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THE TM MWS thread

AlphaBear said:
Anything Nuprol is #bleep#

The Marui XL speed loader... you simply can't beat it for the MWS mags! 
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True, it's perfect for OG mags. But not so good for the after market mags like A1A, Prowin and G&P. I wish I would have saved the 20 euros because my standard speed loader loads the Ace1Arms perfectly while the TM XL only get them to around 26 bbs. 

Can't wait for the GunsModify Pmags...

 
Hypokondrikern said:
True, it's perfect for OG mags. But not so good for the after market mags like A1A, Prowin and G&P. I wish I would have saved the 20 euros because my standard speed loader loads the Ace1Arms perfectly while the TM XL only get them to around 26 bbs. 

Can't wait for the GunsModify Pmags...
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I don't have any third party mags so can't comment I'm afraid.... With regards to the Marui XL it loads 4 bb's at a time so I usually do about 6 pumps and then struggle with the last couple. Having said that the more you use the mags the easier the spring will become to load bbs, so I've heard, but that's not worked for me yet...  I've no idea what the longevity of the Marui XL is like but it's all plastic so I expect the MWS springs will destroy it at some-point sooner rather than later... 

 
Right folks, sorry I can't for the life of me figure out how to search within a thread but my question is:- asg blaster's- safe enough to shoot for chrono on an mws?

 
Wild Weasel said:
Right folks, sorry I can't for the life of me figure out how to search within a thread but my question is:- asg blaster's- safe enough to shoot for chrono on an mws?
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ASG Devil Blasters are fine as a few folks on here have said. To be honest they ain’t my first choice for an MWS but as you’re just using them to chrono the rif they will suffice. The devil blasters are the more higher end of BB of the blaster range. 

 
Hey @GothicGhost 99% of all after market free float rails / handguards will work on the MWS. Just get the shim from PTS and you are ready to go. 
 

The problem usually lies with those handguards relying on fixture both at the barrel nut and front sight post. 
 

good luck! 

 
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Right folks I've had it with npas. What's the best option for sub 350fps on a standard setup using propane?

 
Wild Weasel said:
Right folks I've had it with npas. What's the best option for sub 350fps on a standard setup using propane?
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What weight BBs are you using? What length barrel? The stock set up and 250mm barrel will be fine on 0.20 to 0.25g...any heavier and Joule creep is a pain.

What NPAS have you been using?

The G&P valve stop (https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/gp-marui-mws-gbb-adjustable-piston-valve) is good for having a low / med / high setting and no chance of adjusting its self. Search back a few pages and I posted some test data on it

 
SSPKali said:
What weight BBs are you using? What length barrel? The stock set up and 250mm barrel will be fine on 0.20 to 0.25g...any heavier and Joule creep is a pain.

What NPAS have you been using?

The G&P valve stop (https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/gp-marui-mws-gbb-adjustable-piston-valve) is good for having a low / med / high setting and no chance of adjusting its self. Search back a few pages and I posted some test data on it
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Been using r a tech npas, standard setup with geoff's 0.32g bb's.

Update one on order from firesupport as we speak.  Sorry for the bone questions, I have just finished reading the entire thread again and to be honest there's a lot of conflicting advice, I remember your post now and the take away that I took from that was this item didn't provide enough power and you ended up sanding down the end of the valve blocker and ruining it?

Anyway I've bought one now so I will give it a go go and if I need to slightly adjust I will probably lengthen the spring by stretching it or maybe cutting my new amount down till I get a reasonable FPS.  I'm going for about 270 FPS on 0.32g bb's

Cheers for answering though I will give it a go.

 
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Wild Weasel said:
Been using r a tech npas, standard setup with geoff's 0.32g bb's.

Cheers
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Standard set up was giving me 268fps on 0.30g with ASG gas (green gas) at 14degC

Sanding the prongs down on the G&P stopper gave a better range of FPS, stock it was a bit low. High is now 295fps so will be good for cold days. Middle is now 265fps in current weather so ok for now (12-18degC)

There are people who have had good results from making the TM valve into an NPAS by drilling a 2.5mm hole then threading in a hot 3mm grub screw into it.

