THE TM MWS thread

[Groot]

And basing your knowledge of one experience with GBLS DAS is enough?  Seems too extensive to me, but hey I can see what I am dealing with here, so whatever have it your way, thats not why I came here. 

Pretty sure my feedback was basic enough for even you .. but le sigh and without crayons to help you.

I DIDN'T LIKE THE TRIGGER PULL... But the one of my PTW is really nice. So.. (hopefully i haven't lost you yet ) since the trigger is something that I tend to use a fair bit. This was a negative for me. (negative means bad)

A CARRIER GROUP AND RECOIL... Hard Meh .. "Meh" being a sound one might make to imply disinterest around something. In this case, one of their marketed features. 

Ah.. its half term... sorry forgot.... as you were

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

I think it will look like this for a little while.

you only get one foot in the picture as I’m not feeling generous today 

groot is to blame for the sling but it’s not bad for the spend

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[TadsJ2]

Pretty sure my feedback was basic enough for even you .. but le sigh and without crayons to help you.

I DIDN'T LIKE THE TRIGGER PULL... But the one of my PTW is really nice. So.. (hopefully i haven't lost you yet ) since the trigger is something that I tend to use a fair bit. This was a negative for me. (negative means bad)

A CARRIER GROUP AND RECOIL... Hard Meh .. "Meh" being a sound one might make to imply disinterest around something. In this case, one of their marketed features. 

Ah.. its half term... sorry forgot.... as you were

Its about time for you to go and get your meds, I understood you completely before. 

 

[Stratton Oakmont]

Check out where I spaffed on my slider, too much time watching garand thumb videos 

 

[Groot]

I think it will look like this for a little while.

you only get one foot in the picture as I’m not feeling generous today 

groot is to blame for the sling but it’s not bad for the spend

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Looking good. 

If I may.

If you are right handed. Try putting the back slingster QD Clip on the outside of the stock. So when you have it on its goes around the back of the stock. 

Cut down the grip for operator pro'ness
 

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[AlphaBear]

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This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine.

Can I join properly now please?

About bloody time too!

And yes, we will let you into the pack now....

You know I'm gonna change my mobile number now or better still set up a divert to some Swedish, French, German porn line.. lalalalalalala

 

[C-Diddy]

About bloody time too!

And yes, we will let you into the pack now....

You know I'm gonna change my mobile number now or better still set up a divert to some Swedish, French, German porn line.. lalalalalalala

I guess we're not putting that band together then ??

 

[Wild Weasel]

Any word on these yet please folks?

https://youtu.be/CsknN0vq_Vs

 

[alxndrhll]

Any word on these yet please folks?

https://youtu.be/CsknN0vq_Vs

The comments section on the video you linked seems as good a place as any...

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[Groot]

Any word on these yet please folks?

https://youtu.be/CsknN0vq_Vs

Waiting on these too.

AFAIK. The small initial run sold out the moment it was released.

 

[therock3xr]

Hello everyone,

After more than 3 years running my MWS internally stock, I want to make justice to how it looks.

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[GothicGhost]

One of my better upgrades as it removes the bite from the trigger guard

ERGO Gapper

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[RMDavis]

Carried out some changes to my 10.3" URGI-1 over the last few weeks. Some because I simply fancied a change but others because I have taken some things I like from my MRE build and wanted to transfer them onto this much modern rifle.

I was going to swap out the front end entirely and build up an 11.5" barrel complete with a Geissele MK4 rail. 

But I just love the compactness of the 10.3" and I know its a very common rail in the safe zone, but the URGI is just fantastic and it would take something pretty special to beat it IMO, in terms of its slim profile and ergonomics. 

So the 4 prong SF Flash Hider has gone in favour for a SF closed-tine. Think of it like a modern day bird cage flash hider. (Both made by Angry Gun)

The Magpul hand stop has been replaced with a TrueNorth Concepts Handstop-K a much smaller profile and takes advantage of the slim design of the urgi rail.

Having really missed the ambi fire selector fitted to my MRE I wanted the same on the urgi albeit a little more modern. So enter the PTS Radian Talon ambi selector, which is very well made and offers solid/precise manipulation. 

I was so impressed with the PTS fire selector I coupled it with their licensed version of the Radian Raptor-LT charging handle.

I love the vertical shooting position of the Magpul MOE K2 Pistol Grip, but prefer the rubber grip that the Hogue offers on my MRE. Luckily Magpul make the 'K2+' which is an overmolded grip with rubber, giving me the best of both worlds. 

