’s best educated endeavour. When there’s a National calibration Center we’re you take your riffsto get tested then give me a certificate to tell me how much over volumes you are then I can give you an exact number. Until then here we are!

 
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Well seeing as though I don’t know peoples builds it’s best educated guess. When there’s a National calibration Center we’re you take your riffsto get tested then give me a certificate to tell me how much over volumes you are then I can give you an exact number. Until then here we are!
I assume you meant to quote me. And tbh I'm not sure what you're even going on about with this. If you're "only testing on 0.2s" I assume you provide ammo at chrono? Meaning if you provide 0.28s, there's nowhere for the gun that's being test to joule creep to. If they're using weight over 0.28s that's a different rule broken, and not something that would be exclusive to HPA. 

 
I assume you meant to quote me. And tbh I'm not sure what you're even going on about with this. If you're "only testing on 0.2s" I assume you provide ammo at chrono? Meaning if you provide 0.28s, there's nowhere for the gun that's being test to joule creep to. If they're using weight over 0.28s that's a different rule broken, and not something that would be exclusive to HPA. 
We test on .20 so if you put a point .28 and your sufficiently over volumed then you could be a danger to others. Is that what you meant to say? 

 
.20 is best endeavour by us 350 AEG 300 everything else. Easy to work with easy to understand for all skill levels Knowone moans (unless on here) everyone safe. Job done ? 

 
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Sneakyduck said:
Anyone else with any pearls of wisdom?
Yeah maybe answer the question in the first place rather than avoiding answering the multiple people who asked

why hpa and not gbb for several pages and then suddenly state that everything other the aeg is 300fps,

since earlier in the thread you distinctly stated aeg and gbb is 350fps and only hpa is 300fps.

Also in summer alot of pistols are going to be over 300fps if used on green gas, do you test pistols and make them

use abbey ultra and 144a in summer?

Lastly by your responces you seem to think there are alot of people on this thread on your side, maybe you should take a

quick look back through the thread and realise that is just not the case and maybe your shitty attitude is the reason why.

 
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