Less is more, thus shaved is more than bushed.. Warhead brushless question

[ak2m4]

@Skara some fit both just don't like to say so, I know the plastic zci one does, or does with a small amount of filing around the holes

 

[Speedbird_666]

I WANT MOAR!

So basically a Wanker-gun then? ?

 

[Badgerlicious]

tbf, 23rps on 7.4 sounds just dandy?

Fine is nice but if it's lower than what it should be then something's up with the build. 

Saying that, it is close to what I had on 13:1 gears anyway. Could just be a bit of extra friction in the system. 

 

[Skara]

Joined the AssBook group, posted my question, now people instead of helping are questioning that my guns can do 0.98J on a short stroked M90 setup.

Many useful, much entitlement.

I now remember why I don't bother with FB groups anymore.

 

[Davegolf]

So have you ordered a U-22000 or are you still persuing ball ache?

 

[Skara]

So have you ordered a U-22000 or are you still persuing ball ache?

Sorry, not spending another €70 on an inferior motor.

Ball ache ftw!

 

[Davegolf]

Inferior! ? Brushed motors been around a lot longer than brushless ?

 

[Skara]

Inferior! ? Brushed motors been around a lot longer than brushless ?

I want to *at least* try to make them work.

If I can't, I'll then focus on the ak and revert to the SHS for the M4

 

[Davegolf]

I love brushless in my RC car, im sure theyll be common place in airsoft before long, but i dont see they are really neccersary - seeing as we only ever want our motors to go from standstill to flat out, the joy of brushless in RC is the modulation you have incredible power and torque.

 

[Badgerlicious]

you have incredible power and torque

This is the part we want ?

That and efficiency for our tiny batteries. 

now people instead of helping are questioning that my guns can do 0.98J on a short stroked M90 setup.

Well now I'm questioning that. I know that not all springs are rated equal but that's quite the achievement. 

 

[Skara]

Well now I'm questioning that. I know that not all springs are rated equal but that's quite the achievement. 

SHS M90 is what's in there.

Probably not a true M90, but this is the chrono reading from 5 minutes ago, on a 7.4vView attachment 88283

Which btw is too hot and needs a second tooth knocked off the sector gear.

 

[Skara]

Great.

Now one of the tabs on the AK motor just snapped.

Out of nowhere.

 

[Skara]

Great.

Now one of the tabs on the AK motor just snapped.

Out of nowhere.

Not all hope is lost.

Mailed Warhead and they told me they can repair/replace the ESC.

I was thinking, since the short motor is going to permanently live in my AK, and since the only other modification I might make to it is HPA and I don't see myself going HPA anytime soon (too many logistical bollocks to sort), I am considering getting the motor tabs swapped out for wires, so I can have the actual connectors sitting halfway through the motor cage (will have to check if the pistol grip can handle the extra bulk), thus greatly reduce the chances of me snapping something. Shit quality graph below.

I'm also considering doing something similar on the M4 though the motor placement makes it a thunderbitch to properly design.

I can modify both the Titan and Perun Hybrid wirings to have interchangeable "motor ends" and have dedicated ends depending on what motor I want to fit.

Not that I'll be constantly swapping them every other day, that is.

What do you guys think?

 

[Tactical Pith Helmet]

Looks like a practical design to me.   Wires make more sense.  

 

[Adolf Hamster]

Thats the same way the ronin is laid out isnt it?

Worth a shot although connectors might be tricky to stuff in the grip.

You could run the wires all the way to the top, my old jg was setup like that to deans straight into the mosfet. You can get away with it on an ak with the removable motor cage

 

[Davegolf]

Yeh I hardwire my AK motors, connector up top under the dust cover 

 

[Skara]

Had a quick look this morning and I think I can get the connectors to sit along the gearbox, kept in position by that stupid sheet metal thingamajig. 

Tonight I *might* try to disassemble the end bell and see how it's made.

If I feel confident enough I'll try and wire it myself, if it's an absolute mess I'll just order a new ESC with wires installed.

As for the other motor, I think I'll leave it as it is.

 

[Skara]

I'm definitely gonna fry something, so yeah, I'll just send the motor back to have it fixed.

I need 20cm long wires. Lmao. It's also gonna be dummy expensive.

 

[Skara]

So I sent the motor back, hopefully my dank postal service won't fuck up and send the motor to Uganda or something.

Anyway, they will replace the ESC with their wired one and it's only gonna be 3/4 centimetres of wires, don't even have to rewire my mosfet.

Still dummy expensive because at this point I think I should have bought a Ronin in the first place lol.

 

[Badgerlicious]

So I sent the motor back, hopefully my dank postal service won't fuck up and send the motor to Uganda or something.

Anyway, they will replace the ESC with their wired one and it's only gonna be 3/4 centimetres of wires, don't even have to rewire my mosfet.

Still dummy expensive because at this point I think I should have bought a Ronin in the first place lol.

How much is the replacement going to cost? If it's a bit less than a ronin I'd call that a win.