I've now fitted a Angry Gun Milspec buffer tube as it has worked flawlessly on my MRE and takes out any slop with genuine stocks. This has been followed with a SixG HSB to improve single shot performance, I've tested it and it works very well indeed. Looking forward to testing it further in game!

Lastly as much as I'm a fan of the small form factor of the Magpul MOE SL-K, I just miss shouldering a rifle with a CTR fitted. Let's be honest that stock suits any build even if its been around for a while now!

A Magpul enhanced magazine release, and Magpul ODG magazine pulls are also on route...

Thanks for reading my update, another post from a geardo/geek! 

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[Captain Darling]

I used my MWS at a game on Sat and fucking hate it. Just didn't trust it to do what I wanted it to do. 

It was only after that I found out about the mag purging air issue thing. 

My biggest grip over the platform is the stupid, temperamental, heavy as fuck mags. Which i cannot throw around like I am used to doing with my other M4's.

I am hoping the Guns Modify Pmags will take that issue away ( eventually )

Sad to hear you’re not getting on with the MWS experience.
 

As an ex PTW fanboy myself, I’m finding the overall reliability of the MWS platform very refreshing.  I enjoy maintaining and tinkering with the gun, and it’s never let me down in a game, which I found was a major issue with my PTW’s, which I ran for about 10 years. 
 

I got sick of having to send them off to mysterious gurus for months at a time, to have various weak design flaws rectified at hundreds of pounds of cost.  Worn sector gears, faulty motors, chopped bb’s, misfeeding magazines, catastrophic failure in very wet conditions, and a general lack of feedback from firing the PTW are all things that are thankfully long behind me know. They just got in the way of me enjoying skirmishes in the end.

With a light bit of fettling, and good maintenance I’m glad to say neither my MWS or MP7 have ever failed to fire, and shoot accurately absolutely miles.  Yes the mags are real capacity and realistically heavy, but I’ve completely got used to that, and I’m getting as many kills as I usually got, just with much more satisfaction of having bettered my hi-cap hose, sewing machine wielding opponents.

 

[Groot]

Sad to hear you’re not getting on with the MWS experience.
 

As an ex PTW fanboy myself, I’m finding the overall reliability of the MWS platform very refreshing.  I enjoy maintaining and tinkering with the gun, and it’s never let me down in a game, which I found was a major issue with my PTW’s, which I ran for about 10 years. 
 

I got sick of having to send them off to mysterious gurus for months at a time, to have various weak design flaws rectified at hundreds of pounds of cost.  Worn sector gears, faulty motors, chopped bb’s, misfeeding magazines, catastrophic failure in very wet conditions, and a general lack of feedback from firing the PTW are all things that are thankfully long behind me know. They just got in the way of me enjoying skirmishes in the end.

With a light bit of fettling, and good maintenance I’m glad to say neither my MWS or MP7 have ever failed to fire, and shoot accurately absolutely miles.  Yes the mags are real capacity and realistically heavy, but I’ve completely got used to that, and I’m getting as many kills as I usually got, just with much more satisfaction of having bettered my hi-cap hose, sewing machine wielding opponents.

Difference is my 2008 PTW has had one motor rewind 2 weeks after getting it. Over the last 13 years, I’ve serviced it twice and replaced the hop twice.  Faultless. 
Anyone who knows me, will tell you I am not light on the trigger. So I would be fairly confident in saying my PTW is one of the most abused in the UK. Probably around 4K of bbs/3 x 11.1 Lipos ish a game day. 
Never missed a beat but could now probably now do with a new motor, as it’s not returning to the same start point. Not an issue because the cylinder forces it, but I can feel the additional vibration through the grip.

The only thing I would need to send the ptw away for, would be a motor rewind. Servicing and electric replacement is easier than on a normal AEG. 
 

 

[alxndrhll]

 Probably around 4K of bbs/3 x 11.1 Lipos ish a game day.

The plot thickens, I tend to go through somewhere between 800-1000 rounds on a game day (depending on the wheres and whys of the site) and I found the 35 round mags hard to adjust to... so suffice to say if you're regularly slinging 4 times that on your average day I dread to think how 'inconvenient' the platforms limitations would appear. FWIW I ended up selling my first MWS, immediately regretted it and recently picked up another (largely because I wasn't in a rush because playing wasn't on the cards, I'd have likely got another sooner had it been).