 
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Hello, finally my baby is finished... in about ~90%

External upgrades:

- FAB Defence GL-CORE S stock

- FAB Defence PTK-M front grip

- FAB Defence AGR-43 pistol grip

- HAO MK16 M-Lok 9.3" handguard

- Revanchist ambi fire selector

- FMA Specter suppressor with Acetech AR2000R module inside

Internal upgrades:

- EDGI Steel inner barrel 6,03mm/263mm

- Maple Leaf MR 60

- Maple Leaf omega nub

- Dynamic Precision Reinforced Aluminum Valve Blocker 

- G&P Marui MWS Aluminum Buffer V2

- G&P CNC Adjustable Power Nozzle Valve( Level 2 ) ( 4.0 )

- G&P Marui MWS Roller Bolt 

- Dynamic Precision Enhanced Sealing Buffer

Future upgrades:

- Ambi mag release

- Ambi charging handle

- Magpul BAD lever

- Magpul or SI Cobra trigger guard

- two stage trigger

And I have a question to G&P Nozzle Valve ( 4.0 ) users. What fps/joules you have on max settings? At least I think is max settings... A screw should be all inside the nozzle right? Because I have only ~310fps/1,24J on 0,28g it's just a little above 350fps(0,2g) using Nuprol 2.0 green gas. I was hoping that at least ~450fps/1,8J(0,2g) would be drawn ?. Maybe I messed up sth during re-assembling?

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MiniLuxy said:
Hello, finally my baby is finished... in about ~90%

External upgrades:

- FAB Defence GL-CORE S stock

- FAB Defence PTK-M front grip

- FAB Defence AGR-43 pistol grip

- HAO MK16 M-Lok 9.3" handguard

- Revanchist ambi fire selector

- FMA Specter suppressor with Acetech AR2000R module inside

Internal upgrades:

- EDGI Steel inner barrel 6,03mm/263mm

- Maple Leaf MR 60

- Maple Leaf omega nub

- Dynamic Precision Reinforced Aluminum Valve Blocker 

- G&P Marui MWS Aluminum Buffer V2

- G&P CNC Adjustable Power Nozzle Valve( Level 2 ) ( 4.0 )

- G&P Marui MWS Roller Bolt 

- Dynamic Precision Enhanced Sealing Buffer

Future upgrades:

- Ambi mag release

- Ambi charging handle

- Magpul BAD lever

- Magpul or SI Cobra trigger guard

- two stage trigger

And I have a question to G&P Nozzle Valve ( 4.0 ) users. What fps/joules you have on max settings? At least I think is max settings... A screw should be all inside the nozzle right? Because I have only ~310fps/1,24J on 0,28g it's just a little above 350fps(0,2g) using Nuprol 2.0 green gas. I was hoping that at least ~450fps/1,8J(0,2g) would be drawn ?. Maybe I messed up sth during re-assembling?

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Nothing to do with your question, but having spent all that money on producing a cracking gun, please, do yourself a favour and protect it by investing in a more robust sling.

 
C-Diddy said:
Nothing to do with your question, but having spent all that money on producing a cracking gun, please, do yourself a favour and protect it by investing in a more robust sling.
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Yeah, I planning in the future to change a sling to magpul or vtac. It's just temporary because my funds dried out... even over spent a little bit xD and this Viper sling was on discount and looked nice. It's not that bad but it's not excellent either. It should hold for a while

 
MiniLuxy said:
Yeah, I planning in the future to change a sling to magpul or vtac. It's just temporary because my funds dried out... even over spent a little bit xD and this Viper sling was on discount and looked nice. It's not that bad but it's not excellent either. It should hold for a while
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Viper will serve you well??

 
Davegolf said:
What FPS are you getting stock with propane?
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Couldn't tell you, after reading this thread before I bought the rifle I put an angry gun mpa nozzle in immediately, then a npas from r a tech and had FPS fluctuations ever since.

These are my findings with the setup at the bottom the piston is lightly greased with tech T salve and mags V1 & V2 are GG modded - I'm ideally after those 2 - 3 FPS variations that some people on here describe but mostly i'd like a set and forget (within reason ~20° c) on propane and geoff's 0.32g at 270fps so I don't have to mess on at chrono and have 4 ok shots and one that goes over wildly:-

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lfmKJtQm-qGtE-EJLlXXixfkon5uT6nDdt7BJOOOb1o/edit?usp=drivesdk

P.s. Dave - off for some testing at my range today as John at firesupport managed to hook me up with a complete new inner barrel and hop up set!!!

 
MiniLuxy said:
And I have a question to G&P Nozzle Valve ( 4.0 ) users. What fps/joules you have on max settings? At least I think is max settings... A screw should be all inside the nozzle right? Because I have only ~310fps/1,24J on 0,28g it's just a little above 350fps(0,2g) using Nuprol 2.0 green gas. I was hoping that at least ~450fps/1,8J(0,2g) would be drawn ?. Maybe I messed up sth during re-assembling?

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You are running the Dynamic Precision valve stopper not the one G&P supply with the 4.0 valve - this might be causing the issue?

Moving the stop point forward or back a fraction of a mm can have a BIG influence on the FPS.

 
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