The second time around I know it's more going to be my 'fun gnu', at least to start with. I still land on AEGs/RIFs that are powered by electricity (truthfully I've never understood why it's insisted that PTWs are referenced to separately, they're AEGs in my eyes... but that's for another time/place) are the best RIFs for skirmishing with on an overall balance of pros/cons... and yes that's including a few years using HPA, just not worth the faff for me in the end. But having now given GBBRs a fair shake I imagine I'll always have at least one in my collection, and the MWS seems as good as any for my needs as and when the time comes that I want to use it.

 

[Captain Darling]

Difference is my 2008 PTW has had one motor rewind 2 weeks after getting it. Over the last 13 years, I’ve serviced it twice and replaced the hop twice.  Faultless. 
Anyone who knows me, will tell you I am not light on the trigger. So I would be fairly confident in saying my PTW is one of the most abused in the UK. Probably around 4K of bbs/3 x 11.1 Lipos ish a game day. 
Never missed a beat but could now probably now do with a new motor, as it’s not returning to the same start point. Not an issue because the cylinder forces it, but I can feel the additional vibration through the grip.

The only thing I would need to send the ptw away for, would be a motor rewind. Servicing and electric replacement is easier than on a normal AEG. 
 

Sounds like you’ve had good luck with that. I don’t know if I was doing something wrong, but I ended up not trusting my PTW.  Dropping it in a lake in Sweden or crawling around in torrential rain at Copehill may not have helped either. 
 

I’m over the moon to be rid of finicky, over complex electronic toy guns.  I think it was my 15 or so mags all slowly developing feeding faults that put the final nail in its coffin.  I understand how to take these and AEG’s a part to fix, I just resent doing it and find it no fun.

I really like the look of the new Infinity, but I suspect I’d get bored pretty quickly. 

 

[AlphaBear]

My PTW shoots like a bloody laser...It's a 2008 model with full Tac mods and I have 10 genuine EMAGS which Tac replaced the innards with original Systema ones. I cannot fault the platform. It just works each and every time. Ok the followers in the mags are annoying (and can get lost sometimes) but they are needed to operate the bolt stop.... but hey that was cutting edge back in the day. What do I like about it, it's reliable...! There you go I've said it! And best of all I can change the power from 330 to 450fps within a matter of minutes. It's only ever let me down once and that's when the motor packed in and I sent it to Tac to get rewound. 

Anyway, back to the topic of MWS. This weekend I zero'd the T1 to about 50m. I figured that was the best compromise distance.  I was using 0.28's and Abbey Ultra Predator gas. The temperature was about 23c and goodness me the power I was getting from the BCG felt like a missile. The recoil was phenomenal and the range equally impressive. I didn't have a chrono with me so I wasn't sure if it was shooting hot or not but that's besides the point. The MWS can take some serious welly.  And you know what? It's fun to use. You get that better immersion that's for sure. 

 

[AlphaBear]

Did a quick lunchtime test using Abbey Predator Ultra gas on 0.28s. Ambient temperature was 22c/23c.  Using a fresh mag partly full and shooting off 30 rounds the high was 314fps (1.28 joules and the low 299fps (1.16 joules). For 0.28’s the acceptable power is 295fps. 
 

I’ll say it again... the recoil on the MWS is something else! 
 

P.S. Disclaimer... No Nuprol bbs were harmed and crushed intentionally under my boots during this time. Why coz I don’t have any ?

 

[SSPKali]

Did a quick lunchtime test using Abbey Predator Ultra gas on 0.28s. Ambient temperature was 22c/23c.  Using a fresh mag partly full and shooting off 30 rounds the high was 314fps (1.28 joules and the low 299fps (1.16 joules). For 0.28’s the acceptable power is 295fps. 
 

I’ll say it again... the recoil on the MWS is something else! 
 

P.S. Disclaimer... No Nuprol bbs were harmed and crushed intentionally under my boots during this time. Why coz I don’t have any ?

Just tested mine on ASG Ultrair and 0.32g BBs and the stock TM bolt and nozzle kit. Shed has been warm today so all at about 23-25deg.

Running a bit hot at 295fps with stock TM parts (should be a limit of 276fps!) DP lightweight bolt and nozzle / valve combo was doing similar FPS.

Swapped out to AG v2 nozzle (still the TM bolt) and got it shooting a nice consistent 262fps ish even with a fresh warm mag and gas. Plenty of option to dial up or down if needed.

Zeroed in the new Vortex Crossfire2 red dot with Unity clone mount as the old one is now living on the MP5 AEG (Blasphemy!) Although I had forgotten how much fun a GBBR was...probably run it on the 20th at UCAP VENDETTA.